This Opened My Eyes

[KansasTiger 3,365]

1 minute ago, aubiefifty said:

cole will be missed this basketball season. he could explain something where i understood most of it.

This site hasn't always dealt with disagreement well. Both WED and Cole had strong opinions and active beef with mods. Mods that like getting involved probably more than they should...

[DAG 35,455]

Unfortunately, this hire like his friend Gus was very polarizing among the Auburn fanbase. Was it worth it? We shall see. 

[aubiefifty 18,548]

i am the last person to say anything because i used to stay in trouble.

[aubiefifty 18,548]

rumor is the university band is learning this song.........grins

 

 

Edited Sunday at 04:53 PM by aubiefifty

[JMassie11 1,753]

1 hour ago, Auburn93 said:

We LOSE EITHER WAY. We lost this game because Robert Lewis dropped a routine pass. Yeah, we could get a little tougher and lose some players to injury like Cam Coleman and KLS. How would you like that? Or maybe the OL is left with Percy Lewis? Would it win another game? 

Is there EVIDENCE we are doing things differently than other teams in preseason or are we just grasping for straws to explain the losses? There have been some poor in game coaching decisions and some talent issues. That is it? I didn't see any poor coaching against MO. I saw an OL get blown up.

I'll add the 92 team was tough as hell and won five games. Thomas Bailey missed multiple games because in preseason his jaw was broken. 

So what about the 10-15 horrible throws that we’ve seen every game but the UGA game? Even in the 2 lone wins there’s consistently terrible passing by Thorne 

[Mims44 2,058]

1 hour ago, WillMunny said:

What happened to Cole?  He was interesting and full of good sports insight.  He was occasionally full of something else as well, but when he just stuck to talking sports, he was very insightful and interesting.

1 hour ago, aubiefifty said:

cole will be missed this basketball season. he could explain something where i understood most of it.

I wasn't sure what was up with him, but I do see the "Banned" thingy now on his profile.

I lost the HD with contact info for him years ago and never thought to get it back 😕 

[bishoptf 906]

3 hours ago, aubaseball said:

Look I get your point and I’m one that hates the consistent CHF bashing.  But if you didn’t see any poor coaching decisions yesterday, your head is in the sand.   I agree that the drop would be touchdown was a huge play, but there were two drives late in the fourth that was terrible play calling.   Both were three and outs and I believe Thorne ran the ball on three or four of the six plays for a grand total of about 4 yards.  

Yeah I know I have seen you post that it gets old in relation to CHF bashing but he really hasn't done anything to help turn the tide so it is what it is, this year is worse than last year and it was a doozy. I was ambivalent to the Freeze hire but he really has shown much in regards to game day coaching, least year I said the same thing and everyone stated it was that he was distracted recruiting and that it would be better this year. It hasn't and imho its been as bad as it was last year. So when folks say it will be better next year when we have a better QB (that we have no idea who that will be), I tend to be skeptical since his play calling is not the best at times.

[KansasTiger 3,365]

9 minutes ago, bishoptf said:

Yeah I know I have seen you post that it gets old in relation to CHF bashing but he really hasn't done anything to help turn the tide so it is what it is, this year is worse than last year and it was a doozy. I was ambivalent to the Freeze hire but he really has shown much in regards to game day coaching, least year I said the same thing and everyone stated it was that he was distracted recruiting and that it would be better this year. It hasn't and imho its been as bad as it was last year. So when folks say it will be better next year when we have a better QB (that we have no idea who that will be), I tend to be skeptical since his play calling is not the best at times.

His play calling, his talent evaluation, his culture setting, his leadership in the locker room, his leadership in practice (apparently), I honestly struggle to find an area where he excels at all besides recruiting. And that won't help if he sucks at the rest. Just look at other good recruiters who couldn't coach. No level of talent acquisition was going to turn their program around. Hugh's days here are numbered. 

Edited Sunday at 07:17 PM by KansasTiger

[James Howell 84]

4 hours ago, Auburn93 said:

We LOSE EITHER WAY. We lost this game because Robert Lewis dropped a routine pass. Yeah, we could get a little tougher and lose some players to injury like Cam Coleman and KLS. How would you like that? Or maybe the OL is left with Percy Lewis? Would it win another game? 

Is there EVIDENCE we are doing things differently than other teams in preseason or are we just grasping for straws to explain the losses? There have been some poor in game coaching decisions and some talent issues. That is it? I didn't see any poor coaching against MO. I saw an OL get blown up.

I'll add the 92 team was tough as hell and won five games. Thomas Bailey missed multiple games because in preseason his jaw was broken. 

If you say we lost because Robert Lewis dropped a pass then you can say that Mizzou won despite fumbling the ball into the endzone.  So if Mizzou doesn't fumble we still lose even if Lewis catches the ball.  

[aubaseball 2,922]

1 hour ago, bishoptf said:

Yeah I know I have seen you post that it gets old in relation to CHF bashing but he really hasn't done anything to help turn the tide so it is what it is, this year is worse than last year and it was a doozy. I was ambivalent to the Freeze hire but he really has shown much in regards to game day coaching, least year I said the same thing and everyone stated it was that he was distracted recruiting and that it would be better this year. It hasn't and imho its been as bad as it was last year. So when folks say it will be better next year when we have a better QB (that we have no idea who that will be), I tend to be skeptical since his play calling is not the best at times.

I agree.  Last year I believed that he truly let the coordinators run both sides of the ball, which I guess is good if you have the right ones.  This year I was hoping to see some changes in management and at times there has been.   Plays have been there at times and it’s been great to see.  There are plays that should have been made , but there is also the head scratchers that make you say “what the $$$$” are we doing.   I’m hoping for better days but I see a guy on the sidelines that appears to be so disgusted that nothing is going right and doesn’t have an answer (And his name is Hugh).  

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4 hours ago, KansasTiger said:

His play calling, his talent evaluation, his culture setting, his leadership in the locker room, his leadership in practice (apparently), I honestly struggle to find an area where he excels at all besides recruiting. And that won't help if he sucks at the rest. Just look at other good recruiters who couldn't coach. No level of talent acquisition was going to turn their program around. Hugh's days here are numbered. 

Agreed. I was originally supportive of hiring Freeze, began to have doubts early on last year, remained optimistic because of recruiting. I and am utterly done with him at this point. I see no way forward realistically for him here now. I fully expect the only win left on the schedule this year is LA Monroe, but wouldn't bet a half nickel on that one either making us 3-9 in year two. I just don't see how Hugh comes back from that to turn this program around.

If I understand correctly there is no buyout after year three, therefore I think Hugh has one more season here, and then he'll be gone. 

[AuMarine 1,412]

7 hours ago, JMassie11 said:

So what about the 10-15 horrible throws that we’ve seen every game but the UGA game? Even in the 2 lone wins there’s consistently terrible passing by Thorne 

I think the majority of the problems are with the offense. Namely the Qb and the head coach that continues to let him start.  

[TigerOne 1,334]

9 hours ago, Auburn93 said:

I haven't said it repeatedly, but I have said there are coaching issues. I'm just trying to take a more rational REALISTIC approach. If Robert Lewis catches a routine pass, Auburn wins. The irrational approach is not recognizing that and then doing things like comparing Harsin to Freeze. Freeze cares. Harsin didn't. 

Freeze saw Harsin get super rich without doing anything and realized he would say anything to get the Auburn job. He sold everyone and he only has to do what he does best sell sell sell. The coaching part is not his thing that’s the assistants job( that’s why he is surrounded by his buds and are comfortable with) . Unfortunately for him it hasn’t worked out like he planned. The soft practices where everything is perfect don’t carry over to the game . Thorne thinking this harder than practice. Even freeze now doesn’t really care if Auburn wins or not this year, he’s got another year with even better athletes. Only problem he hopes the assistants can coach them and put some type of team together. Freezes dedication to Thorne is admirable on the surface but you wonder what was promised or negotiated. Freeze needs hi contract reworked with penalty clauses and clear expectations.

[keesler 5,990]

9 hours ago, DAG said:

Ahh the classic members:

corchjay, Mcloofus, AUjeff, W.E.D, @cole

it would be interesting to hear their insight now. 

Where are they?  I’m going to REALLY miss Cole when basketball kicks in gear.  
 

Where’s WED and WDEWDE and Mikey?

[DAG 35,455]

3 minutes ago, keesler said:

Where are they?  I’m going to REALLY miss Cole when basketball kicks in gear.  
 

Where’s WED and WDEWDE and Mikey?

WED is banned. I haven’t seen WDEWDE in a while , but might be on the best. I don’t want to manifest what I fear might have happened with Mikey. 

[keesler 5,990]

10 hours ago, Auburn93 said:

. Freeze cares. Harsin didn't. 

Of course Freeze cares! This is the best coaching job he will ever have in his life.  No other program of any real worth would have him as a HC, certainly not a P5 program in the best conference in college football.  

[TeamZero77 2,008]

13 hours ago, aubiefifty said:

i swiped this from corch jay who used to be a member and i believe he gets most of this right. what say yee?

 

I started sounding the alarm in the early fall that we weren’t going live and was only going thud even in scrimmages. How can you possibly be ready to dominate if you don’t practice that way. The story has been told over and over you play like you practice, blaring country or rap music during practice doesn’t help a team focus or prepare it distracts from the attention to detail that can be taught even if you are not the person going through the rep.

I’m not crazy and know it’s not 1980 where you have 3 a days but the days you can hit you better fricking hit. You can’t practice scared you might get an injury, you can’t design you play calling and offense with a fear a player might transfer, good/great players want to be coached hard and coached to be better and if they don’t want that they won’t be worth a crap anyway.

So for the love, put the ball down and go 1v2’s for each side of the ball during the season every Tuesday. In the spring and fall go 1v1s every time you get a chance to hit.

This is the path to get better. It’s time to start coaching.

I'm not a Kirby Smart fan whatsoever but I've heard him talk about going hard and hitting in practice or should you go no-contact in practice to keep your players healthy. He said he let's his team hit in practice just like it's a game. He said that a few players may get injured but he'll take that trade off to have a good, tough, hard-hitting team. His teams practice as hard as they play in games. I may be old fashioned in my thinking but I still think that makes a team stronger.

[TeamZero77 2,008]

11 hours ago, aubiefifty said:

i agree and i believe they are all gun shocked so to speak. hell look at the turds. they threw to williams twenty times. you should not have to throw that much to one cat just saying. i do think part of coaching and college ball is changing so much folks at one time or another struggle with it. it is really odd. now we have prima donna's and snow flakes. football was different ten years ago. also i think parity is making play look worse than maybe it is?

I've always wanted to see more parity in college football because it makes the sport stronger but it also brings the blue bloods back to the rest of the pack, so to speak. I always felt that parity would help Auburn more than it would hurt us. Now it seems we've finally got more parity, especially in the SEC. All 16 SEC teams have a loss by week 8 and that's not been the case in forever. But what chaps my ass is every team is beating up on other teams except us and Mississippi State!! But Mississippi State gets a pass because they're on their 3rd HC in 3 years and the last 2 had never been head coaches. Mike Leach died unexpectedly after 2022 season and they gave the HC job to a very young Zach Arnett who had never been a HC. He got fired after 1 year and now they've got another 1st year HC in Jeff Lebby. They're headed in the right direction because they hung with Georgia 2 weeks ago and ended up losing by 10 points. Then yesterday they gave Texas A&M a fit. And they're doing this with a backup QB I believe. 

Then here we are with a 12th year HC, a DC in Durkin that's been a HC at Maryland, a 5th year QB that's started 4 years, some VERY talented but young players and we seem to choke every game away and we're literally going backwards from last year. Vandy is beating bigger teams, Napier has Florida playing alot better, Kentucky beat Ole Miss, etc. Everybody is beating everybody and we're looking like a freaking tire fire every week. 

And for some reason all these teams can play their backup QB's and beat other SEC teams. Florida has a true freshman QB now, Oklahoma has played 2 QB's, Texas played 2 QB's, Mississippi State as well. But for some reason, Freeze and Kent Austin can't prepare a QB to be better than Payton Thorne (according to Freeze himself) and that's VERY worrisome. 

Sorry for high-jacking your thread Fifty but it's unbelievable that coaches used to be on the hot seat at Auburn if they had a couple of 8 win seasons in a row and now we can't find a coach to get us past 6 wins a year.

[TeamZero77 2,008]

9 hours ago, KansasTiger said:

His play calling, his talent evaluation, his culture setting, his leadership in the locker room, his leadership in practice (apparently), I honestly struggle to find an area where he excels at all besides recruiting. And that won't help if he sucks at the rest. Just look at other good recruiters who couldn't coach. No level of talent acquisition was going to turn their program around. Hugh's days here are numbered. 

I mainly get tired of him taking credit when it goes good but deflecting when it goes bad. He probably blamed the escorts for answering his phone calls.

[Hopsing 647]

13 hours ago, TeamZero77 said:

I mainly get tired of him taking credit when it goes good but deflecting when it goes bad. He probably blamed the escorts for answering his phone calls.

[cbo 9,056]

On 10/20/2024 at 1:15 PM, Mims44 said:

I wasn't sure what was up with him, but I do see the "Banned" thingy now on his profile.

I lost the HD with contact info for him years ago and never thought to get it back 😕 

I’ve got his email if you want me to send it to you. 

[aubiefifty 18,548]

On 10/20/2024 at 11:48 AM, KansasTiger said:

This site hasn't always dealt with disagreement well. Both WED and Cole had strong opinions and active beef with mods. Mods that like getting involved probably more than they should...

ok i had WED mixed up with another cat..........

[aubiefifty 18,548]

3 minutes ago, cbo said:

I’ve got his email if you want me to send it to you. 

i will always think cole was baited a lot. a lot. i mean i literally watched cats follow him from thread to thread before. and i was just learning a tad about basketball.

[cbo 9,056]

2 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

i will always think cole was baited a lot. a lot. i mean i literally watched cats follow him from thread to thread before. and i was just learning a tad about basketball.

There were a handful of people that didn’t like him and would follow him around to argue. Not that he didn’t give it back but I don’t blame him. 

[aubiefifty 18,548]

On 10/20/2024 at 1:15 PM, Mims44 said:

I wasn't sure what was up with him, but I do see the "Banned" thingy now on his profile.

I lost the HD with contact info for him years ago and never thought to get it back 😕 

jesus would forgive cole. we should invite him back. he made some great comments on basketball.