Schiff Warns of Big Democratic Losses With Biden Atop Ticket

[AUFAN78 4,148]

4 minutes ago, wdefromtx said:

Serum of Satan….hadn’t heard that one before. 🤣

I thought that was my Wild Turkey 101. 

[SLAG-91 1,610]

2 minutes ago, AUFAN78 said:

I thought that was my Wild Turkey 101. 

Man, if I even smell WT101 now, I throw up in my mouth a little...the younger me got decimated by that stuff. 🤢

[wdefromtx 3,573]

Just now, SLAG-91 said:

Man, if I even smell WT101 now, I throw up in my mouth a little...the younger me got decimated by that stuff. 🤢

Plain Jane Jack Daniel’s decimated me when I was younger. 

[AU9377 5,995]

We now know with certainty that the vaccine is one of the safest ever developed.  We know that it has saved millions of lives.  Even so, some people want to color it in a negative light.  If one thing is certain it is this... If something more deadly than Covid ever attacks this country, a good portion of the population will just accept death rather than trust their doctor.  These same people will put things in their body every day while having no idea of the contents.

Phizer said it best ..... You trust us with your penis. You should trust us with the vaccine.

[AUFAN78 4,148]

2 minutes ago, SLAG-91 said:

Man, if I even smell WT101 now, I throw up in my mouth a little...the younger me got decimated by that stuff. 🤢

I basically get it free, so kind of hard to turn down. But I hear what you're saying.

[wdefromtx 3,573]

9 minutes ago, AUFAN78 said:

The sad thing is even after all the lies are debunked they continue to repeat them. I guess when it's all you've got you just stick with it. Sadly, proves the adage "you can't fix stupid." 

I don’t know if is stupidity or just being brainwashed. 

[wdefromtx 3,573]

4 minutes ago, AU9377 said:

We now know with certainty that the vaccine is one of the safest ever developed.  We know that it has saved millions of lives.  Even so, some people want to color it in a negative light.  If one thing is certain it is this... If something more deadly than Covid ever attacks this country, a good portion of the population will just accept death rather than trust their doctor.  These same people will put things in their body every day while having no idea of the contents.

Phizer said it best ..... You trust us with your penis. You should trust us with the vaccine.

I did and that gave me a migraine and everything had a blue tint to it. So there’s that…..and thankfully Cialis. 

[AUFAN78 4,148]

3 minutes ago, wdefromtx said:

I don’t know if is stupidity or just being brainwashed. 

Consuming radical opinion does indeed lead to brainwashing, so you're onto something for sure. But having.the resources readily available to learn the truth and ignoring them is stupidity. 

[wdefromtx 3,573]

Just now, AUFAN78 said:

Consuming radical opinion does indeed lead to brainwashing, so you're onto something for sure. But having.the resources readily available to learn the truth and ignoring them is stupidity. 

Very true.

[auburnatl1 6,108]

11 minutes ago, AUFAN78 said:

The sad thing is even after all the lies are debunked they continue to repeat them. I guess when it's all you've got you just stick with it. Sadly, proves the adage "you can't fix stupid." 

Bleach instead of disinfectant … yep, all those msm lies have been analytically and surgically “debunked” and are crashing in flames now. 

[SLAG-91 1,610]

Gotta say...

Little bit of everything...politics, Covid, booze, erectile enhancement products.

[AUFAN78 4,148]

18 minutes ago, auburnatl1 said:

Bleach instead of disinfectant … yep, all those msm lies have been analytically and surgically “debunked” and are crashing in flames now. 

Well not really, stupid people still bring it up. 

[auburnatl1 6,108]

9 minutes ago, AUFAN78 said:

Well not really, stupid people still bring it up. 

Respectfully, I was being sarcastic.  The bleach vs disinfectant  debate aside (bear with me, im kinda stupid) - have you ever watched that entire press conf? It's on YouTube and a Trump classic.

[AUFAN78 4,148]

1 minute ago, auburnatl1 said:

Respectfully, I was being sarcastic.  The bleach vs disinfectant  debate aside (bear with me, im kinda stupid) - have you ever watched that entire press conf? It's on YouTube and a Trump classic.

I thought that was obvious. Of course, I've seen it. I saw it live. Went straight to Walmart and got a syringe and bleach. 

[wdefromtx 3,573]

Just now, auburnatl1 said:

Respectfully, I was being sarcastic.  The bleach vs disinfectant  debate aside (bear with me, im kinda stupid) - have you ever watched that entire press conf? It's on YouTube and a Trump classic.

I’ve watched it and it’s a train wreck. It’s him trying to think out loud and sound smart. His thoughts were all over the place. But, read the transcript. You can tell he’s trying describe something to put in the body that kills the virus fast like a disinfectant. It evolved from ultra violet light being a disinfectant. Maybe he wants us to use light to nuke the virus out. 

[wdefromtx 3,573]

2 minutes ago, AUFAN78 said:

I thought that was obvious. Of course, I've seen it. I saw it live. Went straight to Walmart and got a syringe and bleach. 

Should’ve just went with the Wild Turkey. 

[Leftfield 3,347]

2 hours ago, wdefromtx said:

I would have to go find exact clips of Fauci, but it is just easier to link the process from the FDA. 

Emergency Use Authorization for Vaccines Explained | FDA

FDA expects vaccine manufacturers to include in their EUA requests a plan for active follow-up for safety, including deaths, hospitalizations, and other serious or clinically significant adverse events, among individuals who receive the vaccine under an EUA, to inform ongoing benefit-risk determinations to support continuation of the EUA.

FDA also expects manufacturers who receive an EUA to continue their clinical trials to obtain additional safety and effectiveness information and pursue licensure (approval).

 

They then go on to continuous monitoring like they do for other vaccines. 

So, yeah they tried to do as good as possible to test but you can only do things so fast. 

The J and J vaccine is an example of things going wrong. If you recall they paused use, then limited it's use to people that had no other alternative because of potential blood clots. Then they eventually said it is not really effective. Then the government quit buying it for stockpile and eventually got its EUA revoked. I think J and J tried to get the FDA to end the EUA for it on the down low to save face. Regardless, do you think that vaccine gets approved if it goes through normal process? 

Not sure why people don't understand why people would be skeptical. Look at all the drugs that make it through and get approval under normal circumstances that never should have. Or FDA having major regulatory issues....(looking at you Purdue Pharma.) 

You do need a crazy conspiracy theory to be skeptical. History speaks for itself.

For the J&J vaccine, I absolutely do think it makes it through to approval under the normal process. 

I can understand concerns when something is done differently, and people should ask questions and not go on blind faith, but considering the mortality rates of the two parties, I think it's pretty clear that this was a political issue more than a natural skepticism issue.

[wdefromtx 3,573]

2 minutes ago, Leftfield said:

For the J&J vaccine, I absolutely do think it makes it through to approval under the normal process. 

I can understand concerns when something is done differently, and people should ask questions and not go on blind faith, but considering the mortality rates of the two parties, I think it's pretty clear that this was a political issue more than a natural skepticism issue.

IMO natural skepticism and human behavior morphed into a political issue. 
 

Same with masks, they work, no they don’t work…etc. 

It also goes back to parenting 101. Sometimes the person that’s correct has to back off and let the other come to the same conclusion. The authoritarian approach and downright condemnation for different opinions only brings more resistance. That’s more of a human behavior thing than political. 

[Leftfield 3,347]

6 hours ago, wdefromtx said:

It also goes back to parenting 101. Sometimes the person that’s correct has to back off and let the other come to the same conclusion. The authoritarian approach and downright condemnation for different opinions only brings more resistance. That’s more of a human behavior thing than political. 

That may be, but when you're talking about saving people's lives in the face of a new illness that you know is going to mutate the more it spreads, it's difficult to wait on people to come around, particularly when you know some of them will never agree.

[homersapien 12,215]

11 hours ago, wdefromtx said:

Very true.

You and 78 need to get a room..... 

[homersapien 12,215]

12 hours ago, AUFAN78 said:

Fact-check: Did Trump tell people to drink bleach to kill the coronavirus?

Jessica Calefati

PolitiFact.com

Joe Biden: On COVID-19, Donald Trump said that “maybe if you drank bleach you may be okay.”

PolitiFact’s ruling: Mostly False.

Here’s why: Joe Biden criticized President Donald Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic, saying during a speech on the economy that Trump had given up trying to manage a crisis he’s ill equipped to solve.

"And when it comes to COVID-19, after months of doing nothing, other than predicting the virus would disappear, or maybe if you drank bleach you may be okay, Trump has simply given up," said Biden, who delivered his remarks at a metalworks factory near his hometown of Scranton on Thursday.

Trump spoke about the role he thought disinfectants could play in tackling an infection caused by the virus during a now infamous April 23 briefing. But he didn’t say people should drink bleach.

His comments came after William Bryan, the undersecretary for science and technology at the Department of Homeland Security, presented a study that found sun exposure and cleaning agents like bleach can kill the virus when it lingers on surfaces.

Trump remarked on the effectiveness of those methods and wondered if they could help address infections in the human body.

Here are his full comments:

"A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?"

He continued.

"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."

Later, Trump clarified his comments after a reporter asked Bryan whether disinfectants could actually be injected into COVID-19 patients.

"It wouldn’t be through injections, almost a cleaning and sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work, but it certainly has a big effect if it’s on a stationary object."

Trump did not explicitly recommend ingesting a disinfectant like bleach. Nevertheless, his remarks led some companies and state agencies to issue warnings about ingesting disinfectants. The maker of Lysol said in a statement that "under no circumstance" should its products be used in the human body.

The Biden campaign did not respond to a request for comment about what evidence the former vice president relied on when he claimed the president suggested Americans drink bleach to combat the virus.

Our ruling

Biden said Trump said drinking bleach could help fight the coronavirus. Trump did not specifically recommend ingesting disinfectants, but he did express interest in exploring whether disinfectants could be applied to the site of a the coronavirus infection inside the body, such as the lungs. We rate Biden’s claim Mostly False.

Trump suggested disinfectants could possibly be used internally.  That's the idiocy.

Whether of not it is drunk (enteral) or injected (parenteral) is totally moot. 

[homersapien 12,215]

Trump didn't (specifically) say "drink"!!!

So what?  He did suggest using disinfectants internally. There are only two ways to apply a disinfectant internally: eat/drink it or inject it. 

Some people logically concluded he must have meant drinking.  But you could just as easily conclude he meant injecting. 

Simply asking or bringing it up not only reveals Trump's abject scientific literacy, but shows his hubris in thinking he had a novel idea that hadn't occurred to anyone else.

 

 

 

Edited July 19 by homersapien

[auburnatl1 6,108]

21 minutes ago, homersapien said:

Trump didn't (specifically) say "drink"!!!

So what?  He did suggest using disinfectants internally. There are only two ways to apply a disinfectant internally: eat/drink it or inject it. 

Some people logically concluded he must have meant drinking.  But you could just as easily conclude he meant injecting. 

Simply asking or bringing it up not only reveals Trump's abject scientific literacy, but shows his hubris in thinking he had a novel idea that hadn't occurred to anyone else.

 

 

 

Though it didn’t get the same attention, his idea of using ultraviolet light…  internally was a gem. May not have helped with Covid but it could ultimately cure cancer, the common cold, and the need for daily flossing.

[AUFAN78 4,148]

1 hour ago, homersapien said:

Trump suggested disinfectants could possibly be used internally.  That's the idiocy.

Whether of not it is drunk (enteral) or injected (parenteral) is totally moot. 

You're not going to weasel out of lies that easy. 

You've long suggested he told us to ingest bleach. It was never true.

Edited July 19 by AUFAN78

[homersapien 12,215]

13 minutes ago, AUFAN78 said:

You're not going to weasel out of lies that easy. 

You've long suggested he told us to ingest bleach. It was never true.

First while I can't guarantee it, I don't recall ever saying that. 

I originally read the transcript of his remarks very carefully.  I knew the word "drink" wasn't in it. And I knew the media was running with "drinking bleach" (disinfectant).  But it could have just a easily and justifiably been injecting bleach (disinfectant).

So I've tried to be careful to not use the word drink, instead referring to what he actually did say - the internal application of a disinfectant. But as I said, there are only two ways to do that:  eat/drink it, or inject it.  So logically one can assume he was referring one or both.

You can cling to your pedantic argument all you want, but it is moot to the point. 

(So get busy and locate a post where I said Trump recommended we "drink bleach".  While you're at it, show me where I've lied about anything substantive on this subject, and stop lying yourself.)