Former President Trump Shot, Two Dead, at Rally in Pennsylvania

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ABC News reported that Crooks was rejected from his high school’s rifle club and asked not to return. Former high school classmate Jameson Myers claimed, “he was asked not to come back because how bad of a shot he was. It was considered, like dangerous.”

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3 hours ago, homersapien said:

Easy:

Trump’s Rhetoric of Blood

From the start of Trump’s political career, I was alarmed. To be sure, he had dabbled in public racism earlier, but it was when he announced his candidacy in 2015, and made his first campaign speech, that I became very concerned. As described in this talk that I gave in Mexico in 2019 (and in other publications and presentations), the style of Trump’s rhetoric—the precise sequence of emotionally-loaded themes—seemed to be a page taken right out of the Nazi playbook.

To be clear, I never thought that Trump was directly influenced by Nazi speech. It seemed much more likely, I thought, that, like Hitler himself, Trump had a gut instinct for the kind of language that plays on the public’s deepest fears, resentments, and aspirations. I held onto this assessment even when I learned that Trump’s former spouse Ivanka told her lawyer that he kept a book of Hitler’s speeches near his bed.

But now I’m not so sure….

I’m not so sure because the former president used expressions in recent speeches that are specifically and unmistakably redolent of Nazi rhetoric.

In a video interview posted on the conservative website National Pulse on September 27, Trump had this to say about undocumented immigrants entering the United States:

“Nobody has any idea where these people are coming from, and we know they come from prisons. We know they come from mental institutions and insane asylums. We know they’re terrorists. Nobody has ever seen anything like we’re witnessing right now. It is a very sad thing for our country. It’s poisoning the blood of our country. It’s so bad, and people are coming in with disease. People are coming in with every possible thing that you could have (emphasis added).”

A week later, MSNBC’s Mehdi Hasan remarked on X that Trump’s reference to blood poisoning was a “straight-up white supremacist/neo-Nazi talking point.” Hasan was right.

The theme of racial blood-poisoning¹, and the idea that racial outsiders are vectors of deadly, contagious disease, was a mainstay of Nazi (and neo-Nazi) discourse.

Hitler described the mixing of racially pure Germans with non-Germans as a “poisoning.” The Jew, he wrote in Mein Kampf, “poisons the blood of others” and described them as “international poisoners”and expressed the view, as summarized by Felicity Rash in her book The Language of Violence: Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf, that “it was inevitable that these ‘lower’ beings would try to poison the ‘higher’ Aryans or to develop a parasitic dependency upon them.” According to Hitler, this poses an existential threat because “All great cultures of the past perished only because the originally creative race died out from blood poisoning.” Because blood-poisoning caused Germany to become diseased at the instigation of Jews, and the Marxists under their control, Hitler characterized Jews and Marxists as a “plague” or “epidemic” that is “worse than the Black Death of olden times.”

In fact, we can find such references in My New Order—the book that Trump allegedly kept near his bedside.

“Insofar as we devote ourselves to the care of our own blood—that blood which has been entrusted to us by destiny—we are at the same time doing our best to safeguard other peoples from diseases that spring from race to race, from people to people.”

On the same day that the National Pulse interview was aired, Trump gave a speech in Michigan, near Detroit, courting the political favor of non-union automobile manufacturing workers. The speech is loaded with fascist-style rhetoric. He described Joe Biden as a “wretched old vulture trying to finish off his prey.” On the face of it, this was a peculiar image, as vultures are scavengers, not predators, but it was rhetorically well-chosen, combining denigration of Biden’s age with a bird associated with death, disgust, and decay. “Under Biden,” Trump claimed, “instead of economic nationalism you have ultra-left-wing globalism.” The term “globalists” (and it’s cognate “globalism”) is a far-right dog-whistle referring to the supposed international Jewish conspiracy. It is a semantic descendant of the Nazis’ term “rootless cosmopolitans” which targeted Jews and their Marxist fellow travelers.

The vulture, Biden, is also a vampire who has “backed every single blood-sucking attack on US auto workers.” References to vampirism and parasitism—ultimately derived from the Medieval conspiracy theory that Jewish people consumed the blood of Christian children² —were standard Nazi rhetorical fare. As Rash summarizes, when Hitler wrote about Jews,

Blood sucking creatures, parasites, and microscopic organisms appear in a number of guises, and are obviously intended to provoke revulsion in the reader….Hitler readily adopted images of parasitism, claiming that the Jewish parasite had to be destroyed if the host were too survive.

After his speech in Michigan, Trump granted an interview to Newsmax during which, when asked about migrants crossing our border from Mexico, he responded that Democrats are “Marxists, communists, fascists” who are allowing border crossings that are “killing our country, they’re destroying the blood of our country.” Again, the poisoning and destruction of blood is a distinctively Nazi trope.

I am not suggesting that Trump is a Nazi, or that he embraces an anti-Semitic ideology. Rather, I am suggesting that in light of his specific choice of imagery, the claim that he is influenced by Nazi rhetoric should not be dismissed out of hand.

David Livingstone Smith is Professor of Philosophy at the University of New England in Maine. He has published nine books, including On Inhumanity and Less Than Human, which won the Anisfield-Wolf Book Award for contributions to the understanding of racism and appreciation of diversity. This post originally appeared on his Substack.

1. See Chapter Three of my book Making Monsters: The Uncanny Power of Dehumanization for a discussion of the role of “blood” in racial discourse. ↩︎
2. See, for example, Masha Teter’s Blood Libel: On the Trail of an Antisemitic Myth. ↩︎

 

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[IronMan70 3,321]

2 hours ago, TexasTiger said:

Interesting, but there’s another detail folks seem to be forgetting:

I would doubt very much that people are forgetting him. But since you didn't mention his name, I'll do it for you. In addition to being a fire fighter, Corey Comperatore loved his family, was a good family man, father, Christian and died a hero protecting his family from the assassin.

US NEWS Firefighters remember Corey Comperatore, chief killed at Pa. Trump rally: ‘One of them guys you wanted to go into a fire with’

Firefighters remember Corey Comperatore, chief killed at Pennsylvania Trump rally (nypost.com)

Edited July 14 by IronMan70

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4 hours ago, I_M4_AU said:

Here is an interview that I believe does not serve your stereotype:

 

 

 

As I said, NOT ALL ARE... why is that so hard?   You have to admit that it is comedy gold to listen to people in line for some of tose rallies being interviewed.  If you haven't watched any, just go to Youtube and feast ...

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2 hours ago, GoAU said:

Completely unacceptable.  However comparing someone in the crowd to what the actual politicians are saying isn’t exactly the same now is it?

It was an act that has no place in American politics, but we don't have to now pretend that the rhetoric concerning violence  wasn't being pushed by Trump's campaign.  That would be dishonest at best.

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13 minutes ago, IronMan70 said:

I doubt very much that people are forgetting him. In addition to being a fire fighter, he loved his family, was a good family man, father, Christian and died a hero protecting his family from the assassin. 

He has not been forgotten

 

Trump campaign GoFundMe for rally shooting victims raises more than $2M

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4771666-trump-campaign-gofundme-for-rally-shooting-victims-raises-more-than-2-million/mlite/?nxs-test=mlite

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 14 by JMWATS

[IronMan70 3,321]

5 minutes ago, JMWATS said:

He has not been forgotten

 

Trump campaign GoFundMe for rally shooting victims raises more than $2M

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4771666-trump-campaign-gofundme-for-rally-shooting-victims-raises-more-than-2-million/mlite/?nxs-test=mlite

 

 

No doubt about it. One of the first things Trump did was create that fund.

[homersapien 12,172]

4 hours ago, Cardin Drake said:

Well, that's all well and good but I was talking about time. 

Great comeback!

Edited July 15 by homersapien

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4 hours ago, IronMan70 said:

 

Photo of assassin just before he fired the shots.

 

 

 

How the turn of the head saved Trump.

The flight time of the bullet was 0.34 of a second.

God is in the details..

 

 

Hell yeah! Cause Stone Cold said so!!!!

[homersapien 12,172]

2 hours ago, E'Town4Bama said:

Where did you copy and paste this from?

Sorry, I am usually pretty good in attribution. Forgot this time.

https://dangerousspeech.org/tag/donald-trump/

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4 hours ago, TexasTiger said:

Interesting, but there’s another detail folks seem to be forgetting:

One man fights for 'Merica and survives, one man fights for his family and saves them. The miracle is up to God...not you

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2 hours ago, Cardin Drake said:

 

There's tiers of protection that were in place. The level of distance the shooter was in was the local LEO's. Less than 300 yards.

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On 7/13/2024 at 10:04 PM, GoAU said:

... there’s only been one party calling their opponents Nazis, fascists, and a “threat to democracy” for the last 7-8 years….

The other party just mentions stupid policy, Alzheimer’s, and corruption.  

I've been here on AUF for 12 years. This is among the top 3 most HILARIOUS posts I've ever come across on our forum. Truly, among the most hilarious anywhere, any year, here at AUF.

Thank you for the huge belly laugh! I don't need emoji. Tears were running, body was hurting, it was that funny.

 

Edited July 15 by AURex

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Look, all y'all Dem supporters don't have a grasp on reality since the main info y'all trust is the main stream media. There's been a huge decline of stability, credibility, reality, and sincerity in this country since the main stream media couldn't handle Trump winning in 2016. You know puppet man "Poopy Pants Joe" got interjected into the oval office by false balloting. He did NOT win by 80+ million votes! Merica knows that!

I once was a Dem. My father, the biggest Southern Dem in the family, told me to vote for even a monkey if it ran on the Democratic ticket. Well ol' dad is full of s#it. Since Obammer took office, I've learned to look at what the person actually does...not what people or the media says they've done. 

Trump is not Hitler! Hitler is Hitler, look at the facts of what he did. Trump is Trump, look at what he's done and what he's gonna do for our country. There's no comparison you idiots! 

We all need: lower gas prices, more affordable housing, lower grocery bills, more affordable rent, lower interest rates, fewer illegal alien crimes due to the deportation that's about to take place ... which may include YOU and/or one of your family members NOT GETTING MURDERED in the near future. 

Y'all better be thankful Trump is still alive and able to run this country. God's hands are on him. 

Stop listening to Whoopie and the crap show on MSNBC! 

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35 minutes ago, AURex said:

I've been here on AUF for 12 years. This is among the top 3 most HILARIOUS posts I've ever come across on our forum. Truly, among the most hilarious anywhere, any year, here at AUF.

Thank you for the huge belly laugh! I don't need emoji. Tears were running, body was hurting, it was that funny.

 

Really?  Read the next post and tell me if that tops what you've just read.

[TexasTiger 14,070]

8 hours ago, HAYinthemiddleoftheBARN said:

One man fights for 'Merica and survives, one man fights for his family and saves them. The miracle is up to God...not you

Cuz God’s an American, dammit! A right winger at that! Thanks for clarifying!

[TexasTiger 14,070]

6 hours ago, HAYinthemiddleoftheBARN said:

Look, all y'all Dem supporters don't have a grasp on reality since the main info y'all trust is the main stream media. There's been a huge decline of stability, credibility, reality, and sincerity in this country since the main stream media couldn't handle Trump winning in 2016. You know puppet man "Poopy Pants Joe" got interjected into the oval office by false balloting. He did NOT win by 80+ million votes! Merica knows that!

I once was a Dem. My father, the biggest Southern Dem in the family, told me to vote for even a monkey if it ran on the Democratic ticket. Well ol' dad is full of s#it. Since Obammer took office, I've learned to look at what the person actually does...not what people or the media says they've done. 

Trump is not Hitler! Hitler is Hitler, look at the facts of what he did. Trump is Trump, look at what he's done and what he's gonna do for our country. There's no comparison you idiots! 

We all need: lower gas prices, more affordable housing, lower grocery bills, more affordable rent, lower interest rates, fewer illegal alien crimes due to the deportation that's about to take place ... which may include YOU and/or one of your family members NOT GETTING MURDERED in the near future. 

Y'all better be thankful Trump is still alive and able to run this country. God's hands are on him. 

Stop listening to Whoopie and the crap show on MSNBC! 

You don’t post here much so I can’t tell- it’s hard these days— parody account?

[TexasTiger 14,070]

10 hours ago, IronMan70 said:

No doubt about it. One of the first things Trump did was create that fund.

Couldn’t he have just funded it? What’s a couple of million to a guy who claims to be mega rich?

[TexasTiger 14,070]

10 hours ago, AU9377 said:

It was an act that has no place in American politics, but we don't have to now pretend that the rhetoric concerning violence  wasn't being pushed by Trump's campaign.  That would be dishonest at best.

 

[Cardin Drake 2,074]

1 hour ago, TexasTiger said:

 

And here we are at last.  Trump just got what he had coming to him. SMH. 

[I_M4_AU 8,888]

 

 

[I_M4_AU 8,888]

 

 

Under the new rules applied to Trump by the Biden/Democrats over January 6, we now must have a special counsel to criminally investigate Biden and any other politician, media figure, Democratic Party operative, etc who took any action or made any statement that could have incited violence against Trump. #J13

[TexasTiger 14,070]

2 hours ago, Cardin Drake said:

And here we are at last.  Trump just got what he had coming to him. SMH. 

Of course, you can’t read and comprehend. Like your buddies.

[AU9377 5,922]

12 hours ago, HAYinthemiddleoftheBARN said:

Look, all y'all Dem supporters don't have a grasp on reality since the main info y'all trust is the main stream media. There's been a huge decline of stability, credibility, reality, and sincerity in this country since the main stream media couldn't handle Trump winning in 2016. You know puppet man "Poopy Pants Joe" got interjected into the oval office by false balloting. He did NOT win by 80+ million votes! Merica knows that!

I once was a Dem. My father, the biggest Southern Dem in the family, told me to vote for even a monkey if it ran on the Democratic ticket. Well ol' dad is full of s#it. Since Obammer took office, I've learned to look at what the person actually does...not what people or the media says they've done. 

Trump is not Hitler! Hitler is Hitler, look at the facts of what he did. Trump is Trump, look at what he's done and what he's gonna do for our country. There's no comparison you idiots! 

We all need: lower gas prices, more affordable housing, lower grocery bills, more affordable rent, lower interest rates, fewer illegal alien crimes due to the deportation that's about to take place ... which may include YOU and/or one of your family members NOT GETTING MURDERED in the near future. 

Y'all better be thankful Trump is still alive and able to run this country. God's hands are on him. 

Stop listening to Whoopie and the crap show on MSNBC! 

You prefer Youtube snippets?  Or the opinons of Joe down the street?