WillMunny 1,651 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) Live updates: Trump injured, but 'fine' after shooting at rally; alleged shooter and attendee reported dead (yahoo.com) Apparently, Trump was only grazed, but a bystander and the shooter were killed. Edited July 14 by WillMunny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillMunny 1,651 Posted July 14 Author Share Posted July 14 I wonder if the bystander was killed by the shooter, or by the Secret Service when they took out the shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnatl1 6,384 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 The line between civilization and the mob is a fine one. Then throw in people that are mentally ill. IMO We’re on a razors edge. All parties need to cool the friggin bad ass wannabe language and get back to some semblance of basic democratic civility . We’re letting the crazy genie out of the bottle. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFightingSoldiers 699 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 43 minutes ago, WillMunny said: I wonder if the bystander was killed by the shooter, or by the Secret Service when they took out the shooter. It looks like the bystander was hit by the bullet that grazed Trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleDegreeTiger 247 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Abc report that I am watching is saying that shooter is dead, one bystander dead, and two bystanders critically injured. Shooter fired about 8 shots, 2 to 300 yards away from a rooftop, and with a rifle. Feel terrible for the families involved. Innocents killed exercising their right to support a candidate. So tired of the left, the right, and how both sides bickering and pettiness if ******* up the country for the rest of us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillMunny 1,651 Posted July 14 Author Share Posted July 14 8 minutes ago, TripleDegreeTiger said: Abc report that I am watching is saying that shooter is dead, one bystander dead, and two bystanders critically injured. Shooter fired about 8 shots, 2 to 300 yards away from a rooftop, and with a rifle. Feel terrible for the families involved. Innocents killed exercising their right to support a candidate. So tired of the left, the right, and how both sides bickering and pettiness if ******* up the country for the rest of us. Wow, the shooter was 200-300 yards away on a rooftop, and was killed. Secret Service must have been deployed all over, and disposed of the shooter like professionals. Glad the shooter pulled left. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleDegreeTiger 247 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Quote The Secret Service, in a statement, said that a shooter "fired multiple shots toward the stage from an elevated position outside of the rally venue" after which agents "neutralized the shooter, who is now deceased." The shooter fired as many as eight rounds from an AR-style rifle while perched on a rooftop adjacent to the venue and was 200-300 yards away at the time of the shooting, law enforcement sources told ABC News One spectator was killed and two others critically injured, the Secret Service said in a statement. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-rushed-off-stage-disturbance-pennsylvania-rally/story?id=111913361 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnatl1 6,384 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 10 minutes ago, TripleDegreeTiger said: Abc report that I am watching is saying that shooter is dead, one bystander dead, and two bystanders critically injured. Shooter fired about 8 shots, 2 to 300 yards away from a rooftop, and with a rifle. Feel terrible for the families involved. Innocents killed exercising their right to support a candidate. So tired of the left, the right, and how both sides bickering and pettiness if ******* up the country for the rest of us. Politics have slowly become the political extreme’s Iron bowl. It’s not a disagreement or even a rivalry - for some it’s mutated into true hatred (even in the religious threads you see it - which is kinda a paradox). Not Russia, not China - Americans of the other party. And then, inevitably, the real political extremists (which imo are unstable) fire up and start poisoning oaks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 35,380 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Ridiculous. I thought this was a joke at first at dinner. And how in 2024 does someone have a chance to shoot a particularly figure at an elevated position? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleDegreeTiger 247 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 3 minutes ago, DAG said: Ridiculous. I thought this was a joke at first at dinner. And how in 2024 does someone have a chance to shoot a particularly figure at an elevated position? No kidding man. This is a huge failure in security. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 8,705 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 3 minutes ago, DAG said: Ridiculous. I thought this was a joke at first at dinner. And how in 2024 does someone have a chance to shoot a particularly figure at an elevated position? Great question. Hard to believe. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoAU 1,696 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 hour ago, auburnatl1 said: The line between civilization and the mob is a fine one. Then throw in people that are mentally ill. IMO We’re on a razors edge. All parties need to cool the friggin bad ass wannabe language and get back to some semblance of basic democratic civility . We’re letting the crazy genie out of the bottle. Dont disagree, but there’s only been one party calling their opponents Nazis, fascists, and a “threat to democracy” for the last 7-8 years…. The other party just mentions stupid policy, Alzheimer’s, and corruption. 4 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 12,353 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Just now, GoAU said: Dont disagree, but there’s only been one party calling their opponents Nazis, fascists, and a “threat to democracy” for the last 7-8 years…. The other party just mentions stupid policy, Alzheimer’s, and corruption. Seriously?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillMunny 1,651 Posted July 14 Author Share Posted July 14 3 minutes ago, DAG said: Ridiculous. I thought this was a joke at first at dinner. And how in 2024 does someone have a chance to shoot a particularly figure at an elevated position? I remember reading about party convention locales being chosen in part based upon ease of defense against possible attacks. Some venues are more difficult to defend than others. Rally locations are probably chosen with less care. This one may have given the shooter an opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleDegreeTiger 247 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 3 minutes ago, auburnatl1 said: Politics have slowly become the political extreme’s Iron bowl. It’s not a disagreement or even a rivalry - for some it’s mutated into true hatred (even in the religious threads you see it - which is kinda a paradox). Not Russia, not China - Americans of the other party. And then, inevitably, the real political extremists (which imo are unstable) fire up and start poisoning oaks. So true. See it on this board almost every day. Family is Chicago says there is alot of concern with the Democratic convention and the protests involving Palistine. They are vetting permits left and right for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 35,380 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Just now, WillMunny said: I remember reading about party convention locales being chosen in part based upon ease of defense against possible attacks. Some venues are more difficult to defend than others. Rally locations are probably chosen with less care. This one may have given the shooter an opportunity. It sounds like it. It just is quite surprising. It wasn’t in the perimeter but in an open area where Trump is speaking though, I am surprised there is not drones, snipers, consistent clear out, etc. This could’ve been a terrible misfortune. Questions will certainly be asked about security . And it should be irrelevant if you are red, blue , yellow, whatever. This should not be occurring…I am just replaying so many assassination attempts prior to me being born. I will say kudos for the response time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj3jordan 2,172 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 14 minutes ago, homersapien said: Seriously?? Yes homer. Seriously. A fringe liberal listening to you and your vile hyperbolic accusations, diagnoses, and predictions, could easily be pushed over the edge to assassination. Exactly what you have constantly spouted for 7 years is the reason this happens. Own it homer. It is yours. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleDegreeTiger 247 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 29 minutes ago, TripleDegreeTiger said: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-rushed-off-stage-disturbance-pennsylvania-rally/story?id=111913361 They are saying single shooter, male, Secret Service took him out with a counter sniper. They are working on the identity of the individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 12,353 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) 4 minutes ago, jj3jordan said: Yes homer. Seriously. A fringe liberal listening to you and your vile hyperbolic accusations, diagnoses, and predictions, could easily be pushed over the edge to assassination. Exactly what you have constantly spouted for 7 years is the reason this happens. Own it homer. It is yours. You are crazy. Jan. 6 crazy. As for what I "spouted" prior to then, you'll have to refresh me. But apparently, I was right on, as Jan. 6 proved. Edited July 14 by homersapien 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj3jordan 2,172 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 3 minutes ago, homersapien said: You are crazy. Jan. 6 crazy. As for what I "spouted" prior to then, you'll have to refresh me. But apparently, I was right on, as Jan. 6 proved. No homer. You are crazy if you have forgotten practically every post you have made regarding Trump in the last 7 years. I remember what you have said over and over. Denying it now is flat cowardice. You are pathetically spineless. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillMunny 1,651 Posted July 14 Author Share Posted July 14 A witness described the shooter as having "his head blown off" by Secret Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoAU 1,696 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 hour ago, homersapien said: Seriously?? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 4,174 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 3 hours ago, auburnatl1 said: The line between civilization and the mob is a fine one. Then throw in people that are mentally ill. IMO We’re on a razors edge. All parties need to cool the friggin bad ass wannabe language and get back to some semblance of basic democratic civility . We’re letting the crazy genie out of the bottle. The violent rhetoric from the media, politicians, social media, and even forums such as this needs to stop. There are consequences to such ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 4,174 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 hour ago, WillMunny said: I remember reading about party convention locales being chosen in part based upon ease of defense against possible attacks. Some venues are more difficult to defend than others. Rally locations are probably chosen with less care. This one may have given the shooter an opportunity. Line-of-site opportunities are typically disabled for an event of this nature. This was a failure. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMan70 3,322 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) How the sniper team that took him out didn't spot the shooter before he took the shots is a major unknown at this time. They had the higher position. There are also reports that some people saw the shooter crawling around up there and reported it to cops/SS up to 5 minutes before hand. Media has some of those people on video interviews. Obviously facts are developing by the hour. Edit: 7/14/24 add on to original post. Also an OP to page 4. Photo of attempted assassin just before he fired the shots. How the turn of the head saved Trump. The flight time of the bullet was 0.34 of a second. God is in the details.. Edited July 14 by IronMan70 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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