I Think the Dems Have Lost the High Ground

[TexasTiger 14,227]

6 hours ago, I_M4_AU said:

Well, I’m sure will believe this is a horrible stain on America’s history.  It is as bad as 9-11 or the Civil War.

Spoken like a true cultist.

[I_M4_AU 8,914]

5 hours ago, TexasTiger said:

Spoken like a true cultist.

You can’t see the irony in this at all.  You and your *cult* are not better than what you call *MAGAs*.  

[TexasTiger 14,227]

16 minutes ago, I_M4_AU said:

You can’t see the irony in this at all.  You and your *cult* are not better than what you call *MAGAs*.  

What’s my cult?

[I_M4_AU 8,914]

1 minute ago, TexasTiger said:

What’s my cult?

I haven’t come up with a name yet, maybe Democrats?

How about KD2SD?

Kill Democracy to Save Democracy.

[TexasTiger 14,227]

5 minutes ago, I_M4_AU said:

I haven’t come up with a name yet, maybe Democrats?

How about KD2SD?

Kill Democracy to Save Democracy.

And how am I killing democracy?

[I_M4_AU 8,914]

Just now, TexasTiger said:

And how am I killing democracy?

You’re cult is.  Keep up.

Your cult now wants to tone down the rhetoric, but it is hard to turn that ship around after 3.5 years of this type of crap:

 

and

 

KD2SD.  I like it.

[homersapien 12,215]

What a stupid premise the title of this thread is. 

 

[I_M4_AU 8,914]

From Victor Davis Hanson:

 

 

Assassination Porn and the Sickness on the Left If we were leftists and we were to use leftist tropes to editorialize the recent attempt on Trump’s life, then we would frame the assassination attempt in the following way:

We have witnessed for years blatant exceptions to the once common custom that we don’t normalize the imagined killing of any president or presidential candidate and thus lower the bar of violence.

But the Left constantly makes Trump an exception. Now, it as if the imagined killing of Trump had been mainstreamed and become acceptable in a way inconceivable of other presidents.

(Do we remember the rodeo clown who merely wore an Obama mask during a bull riding contest and was punished by being permanently banned by the Missouri State Fair authorities?)

So since at least 2016 there has been a parlor game among Leftist celebrities and entertainers joking (one hopes), dreaming, imagining, and just talking about the various and graphic ways they would like to assassinate or seriously injure Trump:

By slugging his face (Robert De Niro), by decapitation (Kathy Griffin, Marilyn Manson), by stabbing (Shakespeare in the Park), by clubbing (Mickey Rourke), by shooting ( Snoop Dogg), by poisoning (Anthony Bourdain), by bounty killing (George Lopez), by carrion eating his corpse (Pearl Jam), by suffocating (Larry Whilmore), by blowing him up (Madonna, Moby), by throwing him over a cliff (Rosie O’Donnell), just by generic “killing” him (Johnny Depp, Big Sean), or by martyring him (Reid Hoffman: “Yeah, I wish I had made him an actual martyr.”).

Or should we deplore the use of telescopic scope imagery, given that the Left blamed Sarah Palin for once using bullseye spots on an election map of opposition congressional districts, claiming that such usage had incited the mass shooting by Jared Lee Loughner?

Yet, recently POTUS Joe Biden was a little bit more graphic and a lot more literal.

In a widely reported call to hundreds of donors last week, Biden boasted, “I have one job, and that’s to beat Donald Trump. I’m absolutely certain I’m the best person to be able to do that. So, we’re done talking about the debate, it’s time to put Trump in a bullseye.”

"In a bullseye?”

At least, Biden did not go back to the full Biden beat-up porn of the past (e.g., “If we were in high school, I’d take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him"/ “The press always asks me, ‘Don’t I wish I were debating him?’ No, I wish we were in high school – I could take him behind the gym. That’s what I wish.”).

Then there is the question of the Secret Service and one’s political opponents. Given the tragic history of the Kennedys, why in the world did the Biden administration not insist that third-party candidate Robert Kennedy, Jr. be accorded Secret Service protection? Because his candidacy was felt to be disadvantageous to Biden?

And why just this April would the former head of the January 6th Committee and 2004 election obstructionist Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) introduce legislation ridiculously entitled, “Denying Infinite Security and Government Resources Allocated toward Convicted and Extremely Dishonorable (DISGRACED) Former Protectees Act” to strip away Secret Service protection for former President Trump and by this April current leading presidential candidate?

Had Thompson’s bill passed, would that not have been confirmation for a potential shooter to feel his task was just made much easier?

But in a wider sense, if the common referent day after day on the Left is that Trump is another Hitler (cf. a recent The New Republic cover where Trump is literally photoshopped as Hitler), then it seems reckless not to imagine an unhinged or young shootist believing that by taking out somewhat identical to one of the greatest mass murderers in history, he would be applauded for his violence?

So is their logic, shoot Trump and save six million from the gas chambers?

After all, The New Republic defiantly explained their Hitler-Trump cover photo this way, "Today, we at The New Republic think we can spend this election year in one of two ways. We can spend it debating whether Trump meets the nine or 17 points that define fascism. Or we can spend it saying, “He’s damn close enough, and we’d better fight.”

Well, New Republic, recently someone took you up on your argument that Trump was “damn close enough” to Hitler and so he likewise chose to “fight”— albeit with a semi-automatic rifle.

If ad nauseam, a Joy Reid is screaming about Trump as a Hitlerian dictator ("Then let me know who I got to vote for to keep Hitler out of the White House”) or Rachel Maddow is bloviating about studying Hitler to understand Trump, then finally the message sinks in that a mass murderer is about to take power—unless....

Finally, the idea, if true, that bystanders spotted a 20-year-old on a nearby roof with a gun, a mere 130 yards from Trump, and in vain warned police of his presence, is surreal.

Is it all that hard for the Secret Service to post a few agents on the tops of a few surrounding buildings closest to the dais, or at least coordinate with local law enforcement to do the same?

That is a no brainer. Whoever made the decisions concerning the proper secret service security details for presidential events should be immediately fired.

 

[CoffeeTiger 5,860]

10 hours ago, autigeremt said:

Looks like he was from an Antifa group. 

I think that came from a fake social media account. 
 

 

 

[DKW 86 7,892]

1 minute ago, CoffeeTiger said:

I think that came from a fake social media account. 

According to Guardian, he was an ActBlue Donor. I must have missed my email telling me to shoot trump.

[ShocksMyBrain 9,660]

21 minutes ago, CoffeeTiger said:

I think that came from a fake social media account. 
 

 

 

He was a registered Republican at 22 who donated $15 when he was 17 to whatever Liberal organization. If it was even him, supposedly there are two others by the same name that live in his district—I haven’t seen anything confirming that since reading it earlier this morning. 

[CoffeeTiger 5,860]

41 minutes ago, DKW 86 said:

According to Guardian, he was an ActBlue Donor. I must have missed my email telling me to shoot trump.

He donated $15 once and must have gone crazy from all the donation request emails he got afterwards. 

[CoffeeTiger 5,860]

24 minutes ago, ShocksMyBrain said:

He was a registered Republican at 22 who donated $15 when he was 17 to whatever Liberal organization. If it was even him, supposedly there are two others by the same name that live in his district—I haven’t seen anything confirming that since reading it earlier this morning. 

He was shot wearing the merchandise shirt of a popular Gun showcase YouTuber, Demolition Ranch. 

[DKW 86 7,892]

5 minutes ago, CoffeeTiger said:

He donated $15 once and must have gone crazy from all the donation request emails he got afterwards. 

I can plainly see your point, at least 2-3 times a day since my first donation...

[CoffeeTiger 5,860]

[autigeremt 7,194]

56 minutes ago, DKW 86 said:

I can plainly see your point, at least 2-3 times a day since my first donation...

Hell, if you look at a site (or just think of looking) you start getting tons of calls, texts and emails. 😂 

Edited July 14 by autigeremt

[homersapien 12,215]

16 hours ago, E'Town4Bama said:

If that person wanted Trump dead, that person doesn't support the republican party. Don't kid yourself.

Actually, there was a Republican party long before Trump and plenty of those Republicans do not support Trump.

Trump took over the GOP.  But it serves them right as they set the stage then allowed him to do it.

[homersapien 12,215]

12 hours ago, AUFAN78 said:

For months, politicians, the press and pundits have escalated reckless rhetoric in this campaign on both sides. That includes claims that Trump was set to kill democracy, unleash “death squads” and make homosexuals and reporters “disappear.”

President Biden has stoked this rage rhetoric. In 2022, Biden held his controversial speech before Independence Hall where he denounced Trump supporters as enemies of the people. Biden recently referenced the speech and has embraced the claims that this could be our last democratic election.

Some of us have been objecting for years that this rage rhetoric is a dangerous political pitch for the nation. While most people reject the hyperbolic claims, others take it as true. They believe that homosexuals are going to be “disappeared” as claimed on ABC’s “The View” or that the Trump “death squads” are now green lighted by a conservative Supreme Court, as claimed by MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow.

 

As soon as Trump was elected, unhinged rage became the norm as with Kathy Griffin featuring herself holding the bloody severed head of Trump. 

Just recently, another celebrity, actress Lea DeLaria, begged Biden to “blow [Trump] up” after the recent presidential immunity decision. DeLaria explained that “this is a **** war. This is a war now, and we are fighting for our **** country. And these a**holes are going to take it away. They’re going to take it away.”

For months, people have heard politicians and press call Trump “Hitler” and the GOP a Nazi movement. Some compared stopping Trump to stopping Hitler in 1933. Rep. Dan Goldman (D-N.Y.) declared Trump “is not only unfit, he is destructive to our democracy and he has to be eliminated.” He later apologized.

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) went to the steps of the Supreme Court and called out Kavanaugh by name: “I want to tell you, (Justice Neil) Gorsuch. I want to tell you, Kavanaugh. You have released the whirlwind, and you will pay the price. You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.”

Thus, when the president is claiming that the election may end democracy in the nation, it can be heard as much as a license as a warning, particularly when he adds “we’re done talking about the debate, it’s time to put Trump in a bullseye.” 

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4770670-the-attempted-assassination-of-trump-is-not-nearly-as-surprising-as-it-should-be/

 

"Violent rhetoric has consequences. There is nothing partisan about it."   

[RunInRed 18,280]

 

[E'Town4Bama 174]

12 minutes ago, homersapien said:

Actually, there was a Republican party long before Trump and plenty of those Republicans do not support Trump.

Trump took over the GOP.  But it serves them right as they set the stage then allowed him to do it.

Fair enough but there was also a Democrat party long before Biden and he is losing their support.

[RunInRed 18,280]

 

[homersapien 12,215]

1 minute ago, E'Town4Bama said:

Fair enough but there was also a Democrat party long before Biden and he is losing their support.

Yep.  But at least that's possible within the Democratic Party.  They are a party of diversity.

Republicans throw out anyone who doesn't fall in line.  Like a cult.

[AU9377 5,995]

4 hours ago, I_M4_AU said:

From Victor Davis Hanson:

 

 

Assassination Porn and the Sickness on the Left If we were leftists and we were to use leftist tropes to editorialize the recent attempt on Trump’s life, then we would frame the assassination attempt in the following way:

We have witnessed for years blatant exceptions to the once common custom that we don’t normalize the imagined killing of any president or presidential candidate and thus lower the bar of violence.

But the Left constantly makes Trump an exception. Now, it as if the imagined killing of Trump had been mainstreamed and become acceptable in a way inconceivable of other presidents.

(Do we remember the rodeo clown who merely wore an Obama mask during a bull riding contest and was punished by being permanently banned by the Missouri State Fair authorities?)

So since at least 2016 there has been a parlor game among Leftist celebrities and entertainers joking (one hopes), dreaming, imagining, and just talking about the various and graphic ways they would like to assassinate or seriously injure Trump:

By slugging his face (Robert De Niro), by decapitation (Kathy Griffin, Marilyn Manson), by stabbing (Shakespeare in the Park), by clubbing (Mickey Rourke), by shooting ( Snoop Dogg), by poisoning (Anthony Bourdain), by bounty killing (George Lopez), by carrion eating his corpse (Pearl Jam), by suffocating (Larry Whilmore), by blowing him up (Madonna, Moby), by throwing him over a cliff (Rosie O’Donnell), just by generic “killing” him (Johnny Depp, Big Sean), or by martyring him (Reid Hoffman: “Yeah, I wish I had made him an actual martyr.”).

Or should we deplore the use of telescopic scope imagery, given that the Left blamed Sarah Palin for once using bullseye spots on an election map of opposition congressional districts, claiming that such usage had incited the mass shooting by Jared Lee Loughner?

Yet, recently POTUS Joe Biden was a little bit more graphic and a lot more literal.

In a widely reported call to hundreds of donors last week, Biden boasted, “I have one job, and that’s to beat Donald Trump. I’m absolutely certain I’m the best person to be able to do that. So, we’re done talking about the debate, it’s time to put Trump in a bullseye.”

"In a bullseye?”

At least, Biden did not go back to the full Biden beat-up porn of the past (e.g., “If we were in high school, I’d take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him"/ “The press always asks me, ‘Don’t I wish I were debating him?’ No, I wish we were in high school – I could take him behind the gym. That’s what I wish.”).

Then there is the question of the Secret Service and one’s political opponents. Given the tragic history of the Kennedys, why in the world did the Biden administration not insist that third-party candidate Robert Kennedy, Jr. be accorded Secret Service protection? Because his candidacy was felt to be disadvantageous to Biden?

And why just this April would the former head of the January 6th Committee and 2004 election obstructionist Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) introduce legislation ridiculously entitled, “Denying Infinite Security and Government Resources Allocated toward Convicted and Extremely Dishonorable (DISGRACED) Former Protectees Act” to strip away Secret Service protection for former President Trump and by this April current leading presidential candidate?

Had Thompson’s bill passed, would that not have been confirmation for a potential shooter to feel his task was just made much easier?

But in a wider sense, if the common referent day after day on the Left is that Trump is another Hitler (cf. a recent The New Republic cover where Trump is literally photoshopped as Hitler), then it seems reckless not to imagine an unhinged or young shootist believing that by taking out somewhat identical to one of the greatest mass murderers in history, he would be applauded for his violence?

So is their logic, shoot Trump and save six million from the gas chambers?

After all, The New Republic defiantly explained their Hitler-Trump cover photo this way, "Today, we at The New Republic think we can spend this election year in one of two ways. We can spend it debating whether Trump meets the nine or 17 points that define fascism. Or we can spend it saying, “He’s damn close enough, and we’d better fight.”

Well, New Republic, recently someone took you up on your argument that Trump was “damn close enough” to Hitler and so he likewise chose to “fight”— albeit with a semi-automatic rifle.

If ad nauseam, a Joy Reid is screaming about Trump as a Hitlerian dictator ("Then let me know who I got to vote for to keep Hitler out of the White House”) or Rachel Maddow is bloviating about studying Hitler to understand Trump, then finally the message sinks in that a mass murderer is about to take power—unless....

Finally, the idea, if true, that bystanders spotted a 20-year-old on a nearby roof with a gun, a mere 130 yards from Trump, and in vain warned police of his presence, is surreal.

Is it all that hard for the Secret Service to post a few agents on the tops of a few surrounding buildings closest to the dais, or at least coordinate with local law enforcement to do the same?

That is a no brainer. Whoever made the decisions concerning the proper secret service security details for presidential events should be immediately fired.

 

I’m convinced that a large part of the problem with our political system is the large number of people that form their opinions based on snippets of opinions they read online. They no longer consider facts and then form an opinion.

[I_M4_AU 8,914]

8 minutes ago, AU9377 said:

I’m convinced that a large part of the problem with our political system is the large number of people that form their opinions based on snippets of opinions they read online. They no longer consider facts and then form an opinion.

How many times have you called or agreed with people that called Trump Hitler?

[I_M4_AU 8,914]

To the victim:

 

RIP