Joe & Kamala - 'the hell with national security, let's illegally pay off student loans.'

[Tigermike 3,657]

 

[AU9377 5,922]

17 hours ago, Tigermike said:

 

............because we don't spend BILLIONS on defense as it is?  This is the weakest argument that could possibly be made.  How many defense contractors have we made poor?

[Tigermike 3,657]

1 minute ago, AU9377 said:

............because we don't spend BILLIONS on defense as it is?  This is the weakest argument that could possibly be made.  How many defense contractors have we made poor?

With that attempt at deflection,  should we assume you are all in with the unconstitutional college loan bailouts?

 

[AU9377 5,922]

1 minute ago, Tigermike said:

With that attempt at deflection,  should we assume you are all in with the unconstitutional college loan bailouts?

 

You attempted to tie one issue to the other.  I am in favor of restructuring the student loan system.  Some do need forgiveness, while others do not.  Whatever the answer is regarding student loans, it has nothing to do with our over spending related to our military.

[auburnatl1 6,019]

 

We can’t AFFORD this.

Shouldn’t be buying more aircraft carriers or paying off student loans. 
 

 

[TexasTiger 14,068]

17 hours ago, Tigermike said:

 

Now do Trump’s tax cuts for the wealthy.

[Leftfield 3,307]

17 hours ago, Tigermike said:

 

 

I don't completely agree with all the debt forgiveness that's been granted, but it is not a zero sum game. Allowing people to get out of debt earlier means they will begin contributing to the economy earlier. Economic growth and less debt held will increase tax revenue. 

 

[Tigermike 3,657]

5 hours ago, TexasTiger said:

Now do Trump’s tax cuts for the wealthy.

Those tax cuts were not limited to wealthy citizens.  And you know it.

[AU9377 5,922]

17 hours ago, Tigermike said:

Those tax cuts were not limited to wealthy citizens.  And you know it.

Yet some were made permanent and some temporary... and you know it.

[Ausburn2 532]

On 7/8/2024 at 9:30 AM, Leftfield said:

 

I don't completely agree with all the debt forgiveness that's been granted, but it is not a zero sum game. Allowing people to get out of debt earlier means they will begin contributing to the economy earlier. Economic growth and less debt held will increase tax revenue. 

 

If you are forgiving the debt then the money has become unearned income. 

[Tigermike 3,657]

3 hours ago, AU9377 said:

Yet some were made permanent and some temporary... and you know it.

And democrats raised taxes for everyone when they let it expire.  And you know it.

[autigeremt 7,131]

Defense spending is one area that’s needed, though oversight and transparency can be a glaring issue when dealing with the IMC. 

[cbo 8,556]

On 7/7/2024 at 1:25 PM, Tigermike said:

 

Do you honestly believe we don't spend enough on "national security."

[CoffeeTiger 5,843]

2 hours ago, Tigermike said:

And democrats raised taxes for everyone when they let it expire.  And you know it.

Just because they give small benefits to the middle class doesn't fully justify large cuts for the wealthy. 

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/08/politics/trump-tax-cuts-tcja-wealthy-benefit/index.html

 

 

[JMWATS 253]

America Spends Less On Its Military Than You Think. Look At The Numbers. (forbes.com)

[AU9377 5,922]

4 minutes ago, JMWATS said:

America Spends Less On Its Military Than You Think. Look At The Numbers. (forbes.com)

Good Lord......this is from the cited piece...

Or, to take another example, Washington may spend as much on defense as the next ten military powers combined, however the Pentagon’s annual outlays are only about a third more than revenues at Walmart WMT +0.3% .

As though the two have anything whatsoever to do one with the other.

Edited July 9 by AU9377

[JMWATS 253]

Sweet Jesus! ...  80% of NATO countries do not "pay their fair share" of the NATO defense requirement, 

If they did perhaps U.S. defense spending could be reduced.

Edited July 9 by JMWATS

[cbo 8,556]

1 hour ago, AU9377 said:

Good Lord......this is from the cited piece...

Or, to take another example, Washington may spend as much on defense as the next ten military powers combined, however the Pentagon’s annual outlays are only about a third more than revenues at Walmart WMT +0.3% .

As though the two have anything whatsoever to do one with the other.

What a weird article. Why is he going on about how much we spend for holidays?

Wonder who wrote it. Let's check out the author's bio at the bottom of the page:

"I focus on the strategic, economic and business implications of defense spending as the Chief Operating Officer of the non-profit Lexington Institute ...  Disclosure: The Lexington Institute receives funding from many of the nation’s leading defense contractors, including Boeing, General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin and Raytheon Technologies."

[Tigermike 3,657]

On 7/9/2024 at 8:28 AM, AU9377 said:

Yet some were made permanent and some temporary... and you know it.

And dems voted for that.... and you know it.