Anybody cool with this?

[TexasTiger 14,070]

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/27/us/oklahoma-public-schools-bible.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Oklahoma’s state superintendent on Thursday directed all public schools to teach the Bible, including the Ten Commandments, in the latest conservative push testing the boundaries between religious instruction and public education.

The superintendent, Ryan Walters, who is a Republican, described the Bible as an “indispensable historical and cultural touchstone” and said it must be taught in certain grade levels.

[AUDub 11,784]

Man. All in on “history and tradition”

[homersapien 12,172]

And we can combine graduation ceremonies with baptisms!

[homersapien 12,172]

He said the state Department of Education may supply teaching materials for the Bible “to ensure uniformity in delivery.”

“Immediate and strict compliance is expected,” the memo said.

[AuCivilEng1 11,811]

This is getting insane man. Why are they doing this. Nobody wants to be in a religion they’re forced to be in. 
 

[homersapien 12,172]

11 minutes ago, AUDub said:

Man. All in on “history and tradition”

That's the new code phrase for Christian Nationalism. 

Sort of like "separate but equal" was for segregation.

Edited June 27 by homersapien

[AuCivilEng1 11,811]

Just now, homersapien said:

That's the new code phrase for Christian Nationalism. 

Sort of like "separate but equal" was for segregation.

If Don wins and he’s able to pack the courts more, theocratic authoritarianism is where we are all headed.

[homersapien 12,172]

"History and Tradition"....  

Well except for the history of the 1921 Tulsa massacre, which Oklahoma suppressed and refused to compensate the victims.

[SaltyTiger 8,526]

4 hours ago, TexasTiger said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/27/us/oklahoma-public-schools-bible.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Oklahoma’s state superintendent on Thursday directed all public schools to teach the Bible, including the Ten Commandments, in the latest conservative push testing the boundaries between religious instruction and public education.

The superintendent, Ryan Walters, who is a Republican, described the Bible as an “indispensable historical and cultural touchstone” and said it must be taught in certain grade levels.

https://thehill.com/homenews/education/4744009-oklahoma-ryan-walters-bible-ten-commandments-church-and-state/
 

As a reference regarding history and our founders is something to consider.

“The Bible is one of the most historically significant books and a cornerstone of Western civilization, along with the Ten Commandments. They will be referenced as an appropriate study of history, civilization, ethics, comparative religion, or the like, as well as for their substantial influence on our nation’s founders and the foundational principles of our Constitution,” Walters wrote in a memorandum to schools that says the Bible must be a part of the curriculum for students in fifth through 12th grades.

[Leftfield 3,307]

2 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said:

https://thehill.com/homenews/education/4744009-oklahoma-ryan-walters-bible-ten-commandments-church-and-state/
 

As a reference regarding history and our founders is something to consider.

“The Bible is one of the most historically significant books and a cornerstone of Western civilization, along with the Ten Commandments. They will be referenced as an appropriate study of history, civilization, ethics, comparative religion, or the like, as well as for their substantial influence on our nation’s founders and the foundational principles of our Constitution,” Walters wrote in a memorandum to schools that says the Bible must be a part of the curriculum for students in fifth through 12th grades.

Do you believe that is their reason for mandating it?

[SaltyTiger 8,526]

15 minutes ago, Leftfield said:

Do you believe that is their reason for mandating it?

That is what I read. 

[AU9377 5,922]

4 hours ago, TexasTiger said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/27/us/oklahoma-public-schools-bible.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Oklahoma’s state superintendent on Thursday directed all public schools to teach the Bible, including the Ten Commandments, in the latest conservative push testing the boundaries between religious instruction and public education.

The superintendent, Ryan Walters, who is a Republican, described the Bible as an “indispensable historical and cultural touchstone” and said it must be taught in certain grade levels.

It is a race to see who can be the dumbest.  A true race to the bottom.  These are the same people that give all that lip service to respecting the constitution, right before they strike a match to it.

Edited June 28 by AU9377

[auburnatl1 6,020]

Ah, another our schools suck state. Same change the narrative technique as Louisiana’s 10 commandments announcement (who’s ranked 47th).

Sure your kids are being betrayed in their education - but don’t worry, there’s good news.

[AURex 2,214]

The myth of Christian Nationalism is so reminiscent of all the nazi Aryan rhetoric, including the mandate to brainwash young people with the ideology. It is frightening that this has become so entrenched in the American right wing, neo-nazi, christian nationalist segment of our society.

 

[Leftfield 3,307]

13 hours ago, SaltyTiger said:

That is what I read. 

So you actually believe that is their motivation?

If so, why do they not include all references and influences on the founding of our government?

[homersapien 12,172]

11 hours ago, AURex said:

The myth of Christian Nationalism is so reminiscent of all the nazi Aryan rhetoric, including the mandate to brainwash young people with the ideology. It is frightening that this has become so entrenched in the American right wing, neo-nazi, christian nationalist segment of our society.

 

Putin is using the Russian Orthodox church the exact same way.  There was a long article in "The Atlantic" on it.

[homersapien 12,172]

16 hours ago, homersapien said:

And we can combine graduation ceremonies with baptisms!

Apparently, jj3jordan seriously approved this. 

 

[homersapien 12,172]

13 hours ago, SaltyTiger said:

That is what I read. 

Classic Salty response. 

[auburnatl1 6,020]

11 hours ago, AURex said:

The myth of Christian Nationalism is so reminiscent of all the nazi Aryan rhetoric, including the mandate to brainwash young people with the ideology. It is frightening that this has become so entrenched in the American right wing, neo-nazi, christian nationalist segment of our society.

 

The sad part is that its  the poorest states, with the highest brain drain, receiving the most federal aid (they hate the gov but are dependent on it), with the worst educational systems where Christian nationalism has a growing influence.

Extrapolate this out 30 years and it isn’t pretty.

[SaltyTiger 8,526]

39 minutes ago, Leftfield said:

So you actually believe that is their motivation?

If so, why do they not include all references and influences on the founding of our government?

Haven’t considered a motive other than what I have read. I am not sure how many references are used in the curriculum. The  Bible is the best selling book of all time. Seems appropriate for it to be referenced.

https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-book-of-non-fiction

“The best-selling book of all time is the Christian Bible.”

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11 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said:

Haven’t considered a motive other than what I have read. I am not sure how many references are used in the curriculum. The  Bible is the best selling book of all time. Seems appropriate for it to be referenced.

https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-book-of-non-fiction

“The best-selling book of all time is the Christian Bible.”

There's been a Bible in just about every hotel room for more than 100 years. Churches have tons of them in the pews. Religious groups buy them in bulk to hand out. I don't think you can compare the Bible's sales to most other books.

Referenced? Sure. Mandated? Hell no.

 

[auburnatl1 6,020]

17 hours ago, SaltyTiger said:

That is what I read. 

I understand you feel that this isn’t a big deal, innocent,  maybe even logical. Just be aware why many non maga’s are concerned about where this goes. Islam was always accused of being the religion most susceptible to radicalization and authoritarian theocracy… Respectfully, it is kinda worrisome.

https://theweek.com/politics/donald-trump-christian-nationalism-theocracy-maga

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[SaltyTiger 8,526]

1 hour ago, Leftfield said:

There's been a Bible in just about every hotel room for more than 100 years. Churches have tons of them in the pews. Religious groups buy them in bulk to hand out. I don't think you can compare the Bible's sales to most other books.

Referenced? Sure. Mandated? Hell no.

 

Someone bought them to distribute. Doesn’t change the fact. It also the most read book in the world.

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-top-10-most-read-books-in-the-world-infographic-2012-12

“The most read book in the world is the Bible.”

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44 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said:

Someone bought them to distribute. Doesn’t change the fact. It also the most read book in the world.

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-top-10-most-read-books-in-the-world-infographic-2012-12

“The most read book in the world is the Bible.”

"Writer James Chapman created a list of the most read books in the world based on the number of copies each book sold over the last 50 years."

[SaltyTiger 8,526]

2 hours ago, auburnatl1 said:

Respectfully, it is kinda worrisome.

Always a few zealots around but doubt anything to really worry about.