METHOD OF CONVERSION TO CHRISTIANITY

[CoffeeTiger 5,843]

1 hour ago, jj3jordan said:

That’s the point. Legit accusations were buried to protect Clinton and Biden. Trump? All resources from every possible agency brought to bear full tilt with still no real evidence aside from a nebulous claim from years ago. Unequal application of the law. Clear as day if you are not too biased to see it.

Always a conspiracy. 

Every. single. time. 

[AuCivilEng1 11,811]

10 minutes ago, CoffeeTiger said:

Always a conspiracy. 

Every. single. time. 

This whole reality is baffling to me. You can’t reason with people anymore with facts and evidence. This isn’t sustainable.

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[CoffeeTiger 5,843]

1 hour ago, AUFAN78 said:

So there are multiple videos by these guys, who are experts used by our IC. When they say there is an 85% chance TR is telling the truth I listen. Is TR somewhat crazy now? Perhaps, but so was E. Jean Carroll by many accounts. Frankly, this isn't about Trump.

Only reason I bring up Trump is because, as in this thread, the allegations from Reade are brought up as a comparison anytime Trumps numerous sexual exploits are talked about as if they are a one to one comparison. 
 

 

I can't speak to the accuracy or beliefs of these people in the YouTube video. I know these types of behavioral analysis guys/experts are generally pretty popular with people who like to follow high profile celebrity trials and murder mysteries and the like as they enjoy analyzing videos of people in interviews and in court hearings and then make hypothesis and predictions on who is telling the truth and who isn't. 

 

I don't know what the science of body language reading says or how accurate it is. 

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16 minutes ago, CoffeeTiger said:

I don't know what the science of body language reading says or how accurate it is. 

It’s about on par with the polygraph. 

[ArgoEagle 2,039]

11 hours ago, aubiefifty said:

👋👋👋100% Correct on this one Fitty  

[jj3jordan 2,160]

2 hours ago, AuCivilEng1 said:

What a world we live in. Anything Trump is guilty of is a conspiracy and shouldn’t be taken seriously. And all the stuff that Clinton and Biden have been accused of should be taken at face value, without any legal justification. 
 

I don’t understand why people even try anymore with this sh*t. Things like evidence, trials, facts, and proof don’t seem to matter. 
 

How tf are we in a situation where people feel ok calling people rapist without proof and evidence. 

The facts are that accusations against Clinton and Biden were never taken seriously or even mildly investigated.  Trump gets the whole show thrown at him for a questionable accusation, on par with or weaker than accusations by Broaddrick and Reade.  Call it what you want. Those are historical facts, not a dreaded conspiracy theory. The cases are the same. Long after incidents occurred accusations were made against politicians with something to  lose. The only difference is the D and the R. If you can't see that then something is wrong with your brain.

[AuCivilEng1 11,811]

30 minutes ago, jj3jordan said:

The facts are that accusations against Clinton and Biden were never taken seriously or even mildly investigated.  Trump gets the whole show thrown at him for a questionable accusation, on par with or weaker than accusations by Broaddrick and Reade.  Call it what you want. Those are historical facts, not a dreaded conspiracy theory. The cases are the same. Long after incidents occurred accusations were made against politicians with something to  lose. The only difference is the D and the R. If you can't see that then something is wrong with your brain.

Prosecutors take cases that they can win. They have no interest in losing cases. Biden and Clinton weren’t indicted and later convicted, because the evidence wasn’t there. If it was, Trump’s justice department would have done it. Same with Hillary. They had 4 years to get down to the bottom of all of their history and expose them and they did nothing. 

[DKW 86 7,866]

Myself, and my church, we use Andy Stanley's Simple as the basis for our growing the church. In it's most basic terms, Simple is LIVE THE BEST SERMON.

Preaching is just words. Words are often just lies. If someone is working with you, everyday, shoulder to shoulder, you get to know those people. You get to see those people.

You can say 10,000 words or you can live one day as a Christian and influence far more people than you can imagine. The best sermon is a lived sermon.

[AUFAN78 4,130]

17 hours ago, CoffeeTiger said:

Only reason I bring up Trump is because, as in this thread, the allegations from Reade are brought up as a comparison anytime Trumps numerous sexual exploits are talked about as if they are a one to one comparison. 
 

 

I can't speak to the accuracy or beliefs of these people in the YouTube video. I know these types of behavioral analysis guys/experts are generally pretty popular with people who like to follow high profile celebrity trials and murder mysteries and the like as they enjoy analyzing videos of people in interviews and in court hearings and then make hypothesis and predictions on who is telling the truth and who isn't. 

 

I don't know what the science of body language reading says or how accurate it is. 

Correct me if wrong, but it certainly seems you don't want to believe them. Given your partisan leanings, I get it, but reiterate these guys are used by our intelligence community. Let that sink in.

[AUFAN78 4,130]

17 hours ago, AUDub said:

It’s about on par with the polygraph. 

Which BTW, with todays technology and updated protocols, is 85% to 95% accurate. That doesn't mean a blood-mobile driver can operate one effectively.  An important point, typically dismissed by naysayers.

Using our actual experience as our basis, we found that the lie detector's accuracy is exceptionally high and typically ranges between 88% and 98% in real-world examinations, as opposed to study environments, with an average of 95% for each test taken.

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1 hour ago, AUFAN78 said:

Which BTW, with todays technology and updated protocols, is 85% to 95% accurate. That doesn't mean a blood-mobile driver can operate one effectively.  An important point, typically dismissed by naysayers.

Using our actual experience as our basis, we found that the lie detector's accuracy is exceptionally high and typically ranges between 88% and 98% in real-world examinations, as opposed to study environments, with an average of 95% for each test taken.

True believers. Carefully controlled studies aren’t that much better than a coin flip. 52% Which, coincidentally, is only a hair better the baseline for binary questions of 50%

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The true benefit of the polygraph, to the extent it has one, has nothing to do with parameters it’s reading. The interviewer probably isn’t even paying attention to the machine. They’re paying attention to you. It is, in essence, a bluff machine lol. 

[DKW 86 7,866]

On 6/27/2024 at 9:39 AM, AUFAN78 said:

Which BTW, with todays technology and updated protocols, is 85% to 95% accurate. That doesn't mean a blood-mobile driver can operate one effectively.  An important point, typically dismissed by naysayers.

Using our actual experience as our basis, we found that the lie detector's accuracy is exceptionally high and typically ranges between 88% and 98% in real-world examinations, as opposed to study environments, with an average of 95% for each test taken.

I worked with a company that polygraphed everything. I can tell you from first-hand work with them that most polys are about 55% accurate at best. We had drug dealers who were passing and were employed by the company before the false polygraphs were discovered. We had people that had stolen from the company, been fired, altered their resumes, and were then rehired by the company after passing 5 or more polys. Please don't get the idea that polys are rigorous in any way. They are not.  

I tell everyone that they should record polys on toilet paper just so there is a good use for the paper later on. 

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[AUFAN78 4,130]

23 hours ago, AUDub said:

True believers. Carefully controlled studies aren’t that much better than a coin flip. 52% Which, coincidentally, is only a hair better the baseline for binary questions of 50%

This isn't about controlled studies from people who have no business employing these techniques. In the hands of professionals, like those in our IC, these techniques are highly effective as previously noted. 

[AUFAN78 4,130]

5 hours ago, DKW 86 said:

I worked with a company that polygraphed everything. I can tell you from first-hand work with them that most polys are about 55% accurate at best. We had drug dealers who were passing and were employed by the company before the false polygraph was discovered. We had people that had stolen from the company, been fired, altered their resumes, and were then rehired by the company after passing 5 or more polys. Please don't get the idea that polys are rigorous in any way. They are not.  

I tell everyone that they should record polys on toilet paper just so there is a good use for the paper later on. 

We simply cannot compare non-experts using outdated equipment with outdated protocols with our IC. Non-starter. And yes, there is a history of this. I've taken 3, after winning fishing tournaments, some by persons that had no business administering the test. It happens. 

[DKW 86 7,866]

19 hours ago, AUFAN78 said:

We simply cannot compare non-experts using outdated equipment with outdated protocols with our IC. Non-starter. And yes, there is a history of this. I've taken 3, after winning fishing tournaments, some by persons that had no business administering the test. It happens. 

We used supposedly the best in the business. We had full-time 40+ hours/week polygraphers. They were called the best of the best. The company recruited them from across the nation. Paid them well with big budgets and expense accounts. We also used some local agencies too. We still had thieves and drug dealers strolling about the company. The drug dealer was flooding the company with ludes for pre-polygraph folks. They knew to come to her because everyone in the company KNEW what she was dealing. Did the company ever put a microphone or video tape to work? NO! They relied on the polys. They eventually got bought out by the competition because the losses were killing them. 

The day the company got bought out, the transaction happened over a weekend, the home office folks, some had been there 20-25 years. They were taken into a first-floor area in the HO in Houston and they were told Monday at 0800 that they were no longer needed and to get an armed guard escort to their offices/desks to clean out their belongings. No warning, no severance, no nothing. They were sold off to the #3 retailer and were out of business by Monday noon. 

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23 hours ago, AUFAN78 said:

This isn't about controlled studies from people who have no business employing these techniques. In the hands of professionals, like those in our IC, these techniques are highly effective as previously noted. 

It’s a lot like Chiropractic in that practitioners are extremely confident that their profession isn’t bull****. 

[AUFAN78 4,130]

On 6/29/2024 at 6:07 AM, DKW 86 said:

We used supposedly the best in the business. We had full-time 40+ hours/week polygraphers. They were called the best of the best. The company recruited them from across the nation. Paid them well with big budgets and expense accounts. We also used some local agencies too. We still had thieves and drug dealers strolling about the company. The drug dealer was flooding the company with ludes for pre-polygraph folks. They knew to come to her because everyone in the company KNEW what she was dealing. Did the company ever put a microphone or video tape to work? NO! They relied on the polys. They eventually got bought out by the competition because the losses were killing them. 

The day the company got bought out, the transaction happened over a weekend, the home office folks, some had been there 20-25 years. They were taken into a first-floor area in the HO in Houston and they were told Monday at 0800 that they were no longer needed and to get an armed guard escort to their offices/desks to clean out their belongings. No warning, no severance, no nothing. They were sold off to the #3 retailer and were out of business by Monday noon. 

Great story. Thanks for sharing!

[AUFAN78 4,130]

23 hours ago, AUDub said:

It’s a lot like Chiropractic in that practitioners are extremely confident that their profession isn’t bull****. 

You solved the riddle. We now know why the IC doesn't hire chiropractors. 

[AURex 2,214]

All of this is just more right wing WHAT ABOUT ISM! What about Clinton? What about polygraphs?  What about blah-blah-blah.

FACT! Trump sexually assaulted women, was tried in a NY (not federal) court of law on two occasions, and was convicted of sexual assault.

FACT! Trump and his family and cohorts defrauded the state of NY, the city of NY, the citizens of NY, and the corporations (including banks) that he did business with, and were convicted in a state (not federal) court.

He has been convicted time after time (Trump University anyone?) for his illegal activities.

There is no whataboutism. He is a grifter, a con, the Don of a mafia family.

And none of the stuff in this thread has anything to do with "conversion to Christianity."

Edited July 1 by AURex

[aubiefifty 18,114]

4 hours ago, AURex said:

All of this is just more right wing WHAT ABOUT ISM! What about Clinton? What about polygraphs?  What about blah-blah-blah.

FACT! Trump sexually assaulted women, was tried in a NY (not federal) court of law on two occasions, and was convicted of sexual assault.

FACT! Trump and his family and cohorts defrauded the state of NY, the city of NY, the citizens of NY, and the corporations (including banks) that he did business with, and were convicted in a state (not federal) court.

He has been convicted time after time (Trump University anyone?) for his illegal activities.

There is no whataboutism. He is a grifter, a con, the Don of a mafia family.

And none of the stuff in this thread has anything to do with "conversion to Christianity."

yes it does.he is helping corrupt christianity and using it to fool voters and he is doing a damn fine job.this is the first time i have posted on this board since wednesday or thursday and you are still taking shots? BUT you be sure and tell them why i quit posting articles. and i do not give a damn if you hate my guts but you guys are making fun of a cancer patient when you could have shown class and private messaged. so you tell me who is the bad guy? and folks from now on those it is probably too late but complain to the mods or admins and try to get me banned like some of you have over the years.the mods do not lie.more than one told me but that is our business. and just remember i shut the hell up and you guys still want to bitch. have at it.............

[JMWATS 253]

10 hours ago, AURex said:

All of this is just more right wing WHAT ABOUT ISM! What about Clinton? What about polygraphs?  What about blah-blah-blah.

FACT! Trump sexually assaulted women, was tried in a NY (not federal) court of law on two occasions, and was convicted of sexual assault.

 

 It is not a FACT that Trump was convicted of sexual assault.  Where do people get this stuff?  I mean damn at least check your FACT! before spreading a lie.    

[AUFAN78 4,130]

2 hours ago, JMWATS said:

 It is not a FACT that Trump was convicted of sexual assault.  Where do people get this stuff?  I mean damn at least check your FACT! before spreading a lie.    

https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-carroll-trial-fe68259a4b98bb3947d42af9ec83d7db

[JMWATS 253]

25 minutes ago, AUFAN78 said:

https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-carroll-trial-fe68259a4b98bb3947d42af9ec83d7db

Words mean something.  Show me the word "conviction" in the article.