autigeremt 7,258 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 13 hours ago, homersapien said: Ultimately, the problem is treating healthcare as a elective consumer "product" in a laissez faire capitalistic system. We need to consider is as part of our societal infrastructure. There are other countries with better outcomes and lower costs. We need to study and emulate them. It was the worlds greatest for decades. Maybe there’s more to it than political emulation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 14,527 Posted August 31, 2023 Author Share Posted August 31, 2023 7 hours ago, johnnyAU said: I imagine a significant portion of this issue had to do with either being locked down (being forced to stay at home for school, work, etc... leading to isolation and depression) and some small businesses being devastated and folks losing their jobs and livelihoods. I think that definitely took its own toll. The study I cited, however, showing higher suicide rates in rural areas is from 1999-2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 12,325 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, autigeremt said: It was the worlds greatest for decades. Maybe there’s more to it than political emulation? If another country achieves better outcomes at a lower cost it behooves us to study their system and consider incorporating whatever elements that might improve our system. I would call that common sense more than "political emulation". Edited August 31, 2023 by homersapien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURex 2,278 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 On 8/30/2023 at 1:45 PM, TexasTiger said: I don’t think this is a partisan political issue: https://www.ruralhealthinfo.org/toolkits/suicide/1/rural I’m guessing it’s tied to larger issues of dwindling opportunities and fewer community ties as life becomes more virtual. That is true, and it is deplorable, and I am truly on board with this, BUT, it really has nothing to do with the OP, which was about maternal/natal/neonatal mortality -- i.e., death in childbirth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 14,527 Posted September 1, 2023 Author Share Posted September 1, 2023 44 minutes ago, AURex said: That is true, and it is deplorable, and I am truly on board with this, BUT, it really has nothing to do with the OP, which was about maternal/natal/neonatal mortality -- i.e., death in childbirth. Read it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubiefifty 18,454 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 the shame in all this is unless it is changed we lead in infant deaths in the country. yep bama is number one or was and i doubt it has changed. it is shameful and it breaks my heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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