Missing Hunter whistleblower & would-be star witness found

[Auburnfan91 1,408]

1 hour ago, AU9377 said:

Getting paid by Chinese, Ukrainian,  Peruvian or any other country not subject to U.S. sanctions is not illegal in and of itself.  For FARA to apply, there would need to be some evidence that he represented the foreign country or business interest in some way in their dealings with the U.S. government.

You are not accurately describing the law.

You have to be representing the foreign principal yes, but the dealings with the U.S. government that you mention is not the only factor that's required in order for FARA to apply.

 

 

Hunter agreed to advise a former Chinese official on matters related to US law and advice on hiring and legal analysis from any US Law Firm or Lawyer.

He was not just doing business with Chinese officials, he agreed to help obtain US legal counsel in one his deals. That would absolutely be something FARA would apply for.

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The documents obtained by The Post also include an “Attorney Engagement Letter” executed in September 2017 in which one of Ye’s top lieutenants, former Hong Kong government official Chi Ping Patrick Ho, agreed to pay Biden a $1 million retainer for “Counsel to matters related to US law and advice pertaining to the hiring and legal analysis of any US Law Firm or Lawyer.”

https://nypost.com/2020/10/15/emails-reveal-how-hunter-biden-tried-to-cash-in-big-with-chinese-firm/

Edited July 13, 2023 by Auburnfan91

[AU9377 6,109]

11 hours ago, Auburnfan91 said:

You are not accurately describing the law.

You have to be representing the foreign principal yes, but the dealings with the U.S. government that you mention is not the only factor that's required in order for FARA to apply.

 

 

Hunter agreed to advise a former Chinese official on matters related to US law and advice on hiring and legal analysis from any US Law Firm or Lawyer.

He was not just doing business with Chinese officials, he agreed to help obtain US legal counsel in one his deals. That would absolutely be something FARA would apply for.

https://nypost.com/2020/10/15/emails-reveal-how-hunter-biden-tried-to-cash-in-big-with-chinese-firm/

That is possible.  However, charging FARA under those circumstances would be a more difficult case to prove and likely played into the decision not to charge.  Weiss issued another statement this week that made it very clear that he was not denied the ability to charge in any jurisdiction and clarifying that he never requested to be given special counsel status of any kind. 

Continuing to claim that he was interfered with when he himself refutes that claim is really useless.  This is exactly why he was retained and allowed to conclude his investigation.  Had a Biden U.S. Atty been assigned the investigation, the allegations would have been even louder alleging a cover up.  By continuing, House Republicans are really telling everyone that their actions are nothing but partisan politics and that they don't want justice, but instead want a political prosecution.

[AUFAN78 4,162]

Couple interesting takes on the HB investigation:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/07/09/christie_delaware_us_attorneys_hunter_biden_investigation_was_either_a_lie_or_incompetent.html

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-pee-tape-vs-the-bribe-tape

 

[homersapien 12,310]

On 7/10/2023 at 11:40 PM, Auburnfan91 said:

I wonder how many people realize the guy who's being charged for being a Chinese spy was dealing with the same exact Chinese company Hunter Biden received millions from?

I thought it was "Billions"?   

[homersapien 12,310]

On 7/11/2023 at 5:40 PM, KansasTiger said:

...... maybe I'll have to start acting like it and vote MAGA.

Too late.

[homersapien 12,310]

17 hours ago, Auburnfan91 said:

He was not just doing business with Chinese officials, he agreed to help obtain US legal counsel in one his deals. That would absolutely be something FARA would apply for.

 

I doubt it.

Serving as an interlocutor between a Chinese company and a US law firm is not "lobbying".

[autigeremt 7,256]

This country deserves the cesspool we have. Pitiful to see people defending any of this. 

[CoffeeTiger 5,957]

On 7/11/2023 at 9:24 AM, KansasTiger said:

Guy probably isn't the best source. But there's no thought to how this might be a cover-up? At all? This guy might be a Chinese spy but that doesnt mean he doesnt have dirt on Hunter at the same time. And maybe he's lying and has other motives. But the timing of this indictment is really convienant. And explains why he was missing, cause the left wanted to arrest him before he could whistleblow. But we will never see his evidence now.

 

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/us-attorney-announces-charges-against-co-director-think-tank-acting-unregistered

What's "convenient" about his indictment? He was indicted Nov. 2022, and arrested in Feb 2023 and fled on bail. He made himself a Republican whistleblower while he was already indicted and a fugitive from justice. 

This was all only unsealed last week, it didn't start last week. 

 

On 7/11/2023 at 9:24 AM, KansasTiger said:

 

This comes from a place of distrust for the govt, not just the left. I'm just interested in seeing what he had. Weird how we won't get to now. I know it probably doesn't apply here, but we have whistleblower protections for a reason. Cause guilty people tend to attack them.

 

I don't see how any of this will stop him from showing "what he has". But I'd be skeptical as he doesn't seem to be a very trustworthy or honest person. 

Edited July 14, 2023 by CoffeeTiger

[homersapien 12,310]

9 minutes ago, CoffeeTiger said:

 

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/us-attorney-announces-charges-against-co-director-think-tank-acting-unregistered

What's "convenient" about his indictment? He was indicted Nov. 2022, and arrested in Feb 2023 and fled on bail. He made himself a Republican whistleblower while he was already indicted and a fugitive from justice. 

This was all only unsealed last week, it didn't all start last week.

This is another great example of how good the Republicans are at manipulating their base with lies.

The Republicans on Jordan's committee are currently trumpeting the accusation the FBI is trying to discredit their "whistle blower".  A blatant lie, but if repeated often enough, people will accept it as truth.

Fascist tactics.

[CoffeeTiger 5,957]

4 minutes ago, homersapien said:

This is another great example of how good the Republicans are at manipulating their base with lies.

The Republicans on Jordan's committee are currently trumpeting the accusation the FBI is trying to discredit their "whistle blower".  A blatant lie, but if repeated often enough, people will accept it as truth.

Fascist tactics.

 

"A Lie can travel around the world and back again while the truth is lacing up it's boots." 

Edited July 14, 2023 by CoffeeTiger

[Auburnfan91 1,408]

On 7/13/2023 at 3:26 PM, homersapien said:

I doubt it.

Serving as an interlocutor between a Chinese company and a US law firm is not "lobbying".

This was more than just a discussion. Hunter Biden agreed to represent Patrick Ho for a $1 million retainer. He was rendering a service

Even the New Yorker admitted Hunter was representing Ho in a July 2019 article:

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In the summer of 2017, Ye talked with Hunter about his concern that U.S. law-enforcement agencies were investigating one of his associates, Patrick Ho. Hunter, who sometimes works as a private lawyer, agreed to represent Ho, and tried to figure out whether Ho was in legal jeopardy in the U.S.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/08/will-hunter-biden-jeopardize-his-fathers-campaign

[homersapien 12,310]

On 7/19/2023 at 6:50 PM, Auburnfan91 said:

This was more than just a discussion. Hunter Biden agreed to represent Patrick Ho for a $1 million retainer. He was rendering a service

Even the New Yorker admitted Hunter was representing Ho in a July 2019 article:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/08/will-hunter-biden-jeopardize-his-fathers-campaign

Which is not illegal. Disgraceful?   Scandalous?  Maybe.

Illegal? No.