Pew Poll: World Has Far More Confidence In The US Under Biden Than They Did Under Trump

[CoffeeTiger 5,957]

3 minutes ago, Son of A Tiger said:

What crime has he been arraigned for?

Crime(s)

31 counts of willful retention of national defense information 

1 count of conspiracy to obstruct justice

1 count of Withholding a document 

1 count t of concealing a document 

1 count of concealing a record in a federal investigation

1 count of scheming to conceal 

and 1 count of making false statements

 

 

 

[homersapien 12,310]

40 minutes ago, CoffeeTiger said:

Crime(s)

31 counts of willful retention of national defense information 

1 count of conspiracy to obstruct justice

1 count of Withholding a document 

1 count t of concealing a document 

1 count of concealing a record in a federal investigation

1 count of scheming to conceal 

and 1 count of making false statements

 

 

 

And all he had to so was the exact same thing Biden and Pence did.   But noooooooo.....

Edited June 30, 2023 by homersapien

[Son of A Tiger 649]

4 hours ago, CoffeeTiger said:

Crime(s)

31 counts of willful retention of national defense information 

1 count of conspiracy to obstruct justice

1 count of Withholding a document 

1 count t of concealing a document 

1 count of concealing a record in a federal investigation

1 count of scheming to conceal 

and 1 count of making false statements

 

 

 

But he hasn't been convicted of any of them. If he is guilty then he should be.  I assume you agree Biden should be also.

Edited July 1, 2023 by Son of A Tiger

[SaltyTiger 8,664]

4 hours ago, CoffeeTiger said:

Crime(s)

31 counts of willful retention of national defense information 

1 count of conspiracy to obstruct justice

1 count of Withholding a document 

1 count t of concealing a document 

1 count of concealing a record in a federal investigation

1 count of scheming to conceal 

and 1 count of making false statements

 

 

 

I thought the final count concerns Nauta 

Here is a summary of the counts, which are listed starting on page 28 of the document embedded below:

• Willful retention of national defense information: This charge, covering counts 1-31, only applies to Trump and is for allegedly storing 31 such documents at Mar-a-Lago.
• Conspiracy to obstruct justice: Trump and Nauta, along with others, are charged with conspiring to keep those documents from the grand jury.
• Withholding a document or a record: Trump and Nauta are accused of misleading one of their attorneys by moving boxes of classified documents so the attorney could not find or introduce them to the grand jury.
• Corruptly concealing a document or record: This pertains to the Trump and Nauta's alleged attempts to hide the boxes of classified documents from the attorney.
• Concealing a document in a federal investigation: They are accused of hiding Trump's continued possession of those documents at Mar-a-Lago from the FBI and causing a false certificate to be submitted to the FBI.
• Scheme to conceal: This is for the allegation that Trump and Nauta hid Trump's continued possession of those materials from the FBI and the grand jury.
• False statements and representations: This count concerns statements that Trump allegedly caused another one of his attorneys to make to the FBI and grand jury in early June regarding the results of the search at Mar-a-Lago.
• False statements and representations: This final count accuses Nauta of giving false answers during a voluntary interview with the FBI in late May.

 

 

[AU9377 6,109]

On 6/29/2023 at 9:02 AM, Mikey said:

That worked for Reagan and it worked for Trump. Bad guys fearing an American cowboy is a good thing.

 

On 6/29/2023 at 9:02 AM, Mikey said:

That worked for Reagan and it worked for Trump. Bad guys fearing an American cowboy is a good thing.

How did it work for Trump? Every General that he worked with left their position and thereafter declared that he was unfit to be President. 

[homersapien 12,310]

10 hours ago, Son of A Tiger said:

But he hasn't been convicted of any of them. If he is guilty then he should be.  I assume you agree Biden should be also.

Trump has essentially admitted to most of them, on tape. Biden (and Pence) voluntarily returned the documents they possessed and weren't charged. 

But you're right, there's a good chance he'll get off.  But there's also a chance we will wind up with a president in prison. (See my thread on the David French interview.)

MAGA!