Grassley: Burisma executive who allegedly paid Biden has audio recordings of conversations with Joe, Hunter

[Auburnfan91 1,408]

Grassley: Burisma executive who allegedly paid Biden has audio recordings of conversations with Joe, Hunter

Biden was allegedly paid $5M by a high-level Burisma executive as part of a bribery scheme

By Brooke Singman | Fox News

 

Sen. Chuck Grassley said Monday that the Burisma executive who allegedly paid Joe Biden and Hunter Biden kept 17 audio recordings of his conversations with them as an "insurance policy," citing the FBI FD-1023 form that the bureau briefed congressional lawmakers on. 

Grassley, R-Iowa, revealed from the Senate floor Monday what was said to be a redacted reference in the FBI-generated FD-1023 form alleging a criminal bribery scheme between then-Vice President Joe Biden and a foreign national that involved influence over U.S. policy decisions.

Fox News Digital exclusively reported on the contents of the form last week. The FD-1023 form, dated June 30, 2020, is the FBI's interview with a "highly credible" confidential source who detailed multiple meetings and conversations he or she had with a top Burisma executive over the course of several years, starting in 2015. Fox News Digital has not seen the form, which is redacted, but it was described by several sources who are aware of its contents.

Grassley said the FD-1023 has a redacted reference that the Burisma executive possesses fifteen audio recordings of phone calls between himself and Hunter Biden.

According to Grassley, the FD-1023 also states that the executive possesses two audio recordings of phone calls between himself and then-Vice President Joe Biden.

Grassley, from the Senate floor, slammed the FBI for not complying with the House Oversight Committee’s subpoena, saying Congress "still lacks a full and complete picture with respect to what that document really says."

"That’s why it’s important that the document be made public without unnecessary redactions for the American people to see," he said. "Let me assist for purposes of transparency."

"The 1023 produced to that House Committee redacted reference that the foreign national who allegedly bribed Joe and Hunter Biden allegedly has audio recordings of his conversations with them," Grassley continued. "17 total recordings."

"According to the 1023, the foreign national possesses 15 audio recordings of phone calls between him and Hunter Biden," Grassley said. "According to the 1023, the foreign national possesses two audio recordings of phone calls between him and then-Vice President Joe Biden."

Grassley said the recordings were "allegedly kept as a sort of insurance policy for the foreign national in case he got into a tight spot."

"The 1023 also indicates that then-Vice President Joe Biden may have been involved in Burisma employing Hunter Biden," Grassley said.

Grassley demanded answers on "what, if anything has the Justice Department and FBI done to investigate?"

"The Justice Department and FBI must show their work," Grassley said. "They no longer deserve the benefit of the doubt."

The FBI brought the document to Capitol Hill last week after House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer subpoenaed it last month. The FBI briefed Comer and committee Ranking Member Jamie Raskin, D-Md., on the form in a SCIF on Capitol Hill, but did not turn over the document. Comer threatened to hold FBI Director Christopher Wray in contempt of Congress.

The FBI made a further accommodation and later brought the form to a secure setting on Capitol Hill for all Oversight Committee members to view, but the document is still not in the committee's possession. 

A source familiar told Fox News Digital on Monday that the FBI did not redact the section of the FD-1023 referencing the audio recordings when showing the document to solely to Comer and Raskin, but did so for the full committee briefing. The source said Grassley and Comer had already seen the form, even prior to the FBI sharing it with Congress.

Fox News Digital was exclusively briefed on the contents of the form last week. 

Sources told Fox News Digital that the confidential human source told the FBI that the Burisma executive was speaking with the confidential source to "get advice on the best way to go forward" in 2015 and 2016 in gaining U.S. oil rights and getting involved with a U.S. oil company.

According to the FD-1023 form, the confidential human source said the Burisma executive discussed Hunter’s role on the board. The confidential human source questioned why the Burisma executive needed his or her advice in acquiring access to U.S. oil if he had Hunter Biden on the board. The Burisma executive answered by referring to Hunter Biden as "dumb."

The Burisma executive explained to the confidential source that Burisma had to "pay the Bidens" because Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin was investigating Burisma, and explained how difficult it would be to enter the U.S. market in the midst of that investigation.

The confidential source further detailed that conversation, suggesting to the Burisma executive that he "pay the Bidens $50,000 each," to which the Burisma executive replied, it is "not $50,000," it is "$5 million."

"$5 million for one Biden, $5 million for the other Biden," the Burisma executive told the confidential human source, according to a source familiar with the document.

A source familiar said according to the document, the $5 million payments appeared to reference a kind of "retainer" Burisma intended to pay the Bidens to deal with a number of issues, including the investigation led by Shokin. Another source referred to the arrangement as a "pay-to-play" scheme. 

Sources familiar told Fox News Digital that the confidential human source believes that the $5 million payment to Joe Biden and the $5 million payment to Hunter Biden occurred, based on his or her conversations with the Burisma executive. 

The confidential source said the Burisma executive told him he "paid" the Bidens in such a manner "through so many different bank accounts" that investigators would not be able to "unravel this for at least 10 years."

The document then makes reference to "the Big Guy," which, has been said to be a reference to Joe Biden.

The Burisma executive told the confidential source that he "didn’t pay the Big Guy directly." 

Sources said the Burisma executive appears to be at a "very, very high level" of the company. One source familiar suggested the confidential source could be referring to the head of Burisma, Mykola Zlochevsky, but said the name of the Burisma executive is redacted in the document.

Biden has acknowledged that when he was vice president, he successfully pressured Ukraine to fire prosecutor Viktor Shokin. At the time, Shokin was investigating Burisma Holdings, and at the time, Hunter had a highly-lucrative role on the board receiving thousands of dollars per month. The then-vice president threatened to withhold $1 billion of critical U.S. aid if Shokin was not fired.

The confidential source, according to the sources familiar with the FD-1023 form, told the Burisma executive he should "get away" from the Bidens and said the executive should "not want to be involved" with them.

A source familiar with the document told Fox News Digital that the confidential human source goes on to detail a later conversation with the Burisma executive following the 2016 presidential election. The confidential source asked the Burisma executive if he was "upset" that Donald Trump won.

The source said the Burisma executive told the confidential source that he was "an oracle," referring to his or her advice to "get away" from the Bidens due to fears of potential investigations into their dealings. 

The White House has maintained that President Biden has never been involved in his son's business dealings and has never discussed them with him. And it has noted that removing Shokin was administration policy at the time.

Hunter Biden is currently under federal investigations for his "tax affairs." The investigation began in 2018 and was prompted by suspicious foreign transactions. 

The White House declined to comment, pointing to a statement by Joe Biden Thursday calling the allegations "a bunch of malarky."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/grassley-burisma-executive-who-allegedly-paid-biden-has-audio-recordings-of-conversations-with-joe-hunter

[icanthearyou 4,468]

Rather than all of the posturing,,, why not just play the tapes?  Sounds as though the witness is willing?

Honestly, does this make sense?

[CoffeeTiger 5,914]

😱😱😱Biden! you naughty boy you….😤

[TexasTiger 14,364]

Just show your cards if they’re winners.

[1716AU 797]

Y'know, if he had anything, we ALL would say show us the evidence and let the law take it's course.  So, Mr. Grassley, show us the money.

Reading this article, it's a lot of hearsay.

Quite unlike reading through the Trump indictment.  That is a LOT of evidence, and that coward is staring 526 years of prison in the face.

[Mikey 16,781]

With the DOJ and FBI hiding the cards it's been kind of hard to see them. I expect that very soon now, as these things go, within a month or so, the criminal activities of the Bidens will finally see the light of day. It's a good thing the Pubbies won the House. Had the Dems kept control we never would have known all this.

[DKW 86 7,914]

Wait a minute here. We had four years plus of what eventually amounted to nothing and suddenly some here want to see these documents now?

I wish some of you could hear yourselves. <fer>

I am not saying they are real or not. All I am pointing out is that most of the respondents on this thread took at face value things that later came to be not true for four years. hell some of you still wish and hope and pray for a piss tape 6+ years later...

Edited June 13, 2023 by DKW 86

[aubiefifty 18,306]

24 minutes ago, DKW 86 said:

Wait a minute here. We had four years plus of what eventually amounted to nothing and suddenly some here want to see these documents now?

I wish dome of you could hear yourselves. <fer>

I am not saying they are real or not. All I am pointing out is that most of the respondents on this thread took at face value things that later came to be not true for four years. hell some of you still wish and hope and pray for a piss tape 6+ years later...

yep. they are trying to protect their own brand by saying biden and company are crooks as well. i bet miss cleo knows more about what is going on with biden than the repukes. they came out and said it was not a great look but no laws were broken. that was a year or two ago and i cannot remember which agency said it.

[1716AU 797]

9 hours ago, Mikey said:

With the DOJ and FBI hiding the cards it's been kind of hard to see them. I expect that very soon now, as these things go, within a month or so, the criminal activities of the Bidens will finally see the light of day. It's a good thing the Pubbies won the House. Had the Dems kept control we never would have known all this.

Here is where I know you're nothing but a dishonest broker and a bulls*&Ter.

His first two years he had MAJORITIES in BOTH legislative branches.  Yet did nothing.  After running his mouth all over the campaign trail about it.

His last two years he had a MAJORITY in the Senate, and still, not a peep.

Majorities mean that you have the power and ability to get things done. 

Your opinion has no merit.

 

[Mikey 16,781]

1 minute ago, 1716AU said:

Here is where I know you're nothing but a dishonest broker and a bulls*&Ter.

His first two years he had MAJORITIES in BOTH legislative branches.  Yet did nothing.  After running his mouth all over the campaign trail about it.

His last two years he had a MAJORITY in the Senate, and still, not a peep.

Majorities mean that you have the power and ability to get things done. 

Your opinion has no merit.

 

What train are you riding? This discussion is about people wanting to see documents about Biden's bribery charges, and how the FBI and DOJ have been stonewalling the investigation. This post of yours doesn't make any sense.

[1716AU 797]

Just now, Mikey said:

What train are you riding? This discussion is about people wanting to see documents about Biden's bribery charges, and how the FBI and DOJ have been stonewalling the investigation. This post of yours doesn't make any sense.

One that seems to think critically rather than emotionally and vapidly, as you often present.

[SLAG-91 1,612]

27 minutes ago, 1716AU said:

One that seems to think critically rather than emotionally and vapidly, as you often present.

Your earlier post was a non sequitur.

Rest of the thread: "Should Grassley's statement lead to further investigation?"

1716: "I think Little Debbie Oatmeal Pies are delicious, and the Swiss Rolls are pretty good, too...Banana Twins and Star Crunch? They suck!"

As to whether anything will come of this Burisma information, I doubt it, but it's not because there's no "there" there. Hunter is pretty much a worthless POS without even taking this into account.

Joe just did what any other garden variety money-grubbing politician would do...took care of his own and used his position to exert undue influence. He's nothing special in D.C. in that regard...he's just had multiple generations of practice.

[icanthearyou 4,468]

An opinion piece so,,,

However, interesting in, that it comes from a former Grassley staffer.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/grassley-needs-to-get-his-oversight-focus-back/ar-AA1cuIaf?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=4327dee84b704ab68e71914417a6041a&ei=69

[aubiefifty 18,306]

4 hours ago, DKW 86 said:

Wait a minute here. We had four years plus of what eventually amounted to nothing and suddenly some here want to see these documents now?

I wish dome of you could hear yourselves. <fer>

I am not saying they are real or not. All I am pointing out is that most of the respondents on this thread took at face value things that later came to be not true for four years. hell some of you still wish and hope and pray for a piss tape 6+ years later...

if don is getting tinkled on i would love to see it............grins.

[AU9377 6,057]

Play the tapes.

I'm supposed to believe that this executive has tapes that the FBI knew about while Bill Barr was AG, that these tapes are credible and that the DOJ, under Barr, failed to pursue this and has chosen not to pursue this since Merrick Garland took charge, even though the investigating prosecutor was retained in order to allow him to finish this investigation.

To keep this in perspective, I am supposed to believe this was in existence, yet went unmentioned by Rudy Giuliani or any of the Trump team, while Trump was literally bribing Ukraine to open up an investigation to damage Biden politically.

This sounds more like a smoke bomb being thrown on Aisle 3 to get attention off the theft taking place on Aisle 10.

Edited June 13, 2023 by AU9377

[homersapien 12,262]

4 hours ago, icanthearyou said:

An opinion piece so,,,

However, interesting in, that it comes from a former Grassley staffer.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/grassley-needs-to-get-his-oversight-focus-back/ar-AA1cuIaf?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=4327dee84b704ab68e71914417a6041a&ei=69

"Unlike past oversight campaigns he led that fixed substantive bureaucratic dysfunction, today’s Grassley is indeed waging political battles. Gone are the days when he would launch empirical-laden assaults on misbehaving agencies to fix their broken-down cultures and structures. Now, his dragons are Hillary Clinton, the “Deep State,” Hunter Biden, and Joe Biden. He is closely associating with MAGA elements in Congress, like Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), Reps. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) and James Comer (R-Ky.) who struggle mightily with the concept of credibility.

He also appears to be wading in the bogs with provocateurs and witnesses who so far seem to be credibility-challenged. His biggest grievance is that he can’t get information. Yet, that doesn’t seem to curb the allegations.

Gone, also, are the guardrails handed down by the oversight professionals we would consult with for up to hours each day. Their Rule No. 1 was: Check politics at the door. Score political points by doing the right thing. Pursue good government and the political benefits will follow. He used to follow that religiously."

 

And for all you "Biden is senile" MAGAs, let's not overlook the fact Grassley is 89. 

Edited June 13, 2023 by homersapien

[DKW 86 7,914]

20 hours ago, aubiefifty said:

if don is getting tinkled on i would love to see it............grins.

I actually think that the whole world would love to see it.

[CoffeeTiger 5,914]

https://www.newsweek.com/more-republicans-cast-doubt-joe-biden-tapes-legitimacy-1806803

More Republicans Cast Doubt on Joe Biden Tapes' Legitimacy

Several Republican lawmakers are pumping the brakes on the controversy surrounding the alleged audio recordings of President Joe Biden speaking with a Ukrainian executive who supposedly bribed Biden several years ago.

 

But according to a senior law enforcement official who spoke with NBC News, the accusations contained in the FD-1023 were reviewed by the FBI and a Trump-appointed U.S. attorney when the report was first made in June 2020, and the claims were deemed unsubstantiated.

Republicans themselves are also cautioning to take the information contained in the FD-1023 with heavy skepticism, including House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer, who said during an interview with Newsmax Tuesday, "We don't know if [the tapes are] legit or not."

Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin also spoke with conservative radio show host Vicki McKenna about the allegations against Biden on Tuesday, and cautioned to take the information in the FBI form "with a grain of salt."

"Well, that's what this person says, but again, take that with a grain of salt," Johnson said in response to McKenna bringing up the alleged audio recordings. "This could be coming from a very corrupt oligarch who could be making this stuff up. Until you hear the audio tapes, until you know what the FBI did to investigate it, again, you have to suspend your judgment."

On Wednesday, more Republicans doubted the audio recordings' legitimacy. Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio told radio show host and Newsmax personality Chris Salcedo, "We don't know for sure if these tapes exist."

"If they do, and they say what Senator Grassley has said that he thinks they're going to say, I think it's a different animal," Jordan added.

Still, GOP lawmakers maintain that the allegations against Biden are worthy of notice, and Republicans have raised concerns over the FBI's lack of transparency surrounding how the bureau has looked into the accusations contained in the FD-1023.

[Leftfield 3,388]

10 minutes ago, CoffeeTiger said:

Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin also spoke with conservative radio show host Vicki McKenna about the allegations against Biden on Tuesday, and cautioned to take the information in the FBI form "with a grain of salt."

Geez, when even Ron Johnson says to take something with a grain of salt.....

[homersapien 12,262]

43 minutes ago, CoffeeTiger said:

https://www.newsweek.com/more-republicans-cast-doubt-joe-biden-tapes-legitimacy-1806803

More Republicans Cast Doubt on Joe Biden Tapes' Legitimacy

Several Republican lawmakers are pumping the brakes on the controversy surrounding the alleged audio recordings of President Joe Biden speaking with a Ukrainian executive who supposedly bribed Biden several years ago.

 

But according to a senior law enforcement official who spoke with NBC News, the accusations contained in the FD-1023 were reviewed by the FBI and a Trump-appointed U.S. attorney when the report was first made in June 2020, and the claims were deemed unsubstantiated.

Republicans themselves are also cautioning to take the information contained in the FD-1023 with heavy skepticism, including House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer, who said during an interview with Newsmax Tuesday, "We don't know if [the tapes are] legit or not."

Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin also spoke with conservative radio show host Vicki McKenna about the allegations against Biden on Tuesday, and cautioned to take the information in the FBI form "with a grain of salt."

"Well, that's what this person says, but again, take that with a grain of salt," Johnson said in response to McKenna bringing up the alleged audio recordings. "This could be coming from a very corrupt oligarch who could be making this stuff up. Until you hear the audio tapes, until you know what the FBI did to investigate it, again, you have to suspend your judgment."

On Wednesday, more Republicans doubted the audio recordings' legitimacy. Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio told radio show host and Newsmax personality Chris Salcedo, "We don't know for sure if these tapes exist."

"If they do, and they say what Senator Grassley has said that he thinks they're going to say, I think it's a different animal," Jordan added.

Still, GOP lawmakers maintain that the allegations against Biden are worthy of notice, and Republicans have raised concerns over the FBI's lack of transparency surrounding how the bureau has looked into the accusations contained in the FD-1023.

Don't think Fox will be scrolling this on their news ticker.

[Son of A Tiger 649]

3 hours ago, Leftfield said:

Geez, when even Ron Johnson says to take something with a grain of salt.....

Yep you like those bad old GOPers when they agree with you😀

[Leftfield 3,388]

52 minutes ago, Son of A Tiger said:

Yep you like those bad old GOPers when they agree with you😀

[AURex 2,262]

Okay, there ain't no tapes. We still got ........... nuthin'  hahahaha