these unhinged Republicans are going to get someone killed. is that the plan?

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these unhinged Republicans are going to get someone killed. is that the plan?

what in actual **** is going on?

Jeff Tiedrich

Jun 12

 

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what in actual **** is this?

you could be forgiven for taking this as the dipshit ravings of a dipshit lunatic — because you would be half right: Clay Higgens, wingnut rep from Lousiana, is a dipshit lunatic.

but let’s take a closer look at this tweet. we should be alarmed by it.

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it’s a coded message in militia-speak.

“rPOTUS” refers to Donald Trump, the “real POTUS.” “buckle up,” as in ‘stand back and stand by.’ “1/50k” is the scale used in military maps. “know your bridges.” why? sabotage?

holy s***!

"This isn’t a metaphor. This isn’t slow civil war. This is a congressman calling for the real thing."
“Prepare for war. ‘Know your bridges’ is militia speak for closing them down. County level insurrection.”

it would be nice if we could dismiss Clay Higgins as a lone weirdo. but Republicans have spent the days leading up to tomorrow’s arraignment of Donald Trump calling for a violent response. but Clay has a lot of company.

here’s freelance election denier and professional lunatic Kari Lake, speaking at an event in Georgia:

“I have a message tonight for Merrick Garland, and Jack Smith, and Joe Biden. And the guys back there in the fake news media, you should listen up as well, this one’s for you. If you wanna get to President Trump, you’re gonna have to go through me, and you’re gonna have to go through 75 million Americans just like me. And most of us are card carrying members of the NRA. That’s not a threat, that’s a public service announcement.”

that’s not a threat? holy s***, that’s exactly a threat.

seems to me that if you or I said anything like that, the Secret Service would come knocking on our doors, post ******* haste.

Andy Biggs: “We have now reached a war phase. Eye for an eye.”

Kimberly Guilfoyle: “Retribution Is Coming.”

and what the **** is this s***:

folks, they’re out here trying to turn the arraignment into another January 6th. and they’re not even hding it.

fortunately, law enforcement has taken notice:

Authorities were monitoring plans for pro-Trump rallies in Miami, including one outside the federal courthouse on Tuesday purportedly organized by a local chapter of the Proud Boys, a far-right extremist group, some leaders of which were found guilty of seditious conspiracy in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

be very afraid. it only takes one ******* idiot with a rifle and a misplaced sense of justice to cause a tragedy.

above all, what it to be done about elected officials (and whatever the **** Kimberly Guilfoyle is) openly and brazenly calling for armed insurrection against their own government?

I know that Joe Biden prefers to give the appearance of riding above all this, and there is no shortage of Democrats toeing the “when they go low, we go high” line, but someone needs to address this s***, pronto.

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[aubiefifty 18,259]

why is the right now calling this crap out? mickey and others laugh but we are talking some serious stuff right now. it has escalated in shootings and the jan 6 takeover. trump lying and fools believing it. just proof our education system is turning out idiots...............

[homersapien 12,245]

Perhaps after some people are killed hopefully people like Lake and Guilfoyle will be held accountable.

I will help if Trump is held accountable for Jan. 6.

[aubiefifty 18,259]

news.yahoo.com

 

Trump Supporters’ Violent Rhetoric in His Defense Disturbs Experts

Michael S. Schmidt, Alan Feuer, Maggie Haberman and Adam Goldman

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Rep. Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.) at the Capitol in Washington on Nov. 17, 2022. (Al Drago/The New York Times)

 

The federal indictment of former President Donald Trump has unleashed a wave of calls by his supporters for violence and an uprising to defend him, disturbing observers and raising concerns of a dangerous atmosphere before his court appearance in Miami on Tuesday.

In social media posts and public remarks, close allies of Trump — including a member of Congress — have portrayed the indictment as an act of war, called for retribution and highlighted the fact that much of his base carries weapons. The allies have painted Trump as a victim of a weaponized Justice Department controlled by President Joe Biden, his potential opponent in the 2024 election.

The calls to action and threats have been amplified on right-wing media sites and have been met by supportive responses from social media users and cheers from crowds, who have become conditioned over several years by Trump and his allies to see any efforts to hold him accountable as assaults against him.

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Experts on political violence warn that attacks against people or institutions become more likely when elected officials or prominent media figures are able to issue threats or calls for violence with impunity. The pro-Trump mob that attacked the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, was drawn to Washington in part by a post on Twitter from Trump weeks earlier, promising that it would be “wild.”

The former president alerted the public to the indictment Thursday evening in posts on his social media platform, attacking the Justice Department and calling the case “THE GREATEST WITCH HUNT OF ALL TIME.”

“Eye for an eye,” wrote Rep. Andy Biggs, R-Ariz., in a post on Twitter on Friday. His warning came shortly before the special counsel in the case, Jack Smith, spoke to the public for the first time since he took over the investigation of Trump’s retention of classified documents.

On Instagram, Trump’s eldest son’s fiancée, Kimberly Guilfoyle, posted a photo of the former president with the words, “Retribution Is Coming,” in all capital letters.

In Georgia, at the Republican state convention, Kari Lake, who refused to concede the Arizona election for governor in 2022 and who is an ardent defender of Trump, emphasized that many of Trump’s supporters owned guns.

“I have a message tonight for Merrick Garland and Jack Smith and Joe Biden — and the guys back there in the fake news media, you should listen up as well, this one is for you,” Lake said. “If you want to get to President Trump, you are going to have go through me, and you are going to have to go through 75 million Americans just like me. And I’m going to tell you, most of us are card-carrying members of the NRA.”

The crowd cheered.

Lake added: “That’s not a threat, that’s a public service announcement.”

Political violence experts say that even if aggressive language by high-profile individuals does not directly end in physical harm, it creates a dangerous atmosphere in which the idea of violence becomes more accepted, especially if such rhetoric is left unchecked.

“So far, the politicians who have used this rhetoric to inspire people to violence have not been held accountable,” said Mary McCord, a former senior Justice Department official who has studied the ties between extremist rhetoric and violence. “Until that happens, there’s little deterrent to using this type of language.”

The language used by some right-wing media figures was more stark.

On Pete Santilli’s talk show, the conservative provocateur declared that if he were the commandant of the Marine Corps, he would order “every single Marine” to grab Biden, “throw him in freakin’ zip ties in the back of a freakin’ pickup truck,” and “get him out of the White House.”

One of his guests, Lance Migliaccio, said that if it were legal and he had access, he would “probably walk in and shoot” Gen. Mark A. Milley, chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and someone Trump has identified as one of his enemies.

So far, the reactions from Trump’s supporters have been more intense and explicit than those expressed after Trump was indicted in a separate case by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg in late March.

Shortly before that indictment, Trump posted an article on Truth Social, his social media platform, that included a photo of himself holding a baseball bat on one side, and Bragg in an adjacent photo. Dueling crowds of pro-Trump and anti-Trump protesters appeared in lower Manhattan when Trump was arraigned there in April.

On Saturday, in his first public remarks since the latest indictment on seven charges related to the retention of classified documents and efforts to obstruct justice, Trump attacked those investigating him as engaged in “demented persecution.”

The FBI has been the target of much criticism from far-right Republican lawmakers and the former president’s supporters. In the wake of the heated partisanship, FBI field offices are reporting all threats related to their personnel or facilities to the Washington headquarters, in an unusual step. A law enforcement familiar with the move said the FBI was trying to get a handle on the number of threats around the country directed at the agency.

Despite whatever security precautions are taken for Trump’s appearance Tuesday, security experts said that the rhetoric and the threats from it were unlikely to subside and would likely become more pronounced as the case moves forward and the 2024 election nears.

“Rhetoric like this has consequences,” said Timothy J. Heaphy, the lead investigator for the select House committee that investigated the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol and Trump’s efforts to remain in the White House after his presidency. “People who we interviewed for the Jan. 6 investigation said they came to the Capitol because politicians and the president told them to be there. Politicians think that when they say things it’s just rhetoric, but people listen to it and take it seriously. In this climate politicians need to realize this and be more responsible.”

On Instagram on Saturday morning, Trump posted a mashup video of himself swinging a golf club on the course and an animation of a golf ball hitting Biden in the head, superimposed with footage of Biden falling at a public event in recent days after he tripped over something onstage.

It was hardly the first time that figures on the right have issued calls for war or violence to support the former president, or the first time that Trump has appeared to summon his supporters to amass on his behalf.

In the days leading up to the attack on the Capitol, the notion that a civil war was drawing near was prevalent in right-wing circles. Extremist leaders like Stewart Rhodes, the founder of the Oath Keepers militia, and Enrique Tarrio, chair of the Proud Boys, often rallied their groups with incendiary references to the cleansing violence of the American Revolution. Both men have been convicted of sedition in connection with the Capitol attack.

More broadly, on far-right websites, people shared tactics and techniques for attacking the building and discussed building gallows and trapping lawmakers in tunnels there.

The recent bout of warlike language coming in response to Trump’s indictment echoed what took place among Republican officials and media figures last summer after the FBI searched Mar-a-Lago, Trump’s private club and residence in Florida, as part of the documents investigation and hauled away about 100 classified records.

“This. Means. War,” The Gateway Pundit, a pro-Trump outlet, wrote at the time, setting the tone for others. Hours later, Joe Kent, a Trump-endorsed House candidate in Washington state, went on a podcast run by Stephen Bannon, Trump’s onetime political adviser, and declared, “This just shows everyone what many of us have been saying for a very long time. We’re at war.”

Indeed, within days of the heated language that followed the search of Mar-a-Lago, an Ohio man armed with a semi-automatic rifle tried to breach the FBI field office near Cincinnati and wound up killed in a shootout with local police.

c.2023 The New York Times Company

[aubiefifty 18,259]

1 minute ago, homersapien said:

Perhaps after some people are killed hopefully people like Lake and Guilfoyle will be held accountable.

I will help if Trump is held accountable for Jan. 6.

man i just posted another one on violence. the fact these people are calling out for violence is so disturbing to me.

[icanthearyou 4,468]

You have to have a civil conflict in order to impose authoritarianism.  You have to demonize those who have any disagreement with you.

[Son of A Tiger 649]

57 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

man i just posted another one on violence. the fact these people are calling out for violence is so disturbing to me.

I don't recall you being disturbed by the BLM or Antifa violent protests.

[icanthearyou 4,468]

3 minutes ago, Son of A Tiger said:

I don't recall you being disturbed by the BLM or Antifa violent protests.

Those are not protests based on denying rights, speech, basic humanity to others.

[Son of A Tiger 649]

7 minutes ago, icanthearyou said:

Those are not protests based on denying rights, speech, basic humanity to others.

Calls for violent protests are wrong no matter what the cause. 

Last I checked this woman isn't a Republican:

Maxine Waters Calls For Riots to Continue: We Must Stay in the Streets (townhall.com)

 

Edited June 12, 2023 by Son of A Tiger

[aubiefifty 18,259]

6 minutes ago, Son of A Tiger said:

I don't recall you being disturbed by the BLM or Antifa violent protests.

we discussed them for quite a while. where the hell were you at?  i know i hurt your feelings. you will never admit to any trump wrong doing concerning trump. he stole for childrens cancer charity and he also stole from the VA charity. this is fact. i have posted the articles at least once but i think twice. are you a patriot? then how can you take up for that turd? or are you just a patriot when it suites you? the man has broken the law many times and you guys give him a pass. why is that? do you hate soldiers? because you are enabling him. he is a rapist. he beat and raped one of his ex wives. he was convicted of fraud from his phony uni. i mean my god how much crap does he have to do before you hold him accountable? i want to hear your take on it. because if it fake news according to you then you are a dumb as a box of rocks. trump has NO ONE T^O BLAME BUT HIMSELF. he is a damn crook and you guys give him a pass. hell he has made fun of his supporters and that was ok too. i posted that article. so tell me why we are wrong about trump? he did break the law. is he supposed to be allowed to do that as president? i am on pins and needles but you never reply to the truth because then you have to admit you are wrong.

[Son of A Tiger 649]

I think some Democrats here have a short memory.

Dems Pause January 6 Hearings To Call For Insurrection | Babylon Bee

[Son of A Tiger 649]

2 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

we discussed them for quite a while. where the hell were you at?  i know i hurt your feelings. you will never admit to any trump wrong doing concerning trump. he stole for childrens cancer charity and he also stole from the VA charity. this is fact. i have posted the articles at least once but i think twice. are you a patriot? then how can you take up for that turd? or are you just a patriot when it suites you? the man has broken the law many times and you guys give him a pass. why is that? do you hate soldiers? because you are enabling him. he is a rapist. he beat and raped one of his ex wives. he was convicted of fraud from his phony uni. i mean my god how much crap does he have to do before you hold him accountable? i want to hear your take on it. because if it fake news according to you then you are a dumb as a box of rocks. trump has NO ONE T^O BLAME BUT HIMSELF. he is a damn crook and you guys give him a pass. hell he has made fun of his supporters and that was ok too. i posted that article. so tell me why we are wrong about trump? he did break the law. is he supposed to be allowed to do that as president? i am on pins and needles but you never reply to the truth because then you have to admit you are wrong.

Where am I defending Trump? I'm NOT a fan of the man. I am simply pointing out that calls for violence are not limited to Republicans but I think your bias is so strong it's difficult to be open minded and often just plain uncivil.

[aubiefifty 18,259]

4 minutes ago, Son of A Tiger said:

Calls for violent protests are wrong no matter what the cause. 

Last I checked this woman isn't a Republican:

Maxine Waters Calls For Riots to Continue: We Must Stay in the Streets (townhall.com)

i do not agree with ms max but she did it because blacks are being murdered in cold blood on the streets. when justice is denied history will teach you people always rise up. but no i am an old hippy that loves love and non violence. violence is the fruti of ignorance and that holds true for you guys. hell how many schools and churches have we shotup and blown the faces off of children. the left had one trans and yall glorify over that. but how many has the right had? and when you kill children you are murdering innocents and not anyone that has a damn thing to do with anything. how many  deaths has maxine been responsible for? they cannot get justice. trump is getting justice and yall will be killing more folks when trump deserves what he gets...............

[homersapien 12,245]

5 minutes ago, Son of A Tiger said:

I think some Democrats here have a short memory.

Dems Pause January 6 Hearings To Call For Insurrection | Babylon Bee

Seriously? 

[aubiefifty 18,259]

5 minutes ago, Son of A Tiger said:

I think some Democrats here have a short memory.

Dems Pause January 6 Hearings To Call For Insurrection | Babylon Bee

ok how many did they hurt or kill doing it? big difference.

[aubiefifty 18,259]

2 minutes ago, Son of A Tiger said:

Where am I defending Trump? I'm NOT a fan of the man. I am simply pointing out that calls for violence are not limited to Republicans but I think your bias is so strong it's difficult to be open minded and often just plain uncivil.

yes you are with all this bull about unfairness and all that crap. trump has it coming and brought it ALL on himself. it has finally caught up with him and he will go down as the most disgraced pres in history. you know as well as i do if you are not lying he deserves what he is getting. and he will get off light. mark my words.

[homersapien 12,245]

1 minute ago, aubiefifty said:

yes you are with all this bull about unfairness and all that crap. trump has it coming and brought it ALL on himself. it has finally caught up with him and he will go down as the most disgraced pres in history. you know as well as i do if you are not lying he deserves what he is getting. and he will get off light. mark my words.

But, but, but  ANTIFA!!   BLM!!

[Son of A Tiger 649]

3 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

ok how many did they hurt or kill doing it? big difference.

I only gave you one example. Surely you don't deny that people have been hurt and property destroyed in many violent protests in recent times.

[aubiefifty 18,259]

Just now, Son of A Tiger said:

I only gave you one example. Surely you don't deny that people have been hurt and property destroyed in many violent protests in recent times.

oh i am sure some might have been hurt.  i know buildings were burned down. but these folks think they are literally fighting for their lives whil you guys are fighting the biggest fraud in the free world.

[Son of A Tiger 649]

4 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

yes you are with all this bull about unfairness and all that crap. trump has it coming and brought it ALL on himself. it has finally caught up with him and he will go down as the most disgraced pres in history. you know as well as i do if you are not lying he deserves what he is getting. and he will get off light. mark my words.

So I assume you think Biden is Mr. Clean.

[icanthearyou 4,468]

17 minutes ago, Son of A Tiger said:

Calls for violent protests are wrong no matter what the cause. 

Last I checked this woman isn't a Republican:

Maxine Waters Calls For Riots to Continue: We Must Stay in the Streets (townhall.com)

 

I'm not talking about partisan politics.  I'm talking about the legitimacy of the cause. 

You have to be genuine.  You have to understand that most peaceful protests have a violent element on the fringes.

[Son of A Tiger 649]

Just now, aubiefifty said:

oh i am sure some might have been hurt.  i know buildings were burned down. but these folks think they are literally fighting for their lives whil you guys are fighting the biggest fraud in the free world.

Who are "you guys?"

[Son of A Tiger 649]

Just now, icanthearyou said:

I'm not talking about partisan politics.  I'm talking about the legitimacy of the cause. 

You have to be genuine.  You have to understand that most peaceful protests have a violent element on the fringes.

I think there is a whole lot of rationalization going on in these posts so I will just cool it and move on.

 

[homersapien 12,245]

11 minutes ago, Son of A Tiger said:

I only gave you one example. Surely you don't deny that people have been hurt and property destroyed in many violent protests in recent times.

You have done nothing but equivocate and prevaricate over the seriousness of what these Republican politicians are doing.

Do you agree with them?

Edited June 12, 2023 by homersapien

[Leftfield 3,380]

13 minutes ago, homersapien said:

Seriously? 

Wait a minute....was that link posted unironically?

There's no way.....