So fox news gets busted for lying about the elections

[aubiefifty 18,259]

why was trump not included in the lawsuit? am i wrong thinking he lied about the voting machines as well? why are not mike rogers and others who stood with trump to overthrow the election not being prosecuted? i know they are repubs but the law is the law. we are too lenient.

[Mikey 16,781]

24 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

why was trump not included in the lawsuit? am i wrong thinking he lied about the voting machines as well? why are not mike rogers and others who stood with trump to overthrow the election not being prosecuted? i know they are repubs but the law is the law. we are too lenient.

It was settled out of court. Nobody "got busted". The machines may or may not be honest but that doesn't really matter. The shame of the nation is that somewhere around 70 million other American voters ignored the predictable consequences deliberately voted for Biden. This because Trump sent mean tweets. They got the disaster that they deserve.

[aubiefifty 18,259]

1 minute ago, Mikey said:

It was settled out of court. Nobody "got busted". The machines may or may not be honest but that doesn't really matter. The shame of the nation is that somewhere around 70 million other American voters ignored the predictable consequences deliberately voted for Biden. This because Trump sent mean tweets. They got the disaster that they deserve.

that dog wqill not hunt and that is as close to a lie as i have EVER heard form you. you should be ashamed. that was stupid. look i will argue with you all day but lets try being honest.. they lied and got caught and people are losing their jobs. i hate peopl playing around with the truth mikey. i like you but i am disappointed.

[Mikey 16,781]

1 minute ago, aubiefifty said:

that dog wqill not hunt and that is as close to a lie as i have EVER heard form you. you should be ashamed. that was stupid. look i will argue with you all day but lets try being honest.. they lied and got caught and people are losing their jobs. i hate peopl playing around with the truth mikey. i like you but i am disappointed.

This isn't the first time I've posted that the nation's shame is the other 70 million who ignored Biden's failures and ethical problems and put us in this mess. I'll give that the Dems probably stole a few million votes, they have a proud history of that. https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB124182750646102435

It's not the few million they stole, it's the other misguided voters who brought this Biden disaster on our nation.

[aubaseball 2,828]

Yet, he completely forgets that CNN, MSNBC and other outlets lied on the air for 4 years.   Why isn’t he in an uproar over that?  Plus, it’s a civil matter not criminal.   

[aubiefifty 18,259]

3 hours ago, Mikey said:

This isn't the first time I've posted that the nation's shame is the other 70 million who ignored Biden's failures and ethical problems and put us in this mess. I'll give that the Dems probably stole a few million votes, they have a proud history of that. https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB124182750646102435

It's not the few million they stole, it's the other misguided voters who brought this Biden disaster on our nation.

wow. the thief known as trump who stole from a childrens and vets charity and had to shut it down. we are talking stealing money from wounded vets. i have already posted that articl twice that i can remember here but you keep your head buried in the sand. he killed the budget givng 150 billion  dollars in tax cuts while kids go hungry. it is a bad look mikey and i cannot say anything different. these people have played you for a fool and you do not even know it. just wow.

[aubiefifty 18,259]

32 minutes ago, aubaseball said:

Yet, he completely forgets that CNN, MSNBC and other outlets lied on the air for 4 years.   Why isn’t he in an uproar over that?  Plus, it’s a civil matter not criminal.   

if you are talking about me at least use my name. i do not listen to cnn or any of them. i watch local and peruse news online. but let me say something. when msnbc screwed up they came back live and admitted it and corrected it. when fox lies and gets caught they just tell more lies. and i need a link by the way. you show me proof they ALL lied for four years. that is just your opinion and it is a bad one at that. you and mikey are part of what is wrong with this country. i have stated a hundred times on here if the bidens are guilty of something then get them. you guys problem is yal are either not well educated or just plain stupid. trump used all of you like a tool to better himself and boy did he. you do not like biden? pick a better candidate because he stomped trumps ass and in fact got the most votes in the history of our elections.

[Mikey 16,781]

1 hour ago, aubiefifty said:

trump used all of you like a tool to better himself and boy did he.

Trump was a billionaire before he entered politics. He didn't need to better himself in WDC. If you want to see some who bettered themselves through public office, start with Biden and Pelosi.

[aubiefifty 18,259]

3 minutes ago, Mikey said:

Trump was a billionaire before he entered politics. He didn't need to better himself in WDC. If you want to see some who bettered themselves through public office, start with Biden and Pelosi.

you really do not have a clue do you? read something besides propaganda sometime. we know he had money mikey but he wants more. and he has played the lost election crap receiving millions in donations. go read my thread where i proved you were lying. it has your name on it.

Edited April 21, 2023 by aubiefifty

[Mikey 16,781]

5 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

you really do not have a clue do you? read something besides propaganda sometime. we know he had money mikey but he wants more. and he has played the lost election crap receiving millions in donations. go read my thread where i proved you were lying. it has your name on it.

He got millions in donations to run again. That money can't be used for personal gain. Those multi-millions that the Bidens collected from the Chinese now, and the multi-millions Pelosi gained from illegal insider knowledge in the stock market, those were personal monies.

[aubiefifty 18,259]

Just now, Mikey said:

He got millions in donations to run again. That money can't be used for personal gain. Those multi-millions that the Bidens collected from the Chinese now, and the multi-millions Pelosi gained from illegal insider knowledge in the stock market, those were personal monies.

jesus mikey he is going to court for paying off his ugly hooker with campaign contributions. and cohn is not the only one who ratted him out. what........you think he is going to court over buying a hooker...........lmao. thats rich................have you gone to the green thread like i asked? i had to prove you wrong. are you not man enough to admit you are wrong? come on man..........

[Mikey 16,781]

1 minute ago, aubiefifty said:

jesus mikey he is going to court for paying off his ugly hooker with campaign contributions. and cohn is not the only one who ratted him out. what........you think he is going to court over buying a hooker...........lmao. thats rich................have you gone to the green thread like i asked? i had to prove you wrong. are you not man enough to admit you are wrong? come on man..........

That hooker has had to pay Trump over $100,000 in damages. https://apnews.com/article/stormy-daniels-trump-defamation-lawsuit-0ee5623fc8965ad3d2fc77a7126d24c7   

Chon, a convicted and admitted liar himself is this kangaroo court's star witness? The case would never have been brought in an honest court and I think everyone knows that.

[aubiefifty 18,259]

21 minutes ago, Mikey said:

He got millions in donations to run again. That money can't be used for personal gain. Those multi-millions that the Bidens collected from the Chinese now, and the multi-millions Pelosi gained from illegal insider knowledge in the stock market, those were personal monies.

if this was true the repukes would be all over her. she was worth almost four mil before she ran for office. you do not think she and her hubs do not know how to invest. show me proof and not talking points and i will agree. this is more than fair. you made the accusations so back them up or let it go.

[arein0 1,105]

58 minutes ago, Mikey said:

the multi-millions Pelosi gained from illegal insider knowledge in the stock market, those were personal monies.

This is the case with most politicians, Republicans and Democrats alike, and will continue to happen until they ban it. Problem is why would they ban it when most are taking advantage of it?

[arein0 1,105]

12 minutes ago, arein0 said:

This is the case with most politicians, Republicans and Democrats alike, and will continue to happen until they ban it. Problem is why would they ban it when most are taking advantage of it?

I stand corrected. Looks like they are trying to ban individual stock for members of congress. I know there was a proposal last year that failed. Hopefully this one will pass.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3911300-bipartisan-lawmakers-introduce-bill-to-ban-members-from-owning-trading-stocks/

[aubiefifty 18,259]

Just now, arein0 said:

I stand corrected. Looks like they are trying to ban individual stock for members of congress. I know there was a proposal last year that failed. Hopefully this one will pass.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3911300-bipartisan-lawmakers-introduce-bill-to-ban-members-from-owning-trading-stocks/

to serve this country you should have to make great sacrifices not make your country sacrifice stuff for your personal gain.

[arein0 1,105]

Just now, aubiefifty said:

to serve this country you should have to make great sacrifices not make your country sacrifice stuff for your personal gain.

I don't have any problems with them investing in ETF or mutual funds since they are very diversified and they have no control of the portfolio. There is just too much conflict of interest and inside information to own individual stocks

[Mikey 16,781]

On 4/20/2023 at 11:53 PM, aubiefifty said:

to serve this country you should have to make great sacrifices not make your country sacrifice stuff for your personal gain.

That's what Trump did. Biden and Pelosi, not so much.

[arein0 1,105]

48 minutes ago, Mikey said:

That's what Trump did. Biden and Pelosi, not so much.

I'd love to hear how you came to this conclusion. 

[Mikey 16,781]

5 minutes ago, arein0 said:

I'd love to hear how you came to this conclusion. 

Easy. Trump was already a billionaire, he didn't need a political position to get rich.

[arein0 1,105]

4 minutes ago, Mikey said:

Easy. Trump was already a billionaire, he didn't need a political position to get rich.

So just jumping to conclusions with no facts. Got it.

[aubiefifty 18,259]

1 hour ago, Mikey said:

That's what Trump did. Biden and Pelosi, not so much.

i call bullsh*t. i am not gonna play these little games with you mikey. get back to me when you can admit some truths.

[homersapien 12,244]

4 hours ago, Mikey said:

That's what Trump did. Biden and Pelosi, not so much.

That's crazy

Trump originally decided to run because he saw the business opportunity.

And he's made millions off it.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/20/trump-businesses-empire-tied-presidency-100496

How Trump fused his business empire to the presidency

As Trump kicks off his fourth year as president with an impeachment trial tied to his actions involving Ukraine, critics say the president has yet to face accountability for blatant conflicts of interest tied to his private businesses.

By Anita Kumar

01/20/2020

He has spent one out of every three days as president visiting one of his luxury resorts, hotels or golf courses. He has leveraged his powerful international platform to promote his developments dozens of times. And he has directed millions of dollars from U.S. taxpayers to his businesses around the globe.

In three years in the White House, Donald Trump has accomplished something no president before him has done: fusing his private business interests with America’s highest public office.

Trump’s early decision to maintain his grip on his sprawling real estate empire — despite his pledge to put his business aside while in the White House — has created a vast web of potential conflicts of interest, accusations about his policies being driven by his business interests and even possible violations of the law, according to documents and interviews.

Even as Trump kicks off his fourth year as president this week facing the stain of an impeachment trial, he has managed to skirt accountability for widespread possible conflicts of interest that critics say represent a blatant abuse of power and create dangerous risks to the integrity of the presidency.

The intersections between Trump Inc. and President Trump are everywhere: A Chinese state-owned company was awarded a multimillion dollar contract to help develop a Trump golf course in Dubai, United Arab Emirates, amid a U.S.-China trade war. T-Mobile executives stayed at Trump’s Washington hotel while seeking a green light from the federal government for a merger. The IRS commissioner, who refused to release Trump’s tax returns to Congress, collects rent from a pair of Trump condos in Hawaii.

And in recent weeks, even Trump’s staunchest allies bluntly acknowledged that the president had left his own properties vulnerable to attacks by Iran after his order to kill the country’s top general.

“The level of this is shocking and deeply disturbing,” Rep. David Cicilline (D-R.I.), a member of House leadership who serves on the Judiciary Committee. “This president has a habit of doing things out in the open, which are completely improper or even illegal and somehow ... the average person thinks, ‘Well, if he’s doing it out in the open it must be OK; I must not completely understand the rules.’ But it’s not.”

“This president has a habit of doing things out in the open, which are completely improper or even illegal and somehow ... the average person thinks, ‘Well, if he’s doing it out in the open it must be OK.’”

Rep. David Cicilline (D-R.I.)

The White House and the Trump Organization didn’t respond to requests for comment.

Even after Congress launched an investigation into his businesses, the Trump administration authorized foreign governments to rent condos in Trump World Tower in New York, according to previously unreported documents obtained through a public records lawsuit by American Oversight, a watchdog group engaging with Congress on oversight of the administration.

Trump, already facing an impeachment trial while campaigning for a second term in office, is saddled with an unprecedented onslaught of investigations and lawsuits, many alleging he is violating the law by accepting money from U.S. taxpayers and foreign governments, both of which are forbidden by the emoluments clause of the Constitution.

The House launched an investigation last year, demanding the administration and Trump’s company release details about Vice President Mike Pence’s 2019 stay at a Trump resort in Ireland that came at the president’s suggestion. While they refused, new records obtained by POLITICO show the Irish police spent at least $4,000 at Trump Doonbeg while covering Pence’s visit — on top of $145,000 for other visits.

Lawmakers eventually cut the allegations out of their articles of impeachment, choosing to narrowly focus on Trump pushing Ukraine to open an inquiry into Democratic political rival Joe Biden. But lawmakers say they will continue to investigate to try to stop Trump from profiting from the presidency, force him to repay taxpayer money and prevent further conflicts.

“President Trump is openly enriching himself by encouraging government entities to spend money at his businesses, and foreign entities appear to frequent his business to curry favor with this administration,” said House Oversight and Reform Chairwoman Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y). “President Trump must be held accountable for his blatant disregard for the Constitution.”

Trump ignored calls to fully separate from his eponymous company, which comprises more than 500 businesses and includes properties in nearly two dozen countries, after he was sworn in to office.

Sheri Dillon, a lawyer for the Trump Organization, said in January 2017 that Trump “wants there to be no doubt in the minds of the American public that he is completely isolating himself from his business interests.”

That never happened. Trump still owns his business, though he asked his adult sons to run it. His holdings were placed in a trust designed to hold assets for his benefit from which he can draw money at any time without the public’s knowledge.

Trump has responded to repeated criticism by denying he is using the presidency to boost spending at his resorts, insisting people frequent them because “they’re the best” and calling the emoluments clause “phony.”

“It’s not a big deal — you people are making it a big deal,” he told reporters in December 2016. Trump joined others in his administration who argued that voters don’t care. “They all knew I had big business all over the place.”

In 2015, Trump famously rode down the escalator of Trump Tower in New York and launched his candidacy. It was a sign of what was to come.

Trump has visited his properties more than 350 times since he was sworn in to office 1,095 days ago, according to a compilation of information released by the White House.

He regularly visits his golf course in Sterling, Va., just outside Washington, and also travels to his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Fla., in the winter and to Bedminster, N.J., in the summer. On Friday, Trump left for Mar-a-Lago, where he held a closed Republican fundraiser, and returned to Washington on Sunday night.

Trump is losing money on many of his businesses, but revenue increased at some of the resorts he visited in 2018, according to his most recent personal financial disclosure forms. That comes even as Trump’s overall income dipped slightly, to $434 million in 2018 from $450 million in 2017.

Trump has promoted his properties dozens of times while in office, mentioning them in official remarks, everywhere from the United Nations to the Oval Office, and in tweets to his more than 60 million followers, with the frequency increasing each year he’s been president.

In March, he tweeted about Trump International Scotland, melding his businesses and his presidency in the message. “Very proud of perhaps the greatest golf course anywhere in the world. Also, furthers U.K. relationship!”

Trump announced last year that he planned to hold the 2020 G-7 world leaders’ summit at his financially struggling Trump National Doral Miami resort. But he reversed course after days of intense scrutiny from Democrats and Republicans, who complained he would be lining his pockets with both U.S. and foreign government money.

Trump and his adult children have been criticized for frequenting Trump resorts around the globe on vacation and on business trips, forcing the Secret Service and other federal agencies accompanying them to spend taxpayer money at Trump properties.

The Secret Service spent more than $250,000 at Trump properties during a five-month period in 2017, according to documents, providing a hint of what it may have spent over the three years of his presidency. There’s no way to determine how much in total the administration is spending because no single entity tracks that money.

But Democrats say Trump’s decision to accept foreign government money is where they may have the most leverage.

More than 100 officials and groups from 57 foreign countries have made visits to a Trump property, according to Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, a government watchdog group. Trump even invited leaders of seven countries to meet with him at Mar-a-Lago.

And state-owned companies in China, Saudi Arabia and South Korea are building Trump resorts while other countries are constructing roads and donating public land for new developments — all potential violations of the Constitution.

More than 200 Democrats filed a lawsuit in 2017 alleging Trump is violating the emoluments clause through foreign payments received at his properties. The House even launched an investigation into allegations that groups — including at least one foreign government — tried to curry favor with Trump by booking rooms at his hotels but never staying in them.

Meanwhile, Republicans are flocking to his resorts, perhaps to ingratiate themselves to the president or just run into him.

Nearly 200 campaigns and political groups — virtually all conservative — have spent more than $8 million at Trump’s resorts and other businesses since his election in 2016, according to a report from the left-leaning consumer rights group Public Citizen released late last year. In addition, at least 285 top administration officials, more than 90 members of Congress and 47 state officials — some using taxpayer money — have made hundreds of visits, according to CREW.

In the nation’s capital, Trump’s hotel has become a place to see and be seen for candidates, Trump staffers and lawmakers. Trump leases the building from the federal government despite language in the contract that says no “elected official of the Government of the United States ... shall be admitted to any share or part of this Lease, or to any benefit that may arise therefrom.”

Rep. Dina Titus (D-Nev.), chairwoman of the House Transportation and Infrastructure subcommittee with jurisdiction over the hotel, is demanding documents from the Trump administration about the hotel’s looming potential sale to try to stop a questionable transaction, such as one that involves a foreign buyer.

“I think this is one of those problems of his own making,” she said. “He said he was going to divest, and then he didn’t divest, and then he put it in his children’s name and he’s kept on doing business.”

Edited April 22, 2023 by homersapien

[homersapien 12,244]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/us-money-blog/2016/sep/29/donald-trump-businessman-president-election-2016

Trump's business motives are what would make him a dangerous president

As seen during the first debate, Trump seems to put a priority on serving himself rather than serving others, and enriching himself rather than sharing his riches

[aubiefifty 18,259]

1 minute ago, homersapien said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/us-money-blog/2016/sep/29/donald-trump-businessman-president-election-2016

Trump's business motives are what would make him a dangerous president

As seen during the first debate, Trump seems to put a priority on serving himself rather than serving others, and enriching himself rather than sharing his riches

can i correct this? Trumps criminal motives are what makes him a dangerous president.