Jimmy Rane

[AU-24 3,130]

7 hours ago, cbo said:

I personally found the clearly slanted story of a billionaire to be very moving. Tears in my eyes. 

Do we like the PTB now? I'm just asking because I've heard them blamed for everything on this site for years. Trying to keep up. 

So at what point is a wealthy person considered bad? When their net worth is over $200,000 or maybe 1 million, over 100 million, over 1 billion, when is it they automatically become a bad person? You and your buddy on here love Deion Sanders, and he is a multi, multi millionaire, does that make him a bad person? 

[NWALA Tiger 3,705]

2 hours ago, AU-24 said:

So at what point is a wealthy person considered bad? When their net worth is over $200,000 or maybe 1 million, over 100 million, over 1 billion, when is it they automatically become a bad person? You and your buddy on here love Deion Sanders, and he is a multi, multi millionaire, does that make him a bad person? 

Alot of folks don't like to see anyone be successful.  It's the victim syndrome... The Ole " Why him and not me". 

[AU80cruiser 1,102]

It seemed most of this board hated him when Gus was fired and wanted him out of the way when hiring the next coach but we came crawling back with our hands out when Harsin sank the ship. This piece just gave a glimpse into the life of a man that had enough business sense to capitalize on his situation to become a billionaire and is doing some good things for his community, i.e., restoring Abbeville's down town and creating scholarships for kids. Not to mention all the things he has done and is doing for Auburn. I'm sure there are people that feel like they got the short end of the stick dealing with Rane in the past or even currently, idk. And yes, the video was one sided and I think most ppl realize that but why crap on the man unless you have something specific to crap on him about?

Edited April 13, 2023 by AU80cruiser

[W.E.D 11,071]

5 hours ago, AU-24 said:

So at what point is a wealthy person considered bad? When their net worth is over $200,000 or maybe 1 million, over 100 million, over 1 billion, when is it they automatically become a bad person? You and your buddy on here love Deion Sanders, and he is a multi, multi millionaire, does that make him a bad person? 

5 million.  

[cole256 17,085]

5 hours ago, AU-24 said:

So at what point is a wealthy person considered bad? When their net worth is over $200,000 or maybe 1 million, over 100 million, over 1 billion, when is it they automatically become a bad person? You and your buddy on here love Deion Sanders, and he is a multi, multi millionaire, does that make him a bad person? 

Nothing like those big bad passive aggressive warriors lol. You almost asked a great question though, why are there so many in this thread that are so protective of this guy but were so adamant to crap on another man? I could point several of you that have already contradicted yourselves as you yourself made a point to keep negatively posting about Sanders. 

 

Let me guess you didn't want Sanders so you can't say anything bad about a guy that you agree with. But when you didn't agree it was cool for you to say stuff, but now you are against anybody saying something. 

[W.E.D 11,071]

Februrary 2022:

• Jimmy Rane is the worst person in the world. 
• He's on SECRant & Spreading Rumors about Harsin banging the Recruiting Coordinator
• He's faking a WOKE investigation saying Harsin is Racist
• OME HE'S SO AWFUL

April 2023:

• That Jimmy is a swell super guy.  Gosh we love him 
• Please fund all of our NIL need 🥰

[cole256 17,085]

So nobody can objectively explain why the very same people that were so openly negative to one guy now saying why speak negative about anybody now.....

You better get in line with the demographic or get ran off!

[cole256 17,085]

3 hours ago, W.E.D said:

Februrary 2022:

• Jimmy Rane is the worst person in the world. 
• He's on SECRant & Spreading Rumors about Harsin banging the Recruiting Coordinator
• He's faking a WOKE investigation saying Harsin is Racist
• OME HE'S SO AWFUL

April 2023:

• That Jimmy is a swell super guy.  Gosh we love him 
• Please fund all of our NIL need 🥰

The forum gets funnier and funnier

[DAG 35,079]

[icanthearyou 4,468]

8 hours ago, AU-24 said:

So at what point is a wealthy person considered bad? When their net worth is over $200,000 or maybe 1 million, over 100 million, over 1 billion, when is it they automatically become a bad person? You and your buddy on here love Deion Sanders, and he is a multi, multi millionaire, does that make him a bad person? 

I do not believe there is anything wrong with being rewarded for being productive.  However, a system that rewards wealth for simply being wealthy is questionable.  Hoarding mass sums of wealth (enough for generations) while others around you are starving is highly questionable.  When wealth conspires to suppress, control wages, control benefits, control the government, rule over all of society,,, then, wealth is truly evil.

We think about socialism, the government owning the means of production and immediately dismiss the idea.  However, we rarely consider what it means when those who own the means of production own the government.  Is there really any difference?

[cbo 8,861]

3 hours ago, W.E.D said:

Februrary 2022:

• Jimmy Rane is the worst person in the world. 
• He's on SECRant & Spreading Rumors about Harsin banging the Recruiting Coordinator
• He's faking a WOKE investigation saying Harsin is Racist
• OME HE'S SO AWFUL

April 2023:

• That Jimmy is a swell super guy.  Gosh we love him 
• Please fund all of our NIL need 🥰

Exactly, this was my entire point. 

[LPTiger 5,501]

Cole, I'm curious as to how you would define a great man?    You imply Jimmy Rane would not qualify as a great man.   Why do you disqualify him?    What interactions have you had with him?

[DAG 35,079]

19 minutes ago, LPTiger said:

Cole, I'm curious as to how you would define a great man?    You imply Jimmy Rane would not qualify as a great man.   Why do you disqualify him?    What interactions have you had with him?

Come on now. I am not arguing about whether Jimmy is a great man or not , but you know how many of us make judgements on people within this forum without any interaction? 

[CCTAU 3,609]

2 hours ago, icanthearyou said:

I do not believe there is anything wrong with being rewarded for being productive.  However, a system that rewards wealth for simply being wealthy is questionable.  Hoarding mass sums of wealth (enough for generations) while others around you are starving is highly questionable.  When wealth conspires to suppress, control wages, control benefits, control the government, rule over all of society,,, then, wealth is truly evil.

We think about socialism, the government owning the means of production and immediately dismiss the idea.  However, we rarely consider what it means when those who own the means of production own the government.  Is there really any difference?

I never begrudge anyone earning and keeping what they earned. To suggest that people who have not worked for it should somehow benefit from other’s hard work is silly. If you want to make a difference, earn your money and give it all away. Nothing is stopping you. 

Also, nobody is starving in this country. 
 

Jimmy Rane is who he is. I’m glad AU has a benefactor with his means. 
Of course there are times that I would prefer he not have the influence he has. But that comes with the territory. You can’t take a man’s money and then tell him to shove off. This ain’t Budweiser university….

[cole256 17,085]

47 minutes ago, LPTiger said:

Cole, I'm curious as to how you would define a great man?    You imply Jimmy Rane would not qualify as a great man.   Why do you disqualify him?    What interactions have you had with him?

I appreciate you being different than most on this thread, you had thoughts about it as opposed to blind emotion and getting upset. And then of course it would eventually lead to voicing an opinion that I shouldn't speak.

I do disagree with one thing, I didn't imply if Jimmy was good or bad. I questioned those saying he was good.

Now my reason for questioning it was I noticed many of the same people singing Jimmy praises were the EXACT same people that would bombard Sanders and negatively go on and on tearing him down in those threads. 

So naturally I thought why are these guys going so hard for Jimmy and were so toxic to Sanders. So then I did a little experiment for myself I just posted so he's a good man right? Now that one post had 4/5 people dislike it. Once again the same people that would go on and on about how Sanders couldn't be criticized (when you look at those threads it was much more criticism than praise btw) and I didn't even criticize this guy but you see the responses.

So now you just asked the question maybe being an ass, or maybe you are being sincere, basically you are asking how would I know one way or the other. What qualifies me?

I just find it interesting that question wasn't asked during all the praise. I also find it interesting that the question also wasn't asked in the thread crapping on Sanders. 

Lastly to me it's very disingenuous that a board where the majority have said things like former players don't know any more about football than any average Joe. Former Hall of famers and greatest at their position don't know football, can in the same breath think it's ok that a guy that doesn't know ANYTHING about football but is super rich should have influence and leverage to a football program. That is moronic. 

[TitanTiger 21,404]

We tend to like folks to be one thing or the other - history's greatest monster and the source of all our ills, or a selfless exemplar all of us should aspire to and the truth is, most folks are somewhere in between.  Or they're a mess of contradictions.  They often do grand and wonderful things with their power or wealth and then other times they use it to impose their will on a situation, enrich themselves or consolidate control.  I can't say exactly where Rane falls on that line. 

I do remember people hating Bobby Lowder for a long time, but then once he fell from grace, Auburn's PTB were mired in constant power struggles between various factions that kept us from making moves that needed to be made or prevented things like Leath going off on his own to negotiate idiotically slanted contracts or Greene hiring mistakes like Harsin while the factions bickered.  I've come around to the idea that like it or not, you need one person that wants Auburn to succeed who can snap the rest of the guys having dick measuring contests with their bank accounts into line.  And Rane might have finally stepped into such a role.  I can't say for sure.  But I do know, you don't tend to play at this level with the personality of a philanthropist.  It's hard ball, it gets dirty sometimes, and it's going to piss folks off.

Rane has done some really good things with the wealth he's been given.  He's also used it to get his way.  Seems fairly normal.

[LPTiger 5,501]

9 minutes ago, cole256 said:

I appreciate you being different than most on this thread, you had thoughts about it as opposed to blind emotion and getting upset. And then of course it would eventually lead to voicing an opinion that I shouldn't speak.

I do disagree with one thing, I didn't imply if Jimmy was good or bad. I questioned those saying he was good.

Now my reason for questioning it was I noticed many of the same people singing Jimmy praises were the EXACT same people that would bombard Sanders and negatively go on and on tearing him down in those threads. 

So naturally I thought why are these guys going so hard for Jimmy and were so toxic to Sanders. So then I did a little experiment for myself I just posted so he's a good man right? Now that one post had 4/5 people dislike it. Once again the same people that would go on and on about how Sanders couldn't be criticized (when you look at those threads it was much more criticism than praise btw) and I didn't even criticize this guy but you see the responses.

So now you just asked the question maybe being an ass, or maybe you are being sincere, basically you are asking how would I know one way or the other. What qualifies me?

I just find it interesting that question wasn't asked during all the praise. I also find it interesting that the question also wasn't asked in the thread crapping on Sanders. 

Lastly to me it's very disingenuous that a board where the majority have said things like former players don't know any more about football than any average Joe. Former Hall of famers and greatest at their position don't know football, can in the same breath think it's ok that a guy that doesn't know ANYTHING about football but is super rich should have influence and leverage to a football program. That is moronic. 

I appreciate your response.   I was genuinely curious if you had had a bad interaction with Jimmy.  My parents grew up with Jimmy.   I know him and his family very well.   Jimmy would be the very first to tell you he has not led a perfect life, but good gracious how many of us have more than we need yet we are not taking steps to pave the way for needy kids to go to college.   I know I should do more.   In my business, I provide for a few families.    Jimmy's business  provides for a few thousand families.  In my givings to Auburn, I help in a small way.    Jimmy helps in a huge way.    Literally every single sport has Yellowwood on the scoreboard.   Is it good for business, to some extent.    Could a public company, say an Apple, get away with giving so much money to one university.  Certainly not.   It would be considered a breach of fiduciary duty.    Recently, Jimmy literally created a state of the art culinary school at Auburn.   Why?   1. To honor his parents.  2. To honor Auburn and help Auburn students.   In my mind all great men and women have several things in common - they love Jesus, they honor their parents and family, they live a lawful life, they have a strong work ethic, they more often than not put others before themselves, they lend a helping hand to those in need, they are generous in every way, they respect others, they try to make a difference, they leave the world a better place.    To my knowledge, Jimmy checks all of these boxes.    

[cole256 17,085]

15 minutes ago, LPTiger said:

I appreciate your response.   I was genuinely curious if you had had a bad interaction with Jimmy.  My parents grew up with Jimmy.   I know him and his family very well.   Jimmy would be the very first to tell you he has not led a perfect life, but good gracious how many of us have more than we need yet we are not taking steps to pave the way for needy kids to go to college.   I know I should do more.   In my business, I provide for a few families.    Jimmy's business  provides for a few thousand families.  In my givings to Auburn, I help in a small way.    Jimmy helps in a huge way.    Literally every single sport has Yellowwood on the scoreboard.   Is it good for business, to some extent.    Could a public company, say an Apple, get away with giving so much money to one university.  Certainly not.   It would be considered a breach of fiduciary duty.    Recently, Jimmy literally created a state of the art culinary school at Auburn.   Why?   1. To honor his parents.  2. To honor Auburn and help Auburn students.   In my mind all great men and women have several things in common - they love Jesus, they honor their parents and family, they live a lawful life, they have a strong work ethic, they more often than not put others before themselves, they lend a helping hand to those in need, they are generous in every way, they respect others, they try to make a difference, they leave the world a better place.    To my knowledge, Jimmy checks all of these boxes.    

So it would be asinine for me to come and start saying stuff like he's selfish, he's only looking out for himself, he's a con man and I don't know anything about him huh? 

It would also be suspect if I had all of this to say about him and some other guy comes up on here and I start checking everybody and telling everybody not to say anything about him would it not?

[cole256 17,085]

19 minutes ago, LPTiger said:

I appreciate your response.   I was genuinely curious if you had had a bad interaction with Jimmy.  My parents grew up with Jimmy.   I know him and his family very well.   Jimmy would be the very first to tell you he has not led a perfect life, but good gracious how many of us have more than we need yet we are not taking steps to pave the way for needy kids to go to college.   I know I should do more.   In my business, I provide for a few families.    Jimmy's business  provides for a few thousand families.  In my givings to Auburn, I help in a small way.    Jimmy helps in a huge way.    Literally every single sport has Yellowwood on the scoreboard.   Is it good for business, to some extent.    Could a public company, say an Apple, get away with giving so much money to one university.  Certainly not.   It would be considered a breach of fiduciary duty.    Recently, Jimmy literally created a state of the art culinary school at Auburn.   Why?   1. To honor his parents.  2. To honor Auburn and help Auburn students.   In my mind all great men and women have several things in common - they love Jesus, they honor their parents and family, they live a lawful life, they have a strong work ethic, they more often than not put others before themselves, they lend a helping hand to those in need, they are generous in every way, they respect others, they try to make a difference, they leave the world a better place.    To my knowledge, Jimmy checks all of these boxes.    

I figured you were going to say stuff to cosign him being great but I talked about alot in my reply back to you, you are just focused on Jimmy being great. I get it. But as far as me that's not the point I was making.

I actually doubt anybody will really address what I'm saying but I know everybody can see it. It will just be a bunch of passive aggressive posts and liking and disliking. 

[johnnyAU 3,745]

Maybe Rane is a good dude, maybe he isn't. Maybe Saunders is a good dude, maybe he isn't. I've never met either of them. I have met Bo Jackson and Bruce Pearl, and spoken with them both. From both my personal interactions with them and their respective actions on/off the field/court I can make an educated assumption that they are both quite impressive and sincere guys.  Unless you have a personal relationship, or have had a significant interaction with Saunders or Rane, I really don't care what your opinion is of either. It is no more significant than mine, regardless of which side of the coin you are on.  I happen to have advocated for Prime in the coaching search. However, I imagine you would run across the same dynamic on a Florida State message board about him as you find here with Rane. I have to imagine Prime is a big FSU fan/donor (maybe not), and I imagine their fan base really likes him and would love to have him coach, whether he proves to be a decent coach or not. They would likely defend him against any naysayers against any skepticism. 

Edited April 13, 2023 by johnnyAU
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[LPTiger 5,501]

35 minutes ago, cole256 said:

I figured you were going to say stuff to cosign him being great but I talked about alot in my reply back to you, you are just focused on Jimmy being great. I get it. But as far as me that's not the point I was making.

I actually doubt anybody will really address what I'm saying but I know everybody can see it. It will just be a bunch of passive aggressive posts and liking and disliking. 

I think what you are saying are people here are praising Jimmy but had less nice things to say about Coach Sanders.   I think the people praising Jimmy here are (1) folks who didn't really have an opinion about Jimmy prior to seeing the video (2) folks who had an opinion changed about Jimmy after watching the video and (3) folks who already knew Jimmy and knew the things that the video highlighted.    Some people do not like some highly successful people for many legit reasons (they belittle others, they act like they are better than/don't have time for others, they feel they are entitled) and some people do not like highly successful people for non-legitimate reasons (they are jealous, they have not been as successful and for some reason harbor ill-will towards those that have, etc.).   I think a lot of people hate on Jimmy for reasons that are not legitimate and because, to some extent, they are unknowingly biased by the UofA biased media and powerbrokers that constantly promote a narrative of "BOT meddling at Auburn."    Do board members meddle from time to time at Auburn.   Of course they do.   Do they similarly meddle at UA, UGA, Apple, BOA, of course they do.    People hate on Coach Sanders for illegitimate reasons as well.    Does he bring some of it on himself?   How is it helpful to publicly proclaim that "I don't have time for boosters."  (see my earlier comment about successful people who act like they are better than/don't have time for others).   In any event if we had 100 boosters like Jimmy, Sir Charles, Walt Woltosz, etc. our University, and more specifically our sports teams, would be better for it .   

[LPTiger 5,501]

1 minute ago, johnnyAU said:

Maybe Rane is a good dude, maybe he isn't. Maybe Saunders is a good dude, maybe he isn't. I've never met either of them. I have met Bo Jackson and Bruce Pearl, and spoken with them both. From both my personal interactions with them and their respective actions on/off the field/court I can make an educated assumption that they are both quite impressive and sincere guys.  Unless you have a personal relationship, or have had a significant interaction with Saunders or Rane, I really don't care what your opinion is of either. It is no more significant than mine, regardless of which side of the coin you are on.  I happen to have advocated for Prime in the coaching search. However, I imagine you would run across the same dynamic on a Florida State message board about him as you find here with Rane. I have to imagine Prime is a big FSU fan/donor (maybe not), and I imagine their fan base really likes him and would love to have him coach, whether he proves to be a decent coach or not. They would likely defend him against any naysayers against any skepticism. 

Well-said.

[AU-24 3,130]

5 hours ago, cole256 said:

So nobody can objectively explain why the very same people that were so openly negative to one guy now saying why speak negative about anybody now.....

You better get in line with the demographic or get ran off!

Who is openly negative about a guy just because he was successful in life in his work and investing? Do you honestly feel a good reason to be negative about a person is because they’ve done something intelligent with their life to where they made good money?

[AU-24 3,130]

5 hours ago, icanthearyou said:

I do not believe there is anything wrong with being rewarded for being productive.  However, a system that rewards wealth for simply being wealthy is questionable.  Hoarding mass sums of wealth (enough for generations) while others around you are starving is highly questionable.  When wealth conspires to suppress, control wages, control benefits, control the government, rule over all of society,,, then, wealth is truly evil.

We think about socialism, the government owning the means of production and immediately dismiss the idea.  However, we rarely consider what it means when those who own the means of production own the government.  Is there really any difference?

Again, how much wealth is required to become evil? Do you realize how many people he employs? How many people his wealth is providing medical benefits to. Then the jobs that are supported in the medical industry. Do you realize the taxes everyone up and down the line of his companies is paying to support your social welfare benefits? Everyone that works for him that buys a house, put how many people to work? Everyone that works for him buys cars, boats, furnishings for their homes? Do you realize how many people he employees and then how much of that employment trickles down? Just in homes and buildings: the roofers, the plumbers, the electricians, the Carpenter’s, the flooring people, the painters, the sheet rock and plaster people, the landscapers, the people working at the hardware stores, and the lumber companies that are furnishing the supplies for the homes.

Then we have the cars, all of the appliances and entertainment systems that go into the homes, the security systems that go into some of the homes, the driveways being poured the bricks, being laid, the painters, to include the people that make the paint at the factories, and then the people that work at the paint store, selling the paint to the painters, etc. etc. etc. 

Then we have the business travel that’s required for his employees. The vacations people take because they’re earning money in his companies. There are a number of people employed in the travel industry. From airline pilots to airline maintenance workers to people employed making the aircraft themselves. Next time you’re at an airport watch and see how many people are working at the airport to include the actual airfield and the aircraft itself etc. That wouldn’t happen without our companies employing tens of thousands of people making good money. 
 

As far as people starving in America? Free breakfast, free, lunch, free take-home snack, or dinner in our school system. Then after school: Food stamps, EBT card, WIC, checks, food banks at every large church, city rescue missions, other nonprofits food banks.

If adults are starving, they have only to look in the mirror to find blame. And again who pays the taxes for all of these food programs? Unfortunately, you cannot raise taxes on those of us that are willing to work and pay taxes to create a social welfare program that forces people to be good parents. You just can’t do it. If we could raise taxes to force better parenting, I would be the first one to voluntarily to pay more taxes. But you just can’t do it!

[toddc 13,197]

Seems like a good guy from the video but that’s all I know about him now. Not really interested in him or the back and forth. He could be good or he could be bad but nobody on here really knows.