MAGA Pastors: Trump Was Indicted for Your Sins

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MAGA Pastors: Trump Was Indicted for Your Sins

Trump jumped on a prayer call Tuesday night, vowing to defend “our beautiful Christianity” and airing an unholy host of grievances

Pastor Paula White speaks at the America First Policy Institute Agenda Summit in Washington, DC, on July 26, 2022. Mandel Ngan/AFP/Getty Images

After his indictment on 34 felony counts Tuesday, Donald Trump sought out a faithful audience, joining a conference call with Christian supporters who see him as not simply battling a liberal prosecutor, but ensnared in a “demonic situation.”

Trump’s longtime religious adviser Paula White Cain, working with an evangelical group called Intercessors for America, organized an “Emergency Prayer Call” for Trump. (In Christianity, intercessors are people who pray to God on behalf of others.) 

The former president — whose legal troubles stem from an attempt to cover up an affair with a porn star that allegedly transpired shortly after the birth of his fifth child to his third wife — is revered as a champion by segments of the evangelical community. This Christian crowd sees Trump not only as an effective champion of their issues, but almost as a demigod — a protector who is absorbing attacks that would otherwise befall the faith community. (This is a perception the former President’s team has cultivated, both for faith followers and MAGAworld more broadly; a Trumpworld source told Rolling Stone this week: “It’s kind of a Jesus Christ thing…  ‘I’m absorbing all this pain from all around from everywhere so you don’t have to.’”)

Addressing the call-in crowd Trump spoke in two modes. Using coarse secular language, he denounced the “fake investigation” and “sham” indictment, handed down by “radical left people” who “actually have to hate our country.”

But then Trump switched gears, painting his legal woes in a frame of religious persecution. He argued that believers in “our beautiful Christianity” have been targeted: “We’re being discriminated against as a religion. We’re being discriminated against as a faith,” he insisted. “And we can’t let that continue.” 

Laying it on thick, Trump declared: “The main thing that our country needs, again, is religion.” He insisted: “I’m fighting, very hard for people of religion, people that believe in God.” Finally, Trump implored his listeners: “I want you to pray really hard, because we have to have a victory in 2024.” 

White Cain then moved the call along, asking other prominent guests to make public prayers for the ex-president, who remained on the line. The speakers included Focus on the Family founder James Dobson, Christian Nationalist worship leader Sean Feucht, former acting attorney general Matt Whitaker, and former congress member Michele Bachmann.

Feucht used his time to summon “prayer warriors” to “rise up” on Trump’s behalf. He then prayed directly to heaven: “We know that you got a plan God… You can take what the enemy meant for evil in this horrible, corrupt, disgusting, demonic situation with this case in New York [and] you can shift it — and turn it around for our good.”

Whitaker, the “masculine toilet” innovator who briefly served as the nation’s top law enforcement officer, put his faith not in the judicial system but in the Judge on High. “We’re going to have to keep calling on God to deliver justice,” Whitaker insisted. “I pray that He can, because He is the only one that can make sure that we have justice.”

The longtime former Minnesota congress member Bachmann spoke explicitly to the theme of Trump as a self-sacrificing protector. “Father, our President Donald J. Trump has taken the blows for America,” she insisted. “He has taken the blows for us. We lift him up to you.” 

Bachmann called for heavenly intervention in the criminal case stemming from Trump’s porn-star payoff. “Oh God, would you declare Donald J. Trump innocent? Oh Father, would you free Donald Trump from his trouble — and our troubles here in America?”

This notion that Trump is a heaven-sent human shield also surfaced in a similar conference call organized Monday by the group Pastors for Trump. During that gathering, Pastor John Bennett, who’s also the recent-former chair of the Oklahoma Republican party, declared that Trump’s legal battles were emblematic of a far greater struggle.

“We are in a war for the very soul of this nation,” Bennett insisted. “And God has moved Donald Trump between us and the enemy — to give us a little bit of time to get our act together, church,” he said, speaking to the faithful listeners.

“Yes, they’re after President Trump. And thank God he’s been long suffering and he’s fought the good fight of faith. Thank God, he’s been obedient to allow the Lord to work through him,” Bennett continued. “Because he, and the Lord, is the only thing between us and that evil,” he insisted. “That’s the only thing that’s right now stopping evil from overtaking good.”

Speaking in less overtly religious terms, the president’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani also joined the call, insisting that the indictment of Trump is a bellwether for liberal prosecutorial overreach against the Trump faithful nationwide. “If you’re Republican, if you’re conservative, if you’re Christian, watch out,” Giuliani warned. “They’re coming for ya.”

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The mind boggles.

[Leftfield 3,378]

That's actually terrifying.

[Mims44 2,004]

1 hour ago, aubiefifty said:

MAGA Pastors: Trump Was Indicted for Your Sins

Trump jumped on a prayer call Tuesday night, vowing to defend “our beautiful Christianity” and airing an unholy host of grievances

Pastor Paula White speaks at the America First Policy Institute Agenda Summit in Washington, DC, on July 26, 2022. Mandel Ngan/AFP/Getty Images

After his indictment on 34 felony counts Tuesday, Donald Trump sought out a faithful audience, joining a conference call with Christian supporters who see him as not simply battling a liberal prosecutor, but ensnared in a “demonic situation.”

Trump’s longtime religious adviser Paula White Cain, working with an evangelical group called Intercessors for America, organized an “Emergency Prayer Call” for Trump. (In Christianity, intercessors are people who pray to God on behalf of others.) 

The former president — whose legal troubles stem from an attempt to cover up an affair with a porn star that allegedly transpired shortly after the birth of his fifth child to his third wife — is revered as a champion by segments of the evangelical community. This Christian crowd sees Trump not only as an effective champion of their issues, but almost as a demigod — a protector who is absorbing attacks that would otherwise befall the faith community. (This is a perception the former President’s team has cultivated, both for faith followers and MAGAworld more broadly; a Trumpworld source told Rolling Stone this week: “It’s kind of a Jesus Christ thing…  ‘I’m absorbing all this pain from all around from everywhere so you don’t have to.’”)

Addressing the call-in crowd Trump spoke in two modes. Using coarse secular language, he denounced the “fake investigation” and “sham” indictment, handed down by “radical left people” who “actually have to hate our country.”

But then Trump switched gears, painting his legal woes in a frame of religious persecution. He argued that believers in “our beautiful Christianity” have been targeted: “We’re being discriminated against as a religion. We’re being discriminated against as a faith,” he insisted. “And we can’t let that continue.” 

Laying it on thick, Trump declared: “The main thing that our country needs, again, is religion.” He insisted: “I’m fighting, very hard for people of religion, people that believe in God.” Finally, Trump implored his listeners: “I want you to pray really hard, because we have to have a victory in 2024.” 

White Cain then moved the call along, asking other prominent guests to make public prayers for the ex-president, who remained on the line. The speakers included Focus on the Family founder James Dobson, Christian Nationalist worship leader Sean Feucht, former acting attorney general Matt Whitaker, and former congress member Michele Bachmann.

Feucht used his time to summon “prayer warriors” to “rise up” on Trump’s behalf. He then prayed directly to heaven: “We know that you got a plan God… You can take what the enemy meant for evil in this horrible, corrupt, disgusting, demonic situation with this case in New York [and] you can shift it — and turn it around for our good.”

Whitaker, the “masculine toilet” innovator who briefly served as the nation’s top law enforcement officer, put his faith not in the judicial system but in the Judge on High. “We’re going to have to keep calling on God to deliver justice,” Whitaker insisted. “I pray that He can, because He is the only one that can make sure that we have justice.”

The longtime former Minnesota congress member Bachmann spoke explicitly to the theme of Trump as a self-sacrificing protector. “Father, our President Donald J. Trump has taken the blows for America,” she insisted. “He has taken the blows for us. We lift him up to you.” 

Bachmann called for heavenly intervention in the criminal case stemming from Trump’s porn-star payoff. “Oh God, would you declare Donald J. Trump innocent? Oh Father, would you free Donald Trump from his trouble — and our troubles here in America?”

This notion that Trump is a heaven-sent human shield also surfaced in a similar conference call organized Monday by the group Pastors for Trump. During that gathering, Pastor John Bennett, who’s also the recent-former chair of the Oklahoma Republican party, declared that Trump’s legal battles were emblematic of a far greater struggle.

“We are in a war for the very soul of this nation,” Bennett insisted. “And God has moved Donald Trump between us and the enemy — to give us a little bit of time to get our act together, church,” he said, speaking to the faithful listeners.

“Yes, they’re after President Trump. And thank God he’s been long suffering and he’s fought the good fight of faith. Thank God, he’s been obedient to allow the Lord to work through him,” Bennett continued. “Because he, and the Lord, is the only thing between us and that evil,” he insisted. “That’s the only thing that’s right now stopping evil from overtaking good.”

Speaking in less overtly religious terms, the president’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani also joined the call, insisting that the indictment of Trump is a bellwether for liberal prosecutorial overreach against the Trump faithful nationwide. “If you’re Republican, if you’re conservative, if you’re Christian, watch out,” Giuliani warned. “They’re coming for ya.”

Good God man....

 

 

54 minutes ago, Leftfield said:

That's actually terrifying.

This part made me laugh...

The former president — whose legal troubles stem from an attempt to cover up an affair with a porn star that allegedly transpired shortly after the birth of his fifth child to his third wife — is revered as a champion by segments of the evangelical community.

This one too....

Whitaker, the “masculine toilet” innovator who briefly served as the nation’s top law enforcement officer

 

Then it went more to the scary/stomach turning stuff...

“We are in a war for the very soul of this nation,” Bennett insisted. “And God has moved Donald Trump between us and the enemy — to give us a little bit of time to get our act together, church,” he said, speaking to the faithful listeners.

“Yes, they’re after President Trump. And thank God he’s been long suffering and he’s fought the good fight of faith. Thank God, he’s been obedient to allow the Lord to work through him,” Bennett continued. “Because he, and the Lord, is the only thing between us and that evil,” he insisted. “That’s the only thing that’s right now stopping evil from overtaking good.”

[aubiefifty 18,259]

4 minutes ago, Mims44 said:

Good God man....

 

 

This part made me laugh...

The former president — whose legal troubles stem from an attempt to cover up an affair with a porn star that allegedly transpired shortly after the birth of his fifth child to his third wife — is revered as a champion by segments of the evangelical community.

This one too....

Whitaker, the “masculine toilet” innovator who briefly served as the nation’s top law enforcement officer

 

Then it went more to the scary/stomach turning stuff...

“We are in a war for the very soul of this nation,” Bennett insisted. “And God has moved Donald Trump between us and the enemy — to give us a little bit of time to get our act together, church,” he said, speaking to the faithful listeners.

“Yes, they’re after President Trump. And thank God he’s been long suffering and he’s fought the good fight of faith. Thank God, he’s been obedient to allow the Lord to work through him,” Bennett continued. “Because he, and the Lord, is the only thing between us and that evil,” he insisted. “That’s the only thing that’s right now stopping evil from overtaking good.”

if this is real with god i am about done..............

[aubiefifty 18,259]

7 minutes ago, Mims44 said:

Good God man....

 

 

This part made me laugh...

The former president — whose legal troubles stem from an attempt to cover up an affair with a porn star that allegedly transpired shortly after the birth of his fifth child to his third wife — is revered as a champion by segments of the evangelical community.

This one too....

Whitaker, the “masculine toilet” innovator who briefly served as the nation’s top law enforcement officer

 

Then it went more to the scary/stomach turning stuff...

“We are in a war for the very soul of this nation,” Bennett insisted. “And God has moved Donald Trump between us and the enemy — to give us a little bit of time to get our act together, church,” he said, speaking to the faithful listeners.

“Yes, they’re after President Trump. And thank God he’s been long suffering and he’s fought the good fight of faith. Thank God, he’s been obedient to allow the Lord to work through him,” Bennett continued. “Because he, and the Lord, is the only thing between us and that evil,” he insisted. “That’s the only thing that’s right now stopping evil from overtaking good.”

hey mims how are ya bayby? wanna come eat gummies with me?

[Mims44 2,004]

34 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

hey mims how are ya bayby? wanna come eat gummies with me?

I'm federal, I don't get all the perks of civvies  

[homersapien 12,244]

Christian Nationalist Fascists.

Doesn't surprise me at all.

[TitanTiger 21,242]

The quality of "pastor" Trump surrounds himself with leaves much to be desired.  Paula White is a straight up charlatan.

[homersapien 12,244]

10 minutes ago, TitanTiger said:

The quality of "pastor" Trump surrounds himself with leaves much to be desired.  Paula White is a straight up charlatan.

Good point.  (There's lots of money to be garnered from that "flock". )  She and Trump are "birds of a feather".

Paula white - Search (bing.com)

Preacher Paula White has worked as President Trump's spiritual advisor since 2017, and many were first introduced to her and her work when she gave the invocation at his inauguration that year.

.....The 54-year-old Christian has been viewed as a controversial figure because of her belief in prosperity theology, which is the idea that donating to religious causes is the will of God, and that it helps a person to become wealthier in other ways. Other evangelists like Joel Osteen and Wayne T. Jackson support prosperity theology. 

Paula's financial issues through the church have also been the subject of criticism..... 

Edited April 6, 2023 by homersapien

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On 4/6/2023 at 10:49 AM, aubiefifty said:

if this is real with god i am about done..............

Feeling better today, Fifty?

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On 4/6/2023 at 2:03 PM, TitanTiger said:

The quality of "pastor" Trump surrounds himself with leaves much to be desired.  Paula White is a straight up charlatan.

Never thought otherwise myself.

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On 4/6/2023 at 8:00 AM, aubiefifty said:

MAGA Pastors: Trump Was Indicted for Your Sins

Trump jumped on a prayer call Tuesday night, vowing to defend “our beautiful Christianity” and airing an unholy host of grievances

Pastor Paula White speaks at the America First Policy Institute Agenda Summit in Washington, DC, on July 26, 2022. Mandel Ngan/AFP/Getty Images

After his indictment on 34 felony counts Tuesday, Donald Trump sought out a faithful audience, joining a conference call with Christian supporters who see him as not simply battling a liberal prosecutor, but ensnared in a “demonic situation.”

Trump’s longtime religious adviser Paula White Cain, working with an evangelical group called Intercessors for America, organized an “Emergency Prayer Call” for Trump. (In Christianity, intercessors are people who pray to God on behalf of others.) 

The former president — whose legal troubles stem from an attempt to cover up an affair with a porn star that allegedly transpired shortly after the birth of his fifth child to his third wife — is revered as a champion by segments of the evangelical community. This Christian crowd sees Trump not only as an effective champion of their issues, but almost as a demigod — a protector who is absorbing attacks that would otherwise befall the faith community. (This is a perception the former President’s team has cultivated, both for faith followers and MAGAworld more broadly; a Trumpworld source told Rolling Stone this week: “It’s kind of a Jesus Christ thing…  ‘I’m absorbing all this pain from all around from everywhere so you don’t have to.’”)

Addressing the call-in crowd Trump spoke in two modes. Using coarse secular language, he denounced the “fake investigation” and “sham” indictment, handed down by “radical left people” who “actually have to hate our country.”

But then Trump switched gears, painting his legal woes in a frame of religious persecution. He argued that believers in “our beautiful Christianity” have been targeted: “We’re being discriminated against as a religion. We’re being discriminated against as a faith,” he insisted. “And we can’t let that continue.” 

Laying it on thick, Trump declared: “The main thing that our country needs, again, is religion.” He insisted: “I’m fighting, very hard for people of religion, people that believe in God.” Finally, Trump implored his listeners: “I want you to pray really hard, because we have to have a victory in 2024.” 

White Cain then moved the call along, asking other prominent guests to make public prayers for the ex-president, who remained on the line. The speakers included Focus on the Family founder James Dobson, Christian Nationalist worship leader Sean Feucht, former acting attorney general Matt Whitaker, and former congress member Michele Bachmann.

Feucht used his time to summon “prayer warriors” to “rise up” on Trump’s behalf. He then prayed directly to heaven: “We know that you got a plan God… You can take what the enemy meant for evil in this horrible, corrupt, disgusting, demonic situation with this case in New York [and] you can shift it — and turn it around for our good.”

Whitaker, the “masculine toilet” innovator who briefly served as the nation’s top law enforcement officer, put his faith not in the judicial system but in the Judge on High. “We’re going to have to keep calling on God to deliver justice,” Whitaker insisted. “I pray that He can, because He is the only one that can make sure that we have justice.”

The longtime former Minnesota congress member Bachmann spoke explicitly to the theme of Trump as a self-sacrificing protector. “Father, our President Donald J. Trump has taken the blows for America,” she insisted. “He has taken the blows for us. We lift him up to you.” 

Bachmann called for heavenly intervention in the criminal case stemming from Trump’s porn-star payoff. “Oh God, would you declare Donald J. Trump innocent? Oh Father, would you free Donald Trump from his trouble — and our troubles here in America?”

This notion that Trump is a heaven-sent human shield also surfaced in a similar conference call organized Monday by the group Pastors for Trump. During that gathering, Pastor John Bennett, who’s also the recent-former chair of the Oklahoma Republican party, declared that Trump’s legal battles were emblematic of a far greater struggle.

“We are in a war for the very soul of this nation,” Bennett insisted. “And God has moved Donald Trump between us and the enemy — to give us a little bit of time to get our act together, church,” he said, speaking to the faithful listeners.

“Yes, they’re after President Trump. And thank God he’s been long suffering and he’s fought the good fight of faith. Thank God, he’s been obedient to allow the Lord to work through him,” Bennett continued. “Because he, and the Lord, is the only thing between us and that evil,” he insisted. “That’s the only thing that’s right now stopping evil from overtaking good.”

Speaking in less overtly religious terms, the president’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani also joined the call, insisting that the indictment of Trump is a bellwether for liberal prosecutorial overreach against the Trump faithful nationwide. “If you’re Republican, if you’re conservative, if you’re Christian, watch out,” Giuliani warned. “They’re coming for ya.”

Another good read.

https://wng.org/opinions/a-nation-on-trial-1680696312?mkt_tok=NzEwLVFSUi0yMDkAAAGK8he2HPnYjvdkXRlvS4W6CpDWNaNFbO-wHKIiMEXNPQOvYUH8SRPuibo1HN07cQVRDIR-PFYjkWRiuOSE54Vj5sHByDgt0ZkD42QjVgXWwe5y

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1 hour ago, PUB78 said:

Another good read.

https://wng.org/opinions/a-nation-on-trial-1680696312?mkt_tok=NzEwLVFSUi0yMDkAAAGK8he2HPnYjvdkXRlvS4W6CpDWNaNFbO-wHKIiMEXNPQOvYUH8SRPuibo1HN07cQVRDIR-PFYjkWRiuOSE54Vj5sHByDgt0ZkD42QjVgXWwe5y

While it's good that some American Christians are NOW starting to have moral reservations about Trump and his Conduct (how much of this is due to genuine religious conviction and how much is due to Trumps decreased political clout and Christian fears about his chances as a future Republican candidate is unclear) 

It would have been nice for protestants to have realized this man isn't a good representation of their beliefs, religion, stated morals, etc BEFORE they wholeheartedly supported him and elected him into the Presidency and put the country through 4+ years of total chaos. Trump is the exact same man now as he was when he came down the golden escalator of Trump Tower in 2015. 

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55 minutes ago, CoffeeTiger said:

While it's good that some American Christians are NOW starting to have moral reservations about Trump and his Conduct (how much of this is due to genuine religious conviction and how much is due to Trumps decreased political clout and Christian fears about his chances as a future Republican candidate is unclear) 

It would have been nice for protestants to have realized this man isn't a good representation of their beliefs, religion, stated morals, etc BEFORE they wholeheartedly supported him and elected him into the Presidency and put the country through 4+ years of total chaos. Trump is the exact same man now as he was when he came down the golden escalator of Trump Tower in 2015. 

So, we should have voted for Clinton? I don’t think so.

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55 minutes ago, PUB78 said:

So, we should have voted for Clinton? I don’t think so.

Or elect a Republican nominee that aligns with your beliefs.

[icanthearyou 4,468]

55 minutes ago, PUB78 said:

So, we should have voted for Clinton? I don’t think so.

You had many other choices in the primary.

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21 minutes ago, icanthearyou said:

You had many other choices in the primary.

And I voted for one of the other candidates. 

[icanthearyou 4,468]

3 hours ago, PUB78 said:

And I voted for one of the other candidates. 

Amazing how,,, no one voted for Trump in the primary.  Perhaps there was some election fraud?

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4 hours ago, PUB78 said:

And I voted for one of the other candidates. 

Sure Pub. That is what we all say. I admitted publicly that I voted for him……beer and 2 shots of rum my excuse.
 

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37 minutes ago, icanthearyou said:

Amazing how,,, no one voted for Trump in the primary.  Perhaps there was some election fraud?

Oh, I know lots of people who voted for Trump in the primaries.  Still caught most of us by surprised he was eventually the Republican nominee.

I know this going to disappoint you, but I am not a MAGA person.  I did like many things Trump did in office, especially  on the Supreme Court appointments and other judgeships, roll back of many  federal regulations, support for  pro-life and religious freedoms and  standing up to rouge countries and groups. The economy was strong, too.

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17 hours ago, SaltyTiger said:

Sure Pub. That is what we all say. I admitted publicly that I voted for him……beer and 2 shots of rum my excuse.
 

VUI

[TexasTiger 14,309]

17 hours ago, PUB78 said:

Oh, I know lots of people who voted for Trump in the primaries.  Still caught most of us by surprised he was eventually the Republican nominee.

I know this going to disappoint you, but I am not a MAGA person.  I did like many things Trump did in office, especially  on the Supreme Court appointments and other judgeships, roll back of many  federal regulations, support for  pro-life and religious freedoms and  standing up to rouge countries and groups. The economy was strong, too.

The economy was juiced by artificially low interest rates, tax cuts to the wealthy and federal spending. Pure stimulus for 4 years.

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22 hours ago, icanthearyou said:

You had many other choices in the primary.

Kasich was an option— conservative, but essentially decent human.

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9 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

Kasich was an option— conservative, but essentially decent human.

And now, of course, he's considered a traitor by many Republicans.