2024 5*+ WR Cam Coleman FLIPS TO AU FROM A&M!!!

[gr82be 14,848]

19 minutes ago, AUwent said:

I would like to think then that as time goes on we will be more and more competitive. Next year is the final year of Gus's buyout. I think 2026 is the final year of Potato Man's?

Because Gus and Kristi donated 2m to the football only facility at least some of his overall pay came back to Auburn. Makes it more tolerable than Spuds. 

[Mikey 16,781]

21 hours ago, Gowebb11 said:

Imagine if all of money we have blown on coaching buyouts was in our NIL right now. We would be a lot more competitive in the NIL space for situations like Colemans. 

How are the buyouts (paid by the university) and the NIL money (from private contributions) related? Unless there's something I don't understand, the two funds come from entirely different sources.

[Gowebb11 9,801]

2 hours ago, Mikey said:

How are the buyouts (paid by the university) and the NIL money (from private contributions) related? Unless there's something I don't understand, the two funds come from entirely different sources.

I’ve always understood that the University doesn’t pay the buyouts. I’m pretty sure a public university paying 10s of millions of athletic coach buyouts would not fly from a legal or ethical standpoint. The buyouts are funded by boosters. At least that’s my understanding. The article below explains it.

https://www.sportico.com/leagues/college-sports/2022/college-football-coaches-buyout-1234689739/

Edited July 9, 2023 by Gowebb11

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1 hour ago, Mikey said:

How are the buyouts (paid by the university) and the NIL money (from private contributions) related? Unless there's something I don't understand, the two funds come from entirely different sources.

One large source of AD funds are directly from donations.  AD gets "additional" donations before firing and having to pay buyout.  AD pay's buyout.

Funds come from Rane, Broadway, etc.  Same funds could be given to NIL vs AD for buyout

[WarDamnEagleWDE 12,737]

On 7/5/2023 at 5:38 PM, ellitor said:

@gr82b4au nope! There are conflicting reports on whether AU is going to fight this one or not. So until all sources say AU has moved on the thread stays in this forum.

AU hasn’t moved on yet. Will Hugh move in in the near future? Maybe. 

[WarDamnEagleWDE 12,737]

On 7/8/2023 at 8:15 AM, Mikey said:

Their money guys have a lot more than our money guys have, and there are many more of them. If it comes down to simply money, we are out of it unless Jimbo changes his mind and doesn't want Coleman.

But: Long live the unregulated NIL! It's great for the kids, right?

So? If you have just a bunch of high paid kids just in it for the cash you get what A&M got last year. Even bama isn’t going to pony up for a bunch of paid “assassin’s”. Have to have some balance. Even if AU had unlimited funds, they would still not get in bidding wars on some kids. 

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6 hours ago, WarDamnEagleWDE said:

So? If you have just a bunch of high paid kids just in it for the cash you get what A&M got last year. Even bama isn’t going to pony up for a bunch of paid “assassin’s”. Have to have some balance. Even if AU had unlimited funds, they would still not get in bidding wars on some kids. 

Yep, Hugh has slots for kids and won't go above his valuation 

[Hank2020 3,283]

8 hours ago, WarDamnEagleWDE said:

So? If you have just a bunch of high paid kids just in it for the cash you get what A&M got last year. Even bama isn’t going to pony up for a bunch of paid “assassin’s”. Have to have some balance. Even if AU had unlimited funds, they would still not get in bidding wars on some kids. 

I think thats a way over simplification of a very complex situation. I agree with your statement but it conversely implies all players seeking NIL falls into the bucket you described. It also implies (probably incorrect in my summation) that all the lost games for aTm last season was the result of players that got paid (highly in your description) did not perform well due to getting paid. Last years Bama QB certainly shows that is not correct.

[AUwent 3,815]

8 hours ago, WarDamnEagleWDE said:

So? If you have just a bunch of high paid kids just in it for the cash you get what A&M got last year. Even bama isn’t going to pony up for a bunch of paid “assassin’s”. Have to have some balance. Even if AU had unlimited funds, they would still not get in bidding wars on some kids. 

I get that but most of their losses were very close, a tell tale sign that a team will rebound big time the next year.

[ellitor 33,668]

8 hours ago, AUwent said:

a tell tale sign that a team will rebound big time the next year.

@AUwent Not necessarily when you factor in 31 transferred out & only 10 transferred in. They could rebound or just as easily fall flat on their face.

[Mikey 16,781]

11 hours ago, WarDamnEagleWDE said:

So? If you have just a bunch of high paid kids just in it for the cash you get what A&M got last year. Even bama isn’t going to pony up for a bunch of paid “assassin’s”. Have to have some balance. Even if AU had unlimited funds, they would still not get in bidding wars on some kids. 

So? I posted this, above: "If it comes down to simply money, we are out of it unless Jimbo changes his mind and doesn't want Coleman". 

Whether your typical hot-shot money seeker works out or not isn't the question. The question was could we match A&M dollar for dollar and we cannot.

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8 hours ago, Mikey said:

So? I posted this, above: "If it comes down to simply money, we are out of it unless Jimbo changes his mind and doesn't want Coleman". 

Whether your typical hot-shot money seeker works out or not isn't the question. The question was could we match A&M dollar for dollar and we cannot.

This isn't over with Coleman. AU won't match what A&M will offer some kids. Even if AU had money to burn. Hugh isn't interested in kids who are in it for just the money. AU will get kids who want to make great money and be at AU at the same time. That was my point. Don't get me wrong here, AU has plenty of NIL money for football. That isn't or hasn't been any problems. I don't care what the public AU NIL thing says. 

I've been saying this same thing on these board since I started posting here 10 years ago it seems, AU has plenty of money. People that no one has ever heard of with money. Money has never been a problem. Leadership and pissing away good people's money has been the problem. 

[WarDamnEagleWDE 12,737]

11 hours ago, Hank2020 said:

I think thats a way over simplification of a very complex situation. I agree with your statement but it conversely implies all players seeking NIL falls into the bucket you described. It also implies (probably incorrect in my summation) that all the lost games for aTm last season was the result of players that got paid (highly in your description) did not perform well due to getting paid. Last years Bama QB certainly shows that is not correct.

Why did they underperform? There lies the million dollar question. Lack of drive to play for A&M? Overrated? Culture at A&M. Fit at A&M? Who knows. IMO, plenty just wanted to be paid. 

Like them or not but kids WANT to play at bama under Nick. Sure they get paid but he will cut you off in a heartbeat if you suck. Same with Kirby. That is what I'm told Hugh want to build. High caliber kids who want to play and be at your program all while making great, most cases life changing money. 

I've know Jimbo way back when he was the QB coach at AU. He was a good guy. But how many of his ex-players say anything good about him? I don't know of any? Says alot about his culture and running of a football program. He learned under one of the best that has ever been, cheating in football. Bobby Bowden. But he isn't a pimple on Bobby's butt personality wise. 

[WarDamnEagleWDE 12,737]

Let me ask this question here with A&M and it's endless money, what has it got them in the past 100 years? ALL THAT MONEY? They just get all that money? Why aren't they dominating football like bama and uga are doing? Beat up on Ohio State? Longhorn's little brother? 

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One other note: if an auction ends in December, why engage in a bidding war against a deep-ppcketed suitor for the next 5 months? Wouldn't it be wiser to hold off on making a higher offer until right before the auction closes?

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2 minutes ago, phillyeagle said:

One other note: if an auction ends in December, why engage in a bidding war against a deep-ppcketed suitor for the next 5 months? Wouldn't it be wiser to hold off on making a higher offer until right before the auction closes?

Coleman is real good. Could be a gamechanger. But he isn't worth a huge bidding war. Just not. There is more to this than just paying a kid. You also have to juggle who you have currently on the team. This stuff matters. People have to think about these things. It just isn't as simple as most think it is or should be. 

These things will affect a locker room. You lose that locker room, you won't win anything. 

Edited July 10, 2023 by WarDamnEagleWDE

[Mikey 16,781]

13 minutes ago, WarDamnEagleWDE said:

This isn't over with Coleman. AU won't match what A&M will offer some kids. Even if AU had money to burn. Hugh isn't interested in kids who are in it for just the money. AU will get kids who want to make great money and be at AU at the same time. That was my point. Don't get me wrong here, AU has plenty of NIL money for football. That isn't or hasn't been any problems. I don't care what the public AU NIL thing says. 

I've been saying this same thing on these board since I started posting here 10 years ago it seems, AU has plenty of money. People that no one has ever heard of with money. Money has never been a problem. Leadership and pissing away good people's money has been the problem. 

It's not over, unless A&M wants to pull out an excessive amount of money. If they do choose to do that and money is Coleman's main motivator, it's over.

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18 minutes ago, Mikey said:

It's not over, unless A&M wants to pull out an excessive amount of money. If they do choose to do that and money is Coleman's main motivator, it's over.

You are 100% correct here. AU will not and is not going to get in a bidding war for Coleman or any kid like this. That is the whole point. Not sure what you point is here? You are acting like AU is poor. I'm telling and have been for years, AU has PLENTY of money. Money has NEVER been an AU problem. Leadership has been AU's problem. Not money. 

[bigbird 60,926]

11 minutes ago, WarDamnEagleWDE said:

 Leadership has been AU's problem. Not money. 

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6 minutes ago, bigbird said:

Big vision. 

[DAG 34,552]

I sensed some A&M s*** talk coming from this thread and I am here for it 

[bigbird 60,926]

10 minutes ago, DAG said:

I sensed some A&M s*** talk coming from this thread and I am here for it 

 

[LPTiger 5,455]

2 minutes ago, bigbird said:

 

So odd on so many levels.

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Just now, LPTiger said:

So odd on so many levels.

The movements are just so weird.

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2 hours ago, WarDamnEagleWDE said:

Let me ask this question here with A&M and it's endless money, what has it got them in the past 100 years? ALL THAT MONEY? They just get all that money? Why aren't they dominating football like bama and uga are doing? Beat up on Ohio State? Longhorn's little brother? 

I try to beat on this drum every chance I can get.  They are losers.  They always have been.  Always will be.

Jimbo is in the process of self destructing and decimating a program.  Just like he did to FSU and left it in shambles.