Super Bowl

[SaltyTiger 8,638]

4 minutes ago, arein0 said:

Lift Every Voice and Sing was performed in the pre game festivities. The only people on the field besides the performers were the Players being honored as the Walter Payton Player of the Year. The teams hadn't even come out of the locker room yet. They didnt ask anyone to stand, salute, or even be quiet. I'm not sure how people are saying it was put on the same stage as the National Anthem.

No problem with that scenario. Not quite the way it was reported and I did not see it. 

[SaltyTiger 8,638]

24 minutes ago, arein0 said:

Fine, change it from upset to offended.

I am not offended by the song or the confederate flag. Are you?

[arein0 1,109]

5 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said:

No problem with that scenario. Not quite the way it was reported and I did not see it. 

For reference

https://youtu.be/p0Qzu6r40_4

 

[Mims44 2,033]

41 minutes ago, arein0 said:

I have a question to everyone that is offended by the playing of the song "Lift Every Voice and Sing." 

Do you all get this upset anytime you see a Confederate Flag? 

If it's just some dude wearing it.... not really.

 

 

If at an NFL game they raised the confederate flag to the same height as the American flag and then instructed everyone to face the 'white' american flag. Yeah, that'd be offensive.

[SaltyTiger 8,638]

45 minutes ago, arein0 said:

For reference

https://youtu.be/p0Qzu6r40_4

 

Guess I will have to in entirety if I choose. As it staged to appear as two national anthems?

[arein0 1,109]

31 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said:

Guess I will have to in entirety if I choose. As it staged to appear as two national anthems?

It wasnt staged to appear as 2 national anthems. This next part goes for both sides, but this is the most recent example. Politicians and journalism have switched from dealing with facts to dealing with emotions. The whole reason this is even a thing is because 2 Right Wing Politicians posted tweets they knew would emotionally trigger their base. After seeing the response, the journalists followed suit and posted articles with emotionally triggering titles / articles to rake in the views / shares. 

When what actually happened was the song was not staged as a national anthem, "black national anthem" wasnt mentioned, the players were still in the locker room, and this was played to conclude the Walter Payton Man of the Year ceremony, the reason they kept showing Dak Prescott.

[Son of A Tiger 649]

3 hours ago, arein0 said:

Lift Every Voice and Sing was performed in the pre game festivities. The only people on the field besides the performers were the Players being honored as the Walter Payton Player of the Year. The teams hadn't even come out of the locker room yet. They didnt ask anyone to stand, salute, or even be quiet. I'm not sure how people are saying it was put on the same stage as the National Anthem.

Because that's the way it was advertised.

Black National Anthem performed at Super Bowl for first time (yahoo.com)

[arein0 1,109]

21 minutes ago, Son of A Tiger said:

Because that's the way it was advertised.

Black National Anthem performed at Super Bowl for first time (yahoo.com)

That article was written after the game finished, so not an advertisement. 

If it was advertised that way, why did barely any one know what the song was until after the game. Must be poor advertisers.

Edited February 17, 2023 by arein0

[johnnyAU 3,745]

3 hours ago, arein0 said:

It wasnt staged to appear as 2 national anthems. This next part goes for both sides, but this is the most recent example. Politicians and journalism have switched from dealing with facts to dealing with emotions. The whole reason this is even a thing is because 2 Right Wing Politicians posted tweets they knew would emotionally trigger their base. After seeing the response, the journalists followed suit and posted articles with emotionally triggering titles / articles to rake in the views / shares. 

When what actually happened was the song was not staged as a national anthem, "black national anthem" wasnt mentioned, the players were still in the locker room, and this was played to conclude the Walter Payton Man of the Year ceremony, the reason they kept showing Dak Prescott.

Same thing happens universally. Remember the whole Nick Sandmann incident? The initial shorter, cropped video circulated at first and he was touted as an indignant racist teen. The emotions went wild, Twitter erupted, a bunch of idiot celebrities said some vile things about the kid and he probably even got some death threats. Then, when the dust settled and the real story emerged...

Just saying, hyperbole stirs emotions and that is the ultimate clickbait. This has always been the case, but in this strange era of instantaneous access, fear porn appears to be rising as the #1 instrument. It is deployed by all sides and with frightening efficiency. I believe it is the result of a few issues. 

1. We have apparently dumbed down significantly over the years. I worry about our lack of appropriate education across the board.

2. We seem to have grown a voracious appetite to be outraged, maybe caused by such access that we have become bored with regular, mundane emotions that we now crave the extreme.

3. We have become so willing to believe anything we read or hear, without the slightest shred of verifiable evidence. We see, we believe, we react with extreme emotion. This is especially true with polarizing subjects like politics and religion. 

[Son of A Tiger 649]

5 hours ago, arein0 said:

That article was written after the game finished, so not an advertisement. 

If it was advertised that way, why did barely any one know what the song was until after the game. Must be poor advertisers.

Then how about this one? I don't know why you can't accept it is regarded as the Black National Anthem regardless of it being sung at the Super Bowl.

“Lift Every Voice and Sing” Is the Official Black National Anthem — a Look at Its History (msn.com)

[arein0 1,109]

10 hours ago, Son of A Tiger said:

Then how about this one? I don't know why you can't accept it is regarded as the Black National Anthem regardless of it being sung at the Super Bowl.

“Lift Every Voice and Sing” Is the Official Black National Anthem — a Look at Its History (msn.com)

Okay congrats you found 1 article posted before the Super Bowl. It still doesnt change the fact that it wasnt advertised that way. There was no mention of "black national anthem" while it was sung. You are making it seem like the PA made it appear as if it were the National Anthem or the song was given the same platform as the National Anthem and that is disingenuous and historically inaccurate. Are you getting hung up on the fact that it was labeled the "Black National Anthem" 100 years ago when segregation was a thing? You do realize that song represents hope that one day that community will be treated as equals, right? It's just silly to me that you are offended after it was played (and told you should be) versus before. This tells me you are choosing to be offended vs actually being offended. 

[Son of A Tiger 649]

1 hour ago, arein0 said:

Okay congrats you found 1 article posted before the Super Bowl. It still doesnt change the fact that it wasnt advertised that way. There was no mention of "black national anthem" while it was sung. You are making it seem like the PA made it appear as if it were the National Anthem or the song was given the same platform as the National Anthem and that is disingenuous and historically inaccurate. Are you getting hung up on the fact that it was labeled the "Black National Anthem" 100 years ago when segregation was a thing? You do realize that song represents hope that one day that community will be treated as equals, right? It's just silly to me that you are offended after it was played (and told you should be) versus before. This tells me you are choosing to be offended vs actually being offended. 

I never said I was offended. I just stated the fact that the song the lady sang is widely known as the Black National Anthem. If you want to see more articles/info just Google it.

[arein0 1,109]

On 2/13/2023 at 10:09 AM, Son of A Tiger said:

I didn't know we had a black national anthem either. 

 

21 minutes ago, Son of A Tiger said:

I never said I was offended. I just stated the fact that the song the lady sang is widely known as the Black National Anthem. If you want to see more articles/info just Google it.

So now it's widely known when most didnt know what that song was until the next day? I dont know what your definition of widely known is, but mine is common knowledge. Again if this is such a big deal, why wasnt it brought up as controversial leading up to the Super Bowl? It's not like they snuck it in.

[homersapien 12,287]

On 2/14/2023 at 8:29 AM, PUB78 said:

I never was a big NFL fan but pretty well stopped watching any games when the SF QB started taking a knee. The NFL has embraced a social justice agenda .

I did watch a lot of this Super Bowl since we were at a birthday party and because of the Christian testimony of the two quarterbacks.

Is it OK for me to interject "uppity blacks" now Salty?  

[homersapien 12,287]

On 2/14/2023 at 8:38 PM, SaltyTiger said:

The black national anthem was not “in”the halftime show Brother Homer. 

OK, that changes everything.  I take it back. 

[homersapien 12,287]

Well, after going through this thread, I now see my problem:  The only thing I watched was the actual football game (which was great.)

Silly me.