NWALA Tiger 3,616 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, CCTAU said: Ah. We have a new set of drama queens show up. Let us remind you that Hugh Freeze is now the coach of the Auburn University Football Team. The Twitter war was lost. Cheer for AU or be gone. They won't give up that easy. They are recruiting replacements for their cause as we speak Edited November 30, 2022 by NWALA Tiger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWALA Tiger 3,616 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 12 hours ago, cbo said: It was said from the beginning that Jimmy Rayne wanted Freeze. Apparently they are friends. Hello... LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 34,763 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, NWALA Tiger said: Hello... LOL 😂😂😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbo 8,728 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, NWALA Tiger said: Hello... LOL Was trying to politely answer someone's question. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubaseball 2,819 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 7 hours ago, JBiGGiE said: Troll alert!!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWALA Tiger 3,616 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 12 minutes ago, cbo said: Was trying to politely answer someone's question. My bad. All good, bro. No offense intended on my part as well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBiGGiE 2,488 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 35 minutes ago, creed said: Can you define ethics in real terms from your perspective for this topic? Absolutely. And I'll refrain from referencing hearsay stories from his time at Briarcrest. As we all know there are generally 12 business ethics principles: Leadership, accountability, integrity, respect for others, honesty, respect for laws, responsibility, transparency, compassion, fairness, loyalty, environmental concern. I've argued that Hugh has taken minimal accountability for his actions. The Houston Nutt lawsuit proved that he lied beyond just being unfaithful to his wife by refusing to admit he called the escort service multiple times. He lied to recruits about Ole Miss' investigation status. He lied by placing blame on Houston Nutt. He cost many players like Shea Patterson at least two years of their eligibility. He failed to own the mistake of messaging Chelsea Andrews (until very recently). And as far as I'm aware, the party he has reconciled with is his family. Now as I've said, I don't don't think that makes him irredeemable but I've seen little evidence to suggest he has changed. Yes, he has asked for us to give him a chance to prove otherwise, and that's a good start. But he has a ways to go before he catches my attention. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietmaninthecorner 2,032 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, JBiGGiE said: Absolutely. And I'll refrain from referencing hearsay stories from his time at Briarcrest. As we all know there are generally 12 business ethics principles: Leadership, accountability, integrity, respect for others, honesty, respect for laws, responsibility, transparency, compassion, fairness, loyalty, environmental concern. I've argued that Hugh has taken minimal accountability for his actions. The Houston Nutt lawsuit proved that he lied beyond just being unfaithful to his wife by refusing to admit he called the escort service multiple times. He lied to recruits about Ole Miss' investigation status. He lied by placing blame on Houston Nutt. He cost many players like Shea Patterson at least two years of their eligibility. He failed to own the mistake of messaging Chelsea Andrews (until very recently). And as far as I'm aware, the party he has reconciled with is his family. Now as I've said, I don't don't think that makes him irredeemable but I've seen little evidence to suggest he has changed. Yes, he has asked for us to give him a chance to prove otherwise, and that's a good start. But he has a ways to go before he catches my attention. We get it. you don't like Freeze. What is your end game with all this complaining about Freeze? Freeze is our HC. There is nothing you can do about it. How does all the negative crap you post help the team or Auburn in ANY way? What do you hope to accomplish other than dragging down the team, school, and fan support? With fans like you, who needs bammers. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBiGGiE 2,488 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Quietmaninthecorner said: We get it. you don't like Freeze. What is your end game with all this complaining about Freeze? Freeze is our HC. There is nothing you can do about it. How does all the negative crap you post help the team or Auburn in ANY way? What do you hope to accomplish other than dragging down the team, school, and fan support? With fans like you, who needs bammers. Why does anyone rant on a message board? Literally why do any of us post on the internet knowing it makes no tangible difference? Because it's cathartic. Because it disappoints me how my fellow fans can become so desperate to win that they'd throw principal out the window. But maybe, just maybe... I can convince someone to agree with my opinion. And miss me the the Bammer crap. With fans like you, why should Auburn strive for excellence in all facets? Why should integrity matter? Just get in line, buy your merch, and clap for whoever the YellaFella has ordained like a good little fan? Just like a Bammer... 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,939 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 FTR, this really is the only time Jimmy has gotten his way. I'm interested to see how it plays. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWALA Tiger 3,616 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, JBiGGiE said: Why does anyone rant on a message board? Literally why do any of us post on the internet knowing it makes no tangible difference? Because it's cathartic. Because it disappoints me how my fellow fans can become so desperate to win that they'd throw principal out the window. But maybe, just maybe... I can convince someone to agree with my opinion. And miss me the the Bammer crap. With fans like you, why should Auburn strive for excellence in all facets? Why should integrity matter? Just get in line, buy your merch, and clap for whoever the YellaFella has ordained like a good little fan? Just like a Bammer... Are u okay, bro? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietmaninthecorner 2,032 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, JBiGGiE said: Why does anyone rant on a message board? Literally why do any of us post on the internet knowing it makes no tangible difference? Because it's cathartic. Because it disappoints me how my fellow fans can become so desperate to win that they'd throw principal out the window. But maybe, just maybe... I can convince someone to agree with my opinion. And miss me the the Bammer crap. With fans like you, why should Auburn strive for excellence in all facets? Why should integrity matter? Just get in line, buy your merch, and clap for whoever the YellaFella has ordained like a good little fan? Just like a Bammer... you are not going to change anything but bring down the team school and fans. You are just making your worst case scenario even worse. If you need psychological relief, go to a therapist. In the mean time, do what you can to help the team and not bring it down. or, Come join the light side. It is much more fun over here. We have cookies and hookers. Edited November 30, 2022 by Quietmaninthecorner 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bigbird 60,939 Posted November 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2022 Guys, it's okay for them to feel down about the hire . We all have our own reservations to some degree. Hopefully, like he asked for yesterday, people will give him time to prove himself changed, no matter their level of disappointment. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietmaninthecorner 2,032 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, bigbird said: FTR, this really is the only time Jimmy has gotten his way. I'm interested to see how it plays. BigB, with all the respect I can get across in text.... do we KNOW Jimmy was the big power player in this? Seems obvious, but also seems like a good scape goat that is easily believed. I hear Jimmy this and Jimmy that all the time. I am not close enough to the situation to know for sure. Just curious as to if this is just "assumed common knowledge", or a hard fact that can be proven. (not asking you to prove it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,939 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Just as a thought experiment... How many Auburn fans in Georgia that are against the Freeze hiring do you think voted for Herschel. FTR, This isn't a politics question. Don't devolve it into one, please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,939 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Quietmaninthecorner said: BigB, with all the respect I can get across in text.... do we KNOW Jimmy was the big power player in this? Seems obvious, but also seems like a good scape goat that is easily believed. I hear Jimmy this and Jimmy that all the time. I am not close enough to the situation to know for sure. Just curious as to if this is just "assumed common knowledge", or a hard fact that can be proven. (not asking you to prove it) I heard that there was a coalition led by Jimmy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietmaninthecorner 2,032 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 minute ago, bigbird said: I heard that there was a coalition led by Jimmy. thanks. (out of thumbs up already today.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,939 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 31 minutes ago, bigbird said: I heard that there was a coalition led by Jimmy. To be clear, the $$$ stayed far away from the search until the Lane fiasco And Freeze was always a top candidate I never thought he was viable due to Sankey. I was wrong. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFazz 386 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 12 minutes ago, bigbird said: I never thought he was viable due to Sankey. I was wrong. I was a little surprised by the Sankey discussion during the nucon. I always took for Gospel that Sankey had blocked his hiring on more than one occasion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warnugget 127 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 12 hours ago, JBiGGiE said: Hugh Freeze's phone has gotten him in hot water not once, but twice (that we know of). If our AD didn't have the wherewithal to stipulate that he give up his social media, then yes, that is negligence. Now what's truly sensational is watching this PR firm take the laundry list of his issues and try to whitewash them with their own curated list of "facts". If you're constantly having to put out fires, you probably shouldn't hire an arson... So you agree that it wasn’t “criminally negligent”. Glad that we could meet in the middle on something. War Eagle. ❤️ 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warnugget 127 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, JBiGGiE said: Absolutely. And I'll refrain from referencing hearsay stories from his time at Briarcrest. As we all know there are generally 12 business ethics principles: Leadership, accountability, integrity, respect for others, honesty, respect for laws, responsibility, transparency, compassion, fairness, loyalty, environmental concern. I've argued that Hugh has taken minimal accountability for his actions. The Houston Nutt lawsuit proved that he lied beyond just being unfaithful to his wife by refusing to admit he called the escort service multiple times. He lied to recruits about Ole Miss' investigation status. He lied by placing blame on Houston Nutt. He cost many players like Shea Patterson at least two years of their eligibility. He failed to own the mistake of messaging Chelsea Andrews (until very recently). And as far as I'm aware, the party he has reconciled with is his family. Now as I've said, I don't don't think that makes him irredeemable but I've seen little evidence to suggest he has changed. Yes, he has asked for us to give him a chance to prove otherwise, and that's a good start. But he has a ways to go before he catches my attention. This is much more rational than most of the anti-Freeze posts I’ve been seeing. I can respect that even if I don’t 100% agree with it all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creed 1,790 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 2 hours ago, JBiGGiE said: Absolutely. And I'll refrain from referencing hearsay stories from his time at Briarcrest. As we all know there are generally 12 business ethics principles: Leadership, accountability, integrity, respect for others, honesty, respect for laws, responsibility, transparency, compassion, fairness, loyalty, environmental concern. I've argued that Hugh has taken minimal accountability for his actions. The Houston Nutt lawsuit proved that he lied beyond just being unfaithful to his wife by refusing to admit he called the escort service multiple times. He lied to recruits about Ole Miss' investigation status. He lied by placing blame on Houston Nutt. He cost many players like Shea Patterson at least two years of their eligibility. He failed to own the mistake of messaging Chelsea Andrews (until very recently). And as far as I'm aware, the party he has reconciled with is his family. Now as I've said, I don't don't think that makes him irredeemable but I've seen little evidence to suggest he has changed. Yes, he has asked for us to give him a chance to prove otherwise, and that's a good start. But he has a ways to go before he catches my attention. Are all 12 ethics weighted equally and what is a passing score? Is it 100%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnatl1 6,173 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Has any university ever hired a coach before with this much known and baked-in fan polarization? Or close to it? Would be interesting to see how it evolved.and ended up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 34,763 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, bigbird said: Just as a thought experiment... How many Auburn fans in Georgia that are against the Freeze hiring do you think voted for Herschel. FTR, This isn't a politics question. Don't devolve it into one, please. BB, with all due respect, there is no way you can ask something like this without it transitioning to some sort of social construct from a political stance. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWALA Tiger 3,616 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, auburnatl1 said: Has any university ever hired a coach before with this much known and baked-in fan polarization? Or close to it? Would be interesting to see how it evolved.and ended up. I'm not sure how many are actually against his hiring . To me it seems like a bunch are against it, but actually I think it's very few outside of the twitter warriors. Most who are for it won't get on twitter or come on this board and argue their points. For that, they are alot smarter than me Edited November 30, 2022 by NWALA Tiger 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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