AUinMS9528 1,086 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 He is actively trying to sabotage the AU football program!!!π‘ And just our luck, that happens to be the one and only thing heβs good at!!!π©π΅ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aucom96 1,658 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, woodford said: Steven Leath was the worst thing to ever happen to Auburn Fixed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWALA Tiger 3,698 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 What happened with Landen King? Wasn't he granted a redshirt,? Did it get taken away? There is some lapse in the timing here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,979 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 14 minutes ago, woodford said: Allen Greene was the worst thing to ever happen to Auburn Nope the man who hired him was 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.E.D 11,071 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, woodford said: Allen Greene was the worst thing to ever happen to Auburn Nah, Leath was.Β Everything started with him.Β Horrendous Gus contract, Greene, Harsin, etc Β Edit: see this was addressed Edited October 26, 2022 by W.E.D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryAU 1,894 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 11 hours ago, Tigerpro2a said: I think a new rule should come where if a player meets the eligibility requirement (played in less than 4 games) they are automatically redshirted. This would save schools, players, and coaches all alike on this type of bs. I don't see any negatives? I mean...why wouldn't a coach want his players to have every bit of eligibility available? Am I missing something?Β What if a player requests a redshirt rather than finishing out the rest of the season and uses that year of eligibility to enter the transfer portal?Β Why let a player preserver a year of eligibility just so that he can use it on another team?Β Maybe that's what Harsin is thinking?Β IDK Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperAUsome09 764 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 We are 2 weeks past when Harsin should've been let go, but because the administration has played the pacifist, Harsin is now conducting scorched earth. *slow claps sarcastically* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennypowers 1,431 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 This along w/ Landon King's transfer should be the death blow.Β I'd rather have the potential of Landon King than the potential of Harsin. Landon King > Harsin when it comes to potential. Β 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 35,068 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, JerryAU said: What if a player requests a redshirt rather than finishing out the rest of the season and uses that year of eligibility to enter the transfer portal?Β Why let a player preserver a year of eligibility just so that he can use it on another team?Β Maybe that's what Harsin is thinking?Β IDK Β Β Chances are if he gotten the redshirt he wouldnβt have put himself in the portal. CBH pretty much ( presumably) said forego this idea of the red shirt or transfer, so I highly doubt that was his intentionsΒ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodford 3,751 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, W.E.D said: Nah, Leath was.Β Everything started with him.Β Horrendous Gus contract, Greene, Harsin, etc Β Edit: see this was addressed I agree and would probably change my comment, but Allen Greene made a terrible hire. An incompetent president hired a fraud AD, fraud AD hires fraud HC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotsAU 1,390 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, woodford said: I agree and would probably change my comment, but Allen Greene made a terrible hire. An incompetent president hired a fraud AD, fraud AD hires fraud HC. Nah man. It all goes back to the board and Steele. AG was on his 5th or 6th option when he hired Harsin. There werenβt a lot of great coaches looking to move that year. Heck Cristobal was considered the top coach available, and look how heβs turned out. After the delay from the Steele incident and the drama around that, what few coaches were still available passed on the job and went elsewhere or chose to stay where they were. (Cristobal was one of them.) Not even AG wanted Harsin.Β Edited October 26, 2022 by ScotsAU 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodford 3,751 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, ScotsAU said: Nah man. It all goes back to the board and Steele. AG was on his 5th or 6th option when he hired Harsin. There werenβt a lot of great coaches looking to move that year. Heck Cristobal was considered the top coach available, and look how heβs turned out. After the delay from the Steele incident and the drama around that, what few coaches were still available passed on the job and went elsewhere or chose to stay where they were. (Cristobal was one of them.) Not even AG wanted Harsin.Β Allen Greene didn't want Harsin? Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryAU 1,894 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, DAG said: Β Chances are if he gotten the redshirt he wouldnβt have put himself in the portal. CBH pretty much ( presumably) said forego this idea of the red shirt or transfer, so I highly doubt that was his intentionsΒ Everything's a chance when the HC is a dead man walking.Β How he's been retained this long is beyond me, but as long as he's AU's head football coach, he has every right to call the shots relative to his players.Β I've just never heard of a player going to the coach mid-season and requesting a redshirt year, or really any other time during the season.?.? When coach tells you to get your helmet on and get in the game.... do players say, "nah coach I'm taking a redshirt"??Β I mean how does that interaction play out in real time?Β Β Β 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 35,068 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 minute ago, JerryAU said: Everything's a chance when the HC is a dead man walking.Β How he's been retained this long is beyond me, but as long as he's AU's head football coach, he has every right to call the shots relative to his players.Β I've just never heard of a player going to the coach mid-season and requesting a redshirt year, or really any other time during the season.?.? When coach tells you to get your helmet on and get in the game.... do players say, "nah coach I'm taking a redshirt"??Β I mean how does that interaction play out in real time?Β Β Β You probably never heard of that but have you seen any situation like this before ? Again, I would be for respect to the nature of the coach , if this coach had not shown time and time again he has no respect for others. Secondly , I doubt it played out like this as LK would LOVE PT.Β Β The scenario I see is LK was told what he had to do to get on the field. He worked hard and did all of this stuff, only to barely see playing time. He now feels like he has barely any film and it is not getting better. He probably isnβt stupid and realizes this staff is gone next year. So he is at a crossroad. In his mind he would rather not lose a year of eligibility on a wasted year to continue to grow as a player. That is how I see this playing out.Β 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 35,068 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, woodford said: Allen Greene didn't want Harsin? Ok. AG wanted Harsin. The alternative was CKS which people keep forgetting about. There is a whole spectrum that doesnβt get discussed in this. My question is how are you guys going to feel when the same order events happen when you no longer can blame people who arenβt here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotsAU 1,390 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DAG said: AG wanted Harsin. The alternative was CKS which people keep forgetting about. There is a whole spectrum that doesnβt get discussed in this. My question is how are you guys going to feel when the same order events happen when you no longer can blame people who arenβt here? I think it was Justin Ferguson that reported it. Harsin was way down AGβa list. Mario Cristobal was on his list. As was Billy Napier. Both coaches passed on the job. I worry that we may have a repeat of the last time, where no coach wants to step into this mess. Β The Kirby Smart interview was way back in 2013 when we hired Gus. He wanted to run the program just like Saban. That wouldnβt have worked out here with Auburnβs culture and boosters. He also would not have given us an SEC championship in 2013 had he been hired. Those players were meant for Malzahnβs spread. Kirby wouldβve wanted to install more of a pro style attack, and it wouldnβt have gone well at first.Β Edited October 26, 2022 by ScotsAU 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cole256 17,085 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 This is the part where you want somebody who's priority is the students. This also somewhat validates the players that said he literally don't give a damn about them 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpro2a 5,650 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 47 minutes ago, JerryAU said: What if a player requests a redshirt rather than finishing out the rest of the season and uses that year of eligibility to enter the transfer portal?Β Why let a player preserver a year of eligibility just so that he can use it on another team?Β Maybe that's what Harsin is thinking?Β IDK Β I get that. I think we are looking at it from 2 different angles. What I am saying is at the end of the season, if a player played in 4 games or less, he should be granted the redshirt, period...whether he wants it, the coach wants it or whatever. It should be automatic.Β Now...to your point...if a player ask for a redshirt to sit out the year, that is kind of a different story all together. I kind of see both sides honestly. If a player is good enough to be playing and isn't, well then he will get his redshirt anyways if he didn't play in 4 games (with my rule proposal). If a player is good enough to play and is playing and ask the coach for a redshirt to sit, I kind of understand not giving it to him. I see both sides there.Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smackydoodle 200 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, cole256 said: This is the part where you want somebody who's priority is the students. This also somewhat validates the players that said he literally don't give a damn about them This is where I am on this story. To a point I don't blame Harsin from a coaching perspective, but in the end the University and the team is for what's best for the students. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpro2a 5,650 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 13 minutes ago, ScotsAU said: I think it was Justin Ferguson that reported it. Harsin was way down AGβa list. Mario Cristobal was on his list. As was Billy Napier. Both coaches passed on the job. I worry that we may have a repeat of the last time, where no coach wants to step into this mess. Β The Kirby Smart interview was way back in 2013 when we hired Gus. He wanted to run the program just like Saban. That wouldnβt have worked out here with Auburnβs culture and boosters. He also would not have given us an SEC championship in 2013 had he been hired. Those players were meant for Malzahnβs spread. Kirby wouldβve wanted to install more of a pro style attack, and it wouldnβt have gone well at first.Β Pretty sure he was referring to Coach Kevin Steele, Not Kirby Smart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpro2a 5,650 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Just now, smackydoodle said: This is where I am on this story. To a point I don't blame Harsin from a coaching perspective, but in the end the University and the team is for what's best for the students. Same here man. I see both sides, honestly. If I was coaching, I don't know that I would do anything differently in regards to this. It's a tough one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnatl1 6,223 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Assuming itβs true and thereβs not a demonic possession going on - thatβs nuts. Hard to believe he would try to torpedo us this blatantly. Β Thatβs a vindictive rep that puts you in the creepy box and makes you practically unhirable.Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 35,068 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 23 minutes ago, ScotsAU said: I think it was Justin Ferguson that reported it. Harsin was way down AGβa list. Mario Cristobal was on his list. As was Billy Napier. Both coaches passed on the job. I worry that we may have a repeat of the last time, where no coach wants to step into this mess. Β The Kirby Smart interview was way back in 2013 when we hired Gus. He wanted to run the program just like Saban. That wouldnβt have worked out here with Auburnβs culture and boosters. He also would not have given us an SEC championship in 2013 had he been hired. Those players were meant for Malzahnβs spread. Kirby wouldβve wanted to install more of a pro style attack, and it wouldnβt have gone well at first.Β I was talking Steele not smart.Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Eye 7 2,535 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 13 hours ago, NWALA Tiger said: Roberts is the one who could put a stop to all this. Why he is dragging his feet is beyond me. I'm wondering if Harsin is trying to do as much harm as possible b4 leaving Exactly they could have fired him for cause last spring had they had the courage to do so. Now once again the people in charge have screwed Auburn again. I think it is time to start removing the people in charge that have blocked the removal of Harsin. We owe it to the players to get it done now . If not we may not have a single player left on the squad come January. π€π¦ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryAU 1,894 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tigerpro2a said: I get that. I think we are looking at it from 2 different angles. What I am saying is at the end of the season, if a player played in 4 games or less, he should be granted the redshirt, period...whether he wants it, the coach wants it or whatever. It should be automatic.Β Now...to your point...if a player ask for a redshirt to sit out the year, that is kind of a different story all together. I kind of see both sides honestly. If a player is good enough to be playing and isn't, well then he will get his redshirt anyways if he didn't play in 4 games (with my rule proposal). If a player is good enough to play and is playing and ask the coach for a redshirt to sit, I kind of understand not giving it to him. I see both sides there.Β Auburn's specific scenario is a two-edged sword.Β Strictly from a coaching perspective why would you grant a redshirt to a player mid-season when the player is in essence quitting mid-season? IF you allow him to redshirt then he can take that year of eligibility to the transfer portal and use with the lax inner-conference transfer rules, he can use it against you later.Β A HC granting a redshirt request mid-season sets a dangerous precedent for his team down the road.Β It lays a foundation for others to do the same.Β I'm just not a proponent of players quitting mid-season unless it's for medical reasons.Β IF a player doesn't want to earn the scholarship and doesn't want to play for the team then he can leave.Β BUT in Auburn's situation, the HC is a lame duck, and the optics reflect a HC who's obstinate with little compassion for his players.Β This reinforces what former AU players claimed in last season's mass exodus.Β Β I suppose this is different now, because I distinctly remember many posters on this board calling all those transfer players a bunch of quitters, and they had sour grapes but I'm not seeing the same opinions on this current situation?Β 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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