Eagle-1 3,821 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Didba said: Why? Well, what exactly qualifies Deion Sanders to run a big time football program? I admit the novelty of it all, but that's about as far as it goes. Auburn needs a qualified experienced coach that has a history of either leading a successful program, or a coordinator that has understudied for several years at a big time program. I have nothing personally against Deion, but his coaching experience is highly limited. He could turn out to be a great coach in the future, who knows? Some people seem to believe that he would currently be a force on the recruiting trail, but I can also see where his limited experience could also be relatively easy for guys like Saban, Kirby, and Dabo to negatively recruit against. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWALA Tiger 3,695 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Hay Field 101 said: So you sell your soul , integrity, and reputation for a cash payout? Have at it brother. Harsin ain't selling nothing. He just isnt getting the job done. Has nothing to do with his soul, integrity or anything like that. Now, If he is tanking and not trying in recruiting or getting the team ready then yes he is selling himself out. Nothing personal but he chose a results demanded career.. Tell me another profession where u can fail miserably and walk away a multi millionaire? Edited September 25, 2022 by NWALA Tiger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper 3,537 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, EagleEye67 said: "Godwins Law (modified):Godwin's law is an Internet adage asserting that as an online discussion of SEC coaching failure grows longer, the probability of a mention of Saban losing to LA-Monroe approaches 1." I didn’t bring LA Monroe up to say that even Saban has dropped one to a non-P5. I could have simply stated Saban lost 6 games his first season. The point was despite a pitiful first season in which he was coaching Shula’s recruits, he was recruiting like a madman to replace those scrubs. Edited September 25, 2022 by Viper 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamp Eagle 5,314 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 12 hours ago, Auburn Tiger said: It’s prime time, baby! That would be the all-time JABA coaching hire in history. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hay Field 101 669 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, NWALA Tiger said: Harsin ain't selling nothing. Tell me another profession where u can fail miserably and walk away a multi millionaire? I am not here to argue with you about whos right and wrong. That was in my second sentence of my original post. I don't need to be or want to be the champion of the watercooler or message board. My simple opinion is that no matter the price no man worth his salt should be "ok" with a failure shank hung around his neck. If being rich and a know looser and failure is ok with you than so be it. That "ok I failed and took their money" should eat at every mans gut if he is a true leader and winner. Its all yours sir have a wonderful Sunday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper 3,537 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Swamp Eagle said: That would be the all-time JABA coaching hire in history. No that happened 12/22/20. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle-1 3,821 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Personally, if I'm the athletic director at Auburn it were to fall to me to hire a new football coach I would have one guy at the top of my list, and that would be Luke Fickell. His resume is arguably the best in the country who is not currently coaching at what one would call a blue blood program. True, he's never coached in the SEC, but neither had Nick Saban, or Urban Meyer before they took over SEC programs. I would go all in to try to hire this guy, but that's just me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didba 5,511 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, Swamp Eagle said: That would be the all-time JABA coaching hire in history. Hard disagree. It would be the exact opposite. Hiring Gus back or Freeze would be the all-time JABA coaching hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didba 5,511 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, Viper said: No that happened 12/22/20. 2012 says hello 9 minutes ago, Hay Field 101 said: I am not here to argue with you about whos right and wrong. That was in my second sentence of my original post. I don't need to be or want to be the champion of the watercooler or message board. My simple opinion is that no matter the price no man worth his salt should be "ok" with a failure shank hung around his neck. If being rich and a know looser and failure is ok with you than so be it. That "ok I failed and took their money" should eat at every mans gut if he is a true leader and winner. Its all yours sir have a wonderful Sunday. 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autiger88 3,874 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 21 minutes ago, Swamp Eagle said: That would be the all-time JABA coaching hire in history. @DAG @bigbird@Didba lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper 3,537 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 26 minutes ago, Eagle-1 said: Well, what exactly qualifies Deion Sanders to run a big time football program? I admit the novelty of it all, but that's about as far as it goes. Auburn needs a qualified experienced coach that has a history of either leading a successful program, or a coordinator that has understudied for several years at a big time program. I have nothing personally against Deion, but his coaching experience is highly limited. He could turn out to be a great coach in the future, who knows? Some people seem to believe that he would currently be a force on the recruiting trail, but I can also see where his limited experience could also be relatively easy for guys like Saban, Kirby, and Dabo to negatively recruit against. He only flipped the #1 recruit from his alma mater…to Jackson freaking State. Prime has the clout to not only recruit, but the clout to hire quality assistants. No, it wouldn’t begin immediately. It didn’t for Saban/Kirby/Dabo immediately either. If you’re a HC who can recruit, the assistants will come. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didba 5,511 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just now, Viper said: He only flipped the #1 recruit from his alma mater…to Jackson freaking State. Prime has the clout to not only recruit, but the clout to hire quality assistants. No, it wouldn’t begin immediately. It didn’t for Saban/Kirby/Dabo immediately either. If you’re a HC who can recruit, the assistants will come. He also has pull with NFL coaches. His DC is an NFL coach Deon pulled out of retirement 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 34,939 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 27 minutes ago, Swamp Eagle said: That would be the all-time JABA coaching hire in history. That is the biggest opposite of anything JABA man come on. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autiger88 3,874 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Didba said: He also has pull with NFL coaches. His DC is an NFL coach Deon pulled out of retirement I said this the other day and got told so what he was fired...blah blah 😒😂 Edited September 25, 2022 by autiger88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didba 5,511 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, autiger88 said: I said the other day and got told so what he was fired blah blah 😂 Lot of “cop out responses/my opinions are right and I’m not here to argue, k, bye” energy by some posters on the board right now. I’m referring to the drive by posts in the post-game thread Edited September 25, 2022 by Didba 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuCivilEng1 12,293 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 hour ago, NWALA Tiger said: Curious as to what the appeal is with Grimes. I know he was an assistant here b4. But he hasn't ever been a head coach.. And I know some assistants have made it as head coaches but some have bombed out too. He is from TX I believe??? How do we know how he would do here? We don’t know how anyone would do here. But Grimes is a good OC, respected, knows the area, knows Auburn, seems like a good culture fit, no baggage, and he’s a very accomplished Oline coach and recruiter (Auburns biggest need). I think he would be loved in Auburn, and he just seems like a perfect fit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didba 5,511 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, DAG said: That is the biggest opposite of anything JABA man come on. Hahaha right? JABA is hiring an old white SEC retread with Auburn connections. Hiring a younger, black, former NFL superstar is not JABA. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportstiger 13 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 I don’t care how much money you throw at a coach. Any good coach wants to run his own program without one hand tied behind his back or looking over his shoulder. Auburn’s past shows that won’t happen! These actions have a negative effect on hiring a coach and recruiting. Coaches call other coaches before making a decision to apply for coaching vacancies. Until Auburn proves it will give a coach full control of the program and support them it will be the SOS! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hay Field 101 669 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Didba said: Lot of “cop out responses/my opinions are right and I’m not here to argue, k, bye” energy by som posters on the board right now. 🐈 you have it in for me today don't you ? What's you beef with me and why did you single me out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autiger88 3,874 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Didba said: Lot of “cop out responses/my opinions are right and I’m not here to argue, k, bye” energy by som posters on the board right now. 🐈 It was a certain poster who apparently thinks Deion would be the worst coach we could hire. Ask me to prove who he knows in the coaching circles like I know who he knows personally. If you think about it though like it's Deion Sanders if he doesn't know coaches well that's a different argument completely lol 🤣 Edited September 25, 2022 by autiger88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didba 5,511 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Hay Field 101 said: you have it in for me today don't you ? What's you beef with me and why did you single me out? No beef. That wasn’t directed at you. I’m referring to some crazy posters in the post-game thread that are still supporting Harsin. Apologies. Edited September 25, 2022 by Didba 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco 617 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 36 minutes ago, Viper said: I didn’t bring LA Monroe up to say that even Saban has dropped one to a non-P5. I could have simply stated Saban lost 6 games his first season. The point was despite a pitiful first season in which he was coaching Shula’s recruits, he was recruiting like a madman to replace those scrubs. This. Even the great Nick Saban couldn’t coach up mid-tier talent to win the SEC. 75% of college is recruiting the talent. 12 minutes ago, Viper said: He only flipped the #1 recruit from his alma mater…to Jackson freaking State. Prime has the clout to not only recruit, but the clout to hire quality assistants. No, it wouldn’t begin immediately. It didn’t for Saban/Kirby/Dabo immediately either. If you’re a HC who can recruit, the assistants will come. Which is why I originally thought the same about Deion as some posters here. But he definitely has the swagger and mentality to indeed go in and scare the Jimbos, Kirby’s, and Saban’s of the world. 11 minutes ago, Didba said: He also has pull with NFL coaches. His DC is an NFL coach Deon pulled out of retirement This. People seem to turn a blind eye to the “pull” and connections Deion has. I do HOPE he will assemble a good coaching staff at Auburn as he did at JSU for a SWAC school. Final point: Winners like to win, so they find a way to win. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBiGGiE 2,488 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, Viper said: He only flipped the #1 recruit from his alma mater…to Jackson freaking State. Prime has the clout to not only recruit, but the clout to hire quality assistants. No, it wouldn’t begin immediately. It didn’t for Saban/Kirby/Dabo immediately either. If you’re a HC who can recruit, the assistants will come. Did Prime do that? Or did Barstool Sports' NIL deal do that? And let's assume for the sake of argument that it was Barstool Sports' doing. Did they do it because they support Coach Prime and want him to succeed? Or was it for the memes? You have to ask because if it's for the memes, you cannot expect that same level of support to follow him to Auburn if he were to come. Now I agree, I think Deion is an exceptional recruiter... But I don't know that he is. None of us do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWALA Tiger 3,695 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 46 minutes ago, Hay Field 101 said: I am not here to argue with you about whos right and wrong. That was in my second sentence of my original post. I don't need to be or want to be the champion of the watercooler or message board. My simple opinion is that no matter the price no man worth his salt should be "ok" with a failure shank hung around his neck. If being rich and a know looser and failure is ok with you than so be it. That "ok I failed and took their money" should eat at every mans gut if he is a true leader and winner. Its all yours sir have a wonderful Sunday. K. U as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autiger88 3,874 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, JBiGGiE said: Did Prime do that? Or did Barstool Sports' NIL deal do that? And let's assume for the sake of argument that it was Barstool Sports' doing. Did they do it because they support Coach Prime and want him to succeed? Or was it for the memes? You have to ask because if it's for the memes, you cannot expect that same level of support to follow him to Auburn if he were to come. Now I agree, I think Deion is an exceptional recruiter... But I don't know that he is. None of us do. https://www.clarionledger.com/story/sports/college/jackson-state/2021/12/15/travis-hunter-does-not-have-nil-deal-barstool-sports-source-says/8914889002/ According to this and some other articles it was all Deion the Barstool thing was just a rumor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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