gr82b4au 5,583 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Psu and other teams throw quick slants to negate the pass rush. Last year they were 28/32. you are the coach. How do you stop the quick 1 step drop slant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMassie11 1,717 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 3-4 or nickel base. Change up the 4th rusher with blitz packages. Cover 2 with a robber in the middle 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerPAC 1,034 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 DL have to get their hands up. LB play assignment football. DB can’t give 8 yard cushion every play 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dual-Threat Rigby 9,156 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 I know very very little about the defensive side of things, but that game was the first one that demonstrated to me the importance of having linebackers nowadays that can defend the pass. They just made a killing throwing the ball right outside of our LBs relatively limited coverage radiuses. I’ve listened to all the guys that do know more and thought more critically about what I saw last game, and I feel like our newer philosophy of giving a ton of space will only exacerbate the problem… 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
au302 2,669 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Dual-Threat Rigby said: I know very very little about the defensive side of things, but that game was the first one that demonstrated to me the importance of having linebackers nowadays that can defend the pass. They just made a killing throwing the ball right outside of our LBs relatively limited coverage radiuses. I’ve listened to all the guys that do know more and thought more critically about what I saw last game, and I feel like our newer philosophy of giving a ton of space will only exacerbate the problem… Pappoe's strength is supposed to be as a pass-covering LB I thought, but he was nowhere on Saturday it seemed. Riley seems super rangy, but was banged up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastAl_Tiger 229 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 9 hours ago, TigerPAC said: DL have to get their hands up. LB play assignment football. DB can’t give 8 yard cushion every play you're right they can't, but they have and will continue to do so (inexplicably) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUApostle 7,840 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Isn’t this what we had trouble with last week that allowed them to continue long drives and kill clock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubiefifty 18,398 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 10 hours ago, gr82b4au said: Psu and other teams throw quick slants to negate the pass rush. Last year they were 28/32. you are the coach. How do you stop the quick 1 step drop slant? you super glue the qb's fingers together.making sure you add the thumb is a must! but do not tell anyone i told you........grins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDE_OxPx_2010 5,483 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Calling the bird. @bigbird Come flex on them. @Malcolm_FleX48 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDE_OxPx_2010 5,483 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 11 hours ago, JMassie11 said: 3-4 or nickel base. Change up the 4th rusher with blitz packages. Cover 2 with a robber in the middle This is close to what I'd do. 4-2-5, with press coverage. OP in coverage and Riley in MLB. Bring corners and LB alternating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodford 3,754 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, WDE_OxPx_2010 said: This is close to what I'd do. 4-2-5, with press coverage. OP in coverage and Riley in MLB. Bring corners and LB alternating. Pappoe needs to have a big game. Riley needs to have his official coming out party. This linebacker core was praised all off season. They need to live up to the hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMassie11 1,717 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, WDE_OxPx_2010 said: This is close to what I'd do. 4-2-5, with press coverage. OP in coverage and Riley in MLB. Bring corners and LB alternating. Only reason I would mix in the 3-4 is bc with Clifford you are going to play contain with the Ends to force any runs or break down in plays to the middle of the field. Can still mix in rushing 4 but between the guys we have you can mix that up and make it a chess match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didba 5,531 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 11 hours ago, JMassie11 said: 3-4 or nickel base. Change up the 4th rusher with blitz packages. Cover 2 with a robber in the middle This. Also, LBers and DBs lined up close to the line of scrimmage that then drop into coverage into the throwing lane for the slant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,963 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Press man with hard inside leverage with you corners and NB. Punch with your outside hand on the release. That will force the receiver to work along the LoS. 2 shell or robber from your safeties Widen OLB and buzz to H/C upon their key 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUinMS9528 1,086 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 30 minutes ago, bigbird said: Press man with hard inside leverage with you corners and NB. Punch with your outside hand on the release. That will force the receiver to work along the LoS. This^^^ We cannot let them get inside and kill us with slants all day!!!! 12 hours ago, JMassie11 said: Change up the 4th rusher with blitz packages. And this^^^ He’s going to get rid of it quick, so when we blitz, we need to try and confuse the OL and blocking backs to get there quickly!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didba 5,531 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, bigbird said: Press man with hard inside leverage with you corners and NB. Punch with your outside hand on the release. That will force the receiver to work along the LoS. 2 shell or robber from your safeties Widen OLB and buzz to H/C upon their key Would showing outside blitz by a DB that then drops straight back into the slants throwing lane work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,963 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, Didba said: Would showing outside blitz by a DB that then drops straight back into the slants throwing lane work? It would, but if I'm that receiver, I'm checking from a slant to a fade/go 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodford 3,754 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, bigbird said: Press man with hard inside leverage with you corners and NB. Punch with your outside hand on the release. That will force the receiver to work along the LoS. 2 shell or robber from your safeties Widen OLB and buzz to H/C upon their key I'm not a football scheme expert by any means, but these short, quick slants magnify the importance of getting space and how important the play in the trenches can be. PSU gashed us last year with those quick passes. Linemen need to get their hands up and the LB's have to play physical football. If they're going to get their receivers into the nitty gritty. Make them pay. I don't think either of these teams can finesse each other to death. This will be old school football. I said up above the LB's need to live up to the hype, but someone Derrick Hall needs to improve his draft stock. If he makes plays, then AU has a shot to win it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,976 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Whynahell don’t we go to a quick pass plan on offense if it’s that hard to defend? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didba 5,531 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 15 minutes ago, alexava said: Whynahell don’t we go to a quick pass plan on offense if it’s that hard to defend? Requires a pretty consistently accurate QB to throw in those tight windows 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meh130 1,059 Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 A key to taking away the slat are inside linebackers who are good in pass coverage. Also, a safety playing robber can help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weagl1 1,812 Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) You have to jam them at the LOS. CB’s can’t play 10 yards off like they have been playing and have any hope of stopping it. Get in their face! Edited September 15, 2022 by weagl1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didba 5,531 Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 If anyone says blitz they are wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuscAUse! 1,706 Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, Didba said: If anyone says blitz they are wrong Didn't we drop 7 and 8 in coverage last year and their QB had over 80% completion percentage? Not trying to be an a$$. Just curious as to why it would work this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxCohen216 514 Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Do we have the pass coverage talent to lock down the slants and still cover mid-to-deep throws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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