CodeRocket 413 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 FYI. I hope things get better. https://www.si.com/college/2022/07/14/texas-am-auburn-michigan-fsu-ole-miss-dissapointing-2022-recruiting-classes-updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old fan 47 824 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, CodeRocket said: FYI. I hope things get better. https://www.si.com/college/2022/07/14/texas-am-auburn-michigan-fsu-ole-miss-dissapointing-2022-recruiting-classes-updates Be tough for Harsin to survive another 6 win season with no recruiting going on. Seems that most of this staff, being from the Midwest just isn’t connecting in the southern states, or anywhere for that matter. Things will have to change and quickly. I am all for giving him 3 years, but no system will work without recruits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryAU 1,915 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 23 minutes ago, Old fan 47 said: Be tough for Harsin to survive another 6 win season with no recruiting going on. Seems that most of this staff, being from the Midwest just isn’t connecting in the southern states, or anywhere for that matter. Things will have to change and quickly. I am all for giving him 3 years, but no system will work without recruits. NIL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.E.D 11,071 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 59 minutes ago, Old fan 47 said: Be tough for Harsin to survive another 6 win season with no recruiting going on. Seems that most of this staff, being from the Midwest just isn’t connecting in the southern states, or anywhere for that matter. Things will have to change and quickly. I am all for giving him 3 years, but no system will work without recruits. It has nothing to do with geography. That's just another excuse. Saban was from WV/Mich St he did fine. Urban from yhe same area dominated recruiting at UF. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUwent 3,845 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, W.E.D said: It has nothing to do with geography. That's just another excuse. Saban was from WV/Mich St he did fine. Urban from yhe same area dominated recruiting at UF. You may have a point about Saban but FOR THE LOVE OF GOD THERE IS NO COMPRISON BETWEEN HARSIN AND MEYER. Edited July 14, 2022 by AUwent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.E.D 11,071 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 32 minutes ago, AUwent said: You may have a point about Saban but FOR THE LOVE OF GOD THERE IS NO COMPRISON BETWEEN HARSIN AND MEYER. Yes, one is an excellent recruiter. I agree 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUwent 3,845 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, W.E.D said: Yes, one is an excellent recruiter. I agree The modern day equivalent to Meyer when Florida hired him would be Luke Fickell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.E.D 11,071 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, AUwent said: The modern day equivalent to Meyer when Florida hired him would be Luke Fickell. But he's not from the south....can't recruit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old fan 47 824 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 2 hours ago, AUwent said: The modern day equivalent to Meyer when Florida hired him would be Luke Fickell. Then again, everyone knows Meyer is as unethical a coach that has been around in quite a long time. He had ZERO character, so in my opinion, anything he did accomplish in his coaching career is severely contaminated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old fan 47 824 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 3 hours ago, W.E.D said: It has nothing to do with geography. That's just another excuse. Saban was from WV/Mich St he did fine. Urban from yhe same area dominated recruiting at UF. Saban also spent time in SEC at LSU and won a natty before failing in the NFL. He had learned plenty about recruiting in the South by the time he failed miserably in the NFL and came to Bama. In comparison, his days at MSU are and have been moot for two decades. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old fan 47 824 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 3 hours ago, W.E.D said: Yes, one is an excellent recruiter. I agree And a pathetic excuse for a human being also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keesler 5,975 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 I think this coaching staff is still learning the territory and just how cut throat recruiting down here can get. They’ve had 18 months to get educated, they’re now building relationships and selling Auburn. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.E.D 11,071 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, Old fan 47 said: Saban also spent time in SEC at LSU and won a natty before failing in the NFL. He had learned plenty about recruiting in the South by the time he failed miserably in the NFL and came to Bama. In comparison, his days at MSU are and have been moot for two decades. I'm talking about him going to LSU and recruiting well. He wasn't "from the south" when he went to LSU and didn't have piddling recruiting classes. Anyone who uses that excuse is just typing something to make themselves feel better 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.E.D 11,071 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Old fan 47 said: And a pathetic excuse for a human being also. OK. Coaching is a pretty dirty business. Edited July 15, 2022 by W.E.D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.E.D 11,071 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, keesler said: I think this coaching staff is still learning the territory and just how cut throat recruiting down here can get. They’ve had 18 months to get educated, they’re now building relationships and selling Auburn. But they had plenty of people on staff that knows the ropes. Last year they had Bobo, Mason, Carnell, Zac, Friend all with knowledge of the area and SEC recruiting. 50% of the staff. WR coach new the area, just little SEC experience. If it was 100% Boise I think there would be a point, but there was plenty of SEC recruiting talent. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keesler 5,975 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 1 minute ago, W.E.D said: But they had plenty of people on staff that knows the ropes. Last year they had Bobo, Mason, Carnell, Zac, Friend all with knowledge of the area and SEC recruiting. 50% of the staff. WR coach new the area, just little SEC experience. If it was 100% Boise I think there would be a point, but there was plenty of SEC recruiting talent. You are correct and maybe I’m making excuses for these guys in my own way and glossing over things. I also think the other 50% of the staff had a learning curve to overcome and hopefully now they’ve had time to acclimate. Who knows where this all ends up but the last thing Auburn needs is another coaching carousel, we need stability in the worst way. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.E.D 11,071 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Just now, keesler said: You are correct and maybe I’m making excuses for these guys in my own way and glossing over things. I also think the other 50% of the staff had a learning curve to overcome and hopefully now they’ve had time to acclimate. Who knows where this all ends up but the last thing Auburn needs is another coaching carousel, we need stability in the worst way. Yeah, Bert was a complete disaster on the trail. I don't think any recruit liked him. But a good counter point is Eason. Guy never coached in college, connected with local players, and recruited really well. Recruiting is connecting and sell kids. Eason was successful with 0 connections or experience. I think Harsin is a good coach. I was concerned about recruiting abilities, but at his opening PC he talked about he was going after top talent and knew it was important. I never imagined it would be this bad. I hope we can get recruiting turned around and he can be successful 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoALtiger 4,068 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 24 minutes ago, Old fan 47 said: Saban also spent time in SEC at LSU and won a natty before failing in the NFL. He had learned plenty about recruiting in the South by the time he failed miserably in the NFL and came to Bama. In comparison, his days at MSU are and have been moot for two decades. You just proved his point. Saban had little to no recruiting experience in the South and won a Natty at LSU. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuscAUse! 1,706 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 3 hours ago, AUwent said: You may have a point about Saban but FOR THE LOVE OF GOD THERE IS NO COMPRISON BETWEEN HARSIN AND MEYER. There is also no comparison to the buy in of the PTB of uat and the gators when those two coaches were hired. I'm not defending Harsin or his recruiting, but to be fair, AU is notorious for fractured fan support. My AU grad father and my favorite Uncle both loved AU and detested Pat Dye. All he did was win games and beat uat and move the Iron bowl to home and home, BUT, he was a uga grad. I hope Harsin does great but the PTB have not bought in and that shows with lack of NIL support. Same old crap, different coach and century. I'll cheer for the team and realize that my fandom doesn't mean crap to the people who COULD make a difference. WDE. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tiger Refuge 6,826 Posted July 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) For the damn life of me, I can’t freaking understand how so many people don’t get how this past off season is absolutely killing this class. I don’t give a damn what Harsin did, but if the admin was willing to execute him publicly then they should have been willing to pull the trigger. What short memories folks have. We are reaping the rewards of a coach that was all but fired with an admin that was willing to let that happen, without actually firing him. Literally the worst case scenario. Edited July 15, 2022 by Tiger Refuge 14 7 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e808 3,222 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) 51 minutes ago, NoALtiger said: You just proved his point. Saban had little to no recruiting experience in the South and won a Natty at LSU. There is one big difference in that . Yes Saban didn’t have much experience. However, LSU is a state school and most kids want to attend their state school. So if he proved to be halfway competent kids were going there. CBH doesn’t have that luxury. He has to deal with Bama and all the other sharks hovering around. Also Louisiana talent pool of players is normally bigger than Alabamas Edited July 15, 2022 by e808 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 It sure doesn't help us when Saban even gets accolades from rival coaches. Steve Sarkisian at Big 12 Media Days: ‘Without Nick Saban, I wouldn’t be sitting here today’ - al.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Refuge 6,826 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Proud Tiger said: It sure doesn't help us when Saban even gets accolades from rival coaches. Steve Sarkisian at Big 12 Media Days: ‘Without Nick Saban, I wouldn’t be sitting here today’ - al.com Saban is getting accolades from one of his rehab coaches that landed one of the best gigs in the country. Shocker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keesler 5,975 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Proud Tiger said: It sure doesn't help us when Saban even gets accolades from rival coaches. Steve Sarkisian at Big 12 Media Days: ‘Without Nick Saban, I wouldn’t be sitting here today’ - al.com He’s had great success with his Coaches Rehab Program, that coaching tree is now a forest. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbelle 5,299 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, NoALtiger said: You just proved his point. Saban had little to no recruiting experience in the South and won a Natty at LSU. LSU practically recruits itself. Louisiana is loaded with talent and those kids are very loyal. Plus.....Emmert and the Nickster were dirty recruitng and there were those troublesome loose academic requirements. Nickster did recruiting at LSU like he has done everything else.....the cheating and unethical way. Why anyone wants to call him truly successful is mind bogging. Nothing he has done has been accomplished honestly. He had a great staff at LSU and in Nickster's world he gets the credit while they do the actual work. The boosters pay the money and buy a championship. Nickster is simply good at gaming the system that used to exist before NIL. He and Emmert were both unethical and morally compromised and it has continued all these years until Emmert drove the NCAA into the ground and ....along with the Nickster....ruined college football. That's the real story. I'm pretty sick of all the "great coach" lies surrounding that little tyrant. Edited July 15, 2022 by Tigerbelle 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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