Bruce Pearl is a reckless jerk

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1 hour ago, TexasTiger said:

It’s his “personal account” for which this is the first line in the bio: “Head Men's Basketball Coach at Auburn ”

I’ll stop following Auburn Basketball instead.

Seems extreme for a tweet that you don't like, but you're free to take your ball and go home.

...and no, I am not bothered that he said it on his personal (no quotes required, btw) account. If he gets blowback from it, he's a grown man and he can take it. 

Chuck Person's actions were infinitely more harmful to the basketball program than any tweet of Bruce's and I think his jersey belongs in a box, not in the rafters, but I'm not withholding any support of the program because AU has decided to leave it up.

 

 

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1 hour ago, AUFightingSoldiers said:

If that's your conviction then go for it. But between me and you, i dont think youll do that.

His bio line also says he's a husband and a father, so yes, it's his personal account. The account is owned by Bruce Pearl, the person. If he were to leave Auburn that account would not belong to Auburn University, Auburn Athletics, or Auburn Basketball.

You’re being highly technical to make a narrow point that denies common sense.

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2 hours ago, SLAG-91 said:

Seems extreme for a tweet that you don't like, but you're free to take your ball and go home.

...and no, I am not bothered that he said it on his personal (no quotes required, btw) account. If he gets blowback from it, he's a grown man and he can take it. 

Chuck Person's actions were infinitely more harmful to the basketball program than any tweet of Bruce's and I think his jersey belongs in a box, not in the rafters, but I'm not withholding any support of the program because AU has decided to leave it up.

 

 

This could cost recruits and support from donors if you care about that kind of thing. College sports aren’t what I came to love before his routinely polarizing tweets— Bidding wars for players, changing teams every year, politically polarizing coaches. Life is getting shorter. I wasted a ton of time this year getting excited about a poorly disciplined offensive team only to be followed by bidding wars, etc. He’s just tipping the scale. I don’t love Auburn because of any sport.

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6 hours ago, icanthearyou said:

Not to mention he is just wrong.  The cost of energy is driving most of the inflation.  Biden has almost no ability to affect the price of energy. 

Socialism is hardly the issue in this country. 

It's just dumb.

LOL ICHY hates it when the truth comes out.

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32 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

This could cost recruits if you care about that kind of thing. College sports aren’t what I came to love before he’s routinely polarizing tweets. Bidding wars for players, changing teams every year, politically polarizing coaches— life is getting shorter. I wasted a ton of time getting excited about a poorly disciplined offensive team. I don’t love Auburn because of any sport.

Recruits, especially elite ones, are concerned with finding a coach and system that will help them get to the NBA. The rest is largely static. I wouldn't lose any sleep over a recruit who decided to go elsewhere and used one of BP's tweets as the reason. 

I pretty much agree with the rest of what you said...I don't live and die with the sports like I used to, academics gets whatever $$ I can scrounge up, and the landscape around recruiting, etc. isn't one that I find appealing or interesting (I've never gotten the fascination with following recruiting intensely, but it's apparently quite the thing. I also don't get pro rasslin'.). I agree with you on the offense part, but I don't see that changing much...I think Bruce is a "give me all you've got on D, and we'll make it work somehow on O" guy.

As to his statement, would I have tweeted that out? No...but Bruce is a passionate, outspoken dude, and with that comes the risk of making someone mad. I just don't think it's a huge deal at the end of the day. If I'm wrong about that, it won't be the first time.

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1 hour ago, TexasTiger said:

You’re being highly technical to make a narrow point that denies common sense.

I'm not being technical. I'm stating a fact. Just because that fact doesn't cater to outrage. doesn't make it any less factual. It's his personal account and doesn't directly reflect the views or opinions of Auburn University. You don't like his views, don't follow him. Outside of that, get over it and move along with life. If you want to stop supporting Auburn Basketball over it, have fun with that as well. 

If it costs recruits, ok. Once Bruce stops winning because we aren't getting the other 5 stars, just the ones he keeps bringing in, he will be fired for performance and it'll all be in the rear view anyway.

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1 minute ago, AUFightingSoldiers said:

I'm not being technical. I'm stating a fact. Just because that fact doesn't cater to outrage. doesn't make it any less factual. It's his personal account and doesn't directly reflect the views or opinions of Auburn University. You don't like his views, don't follow him. Outside of that, get over it and move along with life. If you want to stop supporting Auburn Basketball over it, have fun with that as well. 

If it costs recruits, ok. Once Bruce stops winning because we aren't getting the other 5 stars, just the ones he keeps bringing in, he will be fired for performance and it'll all be in the rear view anyway.

And I’m stating a fact when I say the first line identifies himself as the Auburn Head Basketball coach and he routinely tweets from it in his official capacity. You ignore facts that don’t fit your narrative . How surprising. 🙄

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11 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

And I’m stating a fact when I say the first line identifies himself as the Auburn Head Basketball coach and he routinely tweets from it in his official capacity. You ignore facts that don’t fit your narrative . How surprising. 🙄

When have I ignored facts that don't fit my narrative? Also, please explain how "this is on his personal profile" is a narrative. Identifying your position in your profile doesn't make it an official Auburn profile in the same way your LinkedIn profile doesn't make it a profile of your employer. He has a large voice and he used it on a large profile that was built long before he came to Auburn. You're not mad he talked. You're mad at what he said. And that's OK and very much allowed. But he is still allowed to say it on his PERSONAL PROFILE that will still be his even if it doesn't say Auburn Basketball head coach. 

Edited June 8, 2022 by AUFightingSoldiers

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23 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

And I’m stating a fact when I say the first line identifies himself as the Auburn Head Basketball coach and he routinely tweets from it in his official capacity. You ignore facts that don’t fit your narrative . How surprising. 🙄

Bottom line, it’s his personal account. He’s a big boy and any repercussions like recruits switching or whatever is something hey may have to deal with. But he’s free to say what he wants. 

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Just now, wdefromtx said:

Bottom line, it’s his personal account. He’s a big boy and any repercussions like recruits switching or whatever is something hey may have to deal with. But he’s free to say what he wants. 

Didn’t say he wasn’t free. But it’s irresponsible. If a AU coach tweeted DJT was a threat to democracy, I’d agree. But I’d also think it was stupid and reckless.

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He made himself look very foolish.

Frankly, I'm shocked. I assumed he was a lot more intelligent and introspective than that.

Edited June 9, 2022 by homersapien

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12 hours ago, icanthearyou said:

The cost of energy is driving most of the inflation.  

*Sigh* 40% of the US currency currently in circulation did not exist before Biden came into office. It would be more accurate to say that inflation is driving the cost of energy.

Also, if you think oil companies didn't use the closing of the Keystone Pipeline as an excuse to raise prices, then you're more than a little bit naïve.

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15 hours ago, TexasTiger said:

Trump oversaw a ton of that spending, but no blatant partisanship needs to be displayed by any high profile Auburn official.

Just one more example of whataboutism is fine if you are one of the cool kids. 

Edited June 9, 2022 by DKW 86

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3 hours ago, Rednilla said:

*Sigh* 40% of the US currency currently in circulation did not exist before Biden came into office. It would be more accurate to say that inflation is driving the cost of energy.

Also, if you think oil companies didn't use the closing of the Keystone Pipeline as an excuse to raise prices, then you're more than a little bit naïve.

Sigh. Amazed Americans think energy costs aren’t a global phenomenon.

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2 hours ago, DKW 86 said:

Just one more example of whataboutism is fine if you are one of the cool kids. 

Just one more example that David fails to grasp the concept he frequently complains about.

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54 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

Sigh. Amazed Americans think energy costs aren’t a global phenomenon.

Okay, granted, but that doesn't negate the amount of fresh-off-the-press fiat currency that has flooded the economy. I mean, you know what the economic impact of printing new money to pay for everything is, don't you?

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@TexasTiger Note, however, that I agree with you that Bruce shouldn't tweet such polarizing political things, whether I agree with them or not.

That said, I suspect he endeared himself all the more to most of his fan base.

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1 hour ago, Rednilla said:

Okay, granted, but that doesn't negate the amount of fresh-off-the-press fiat currency that has flooded the economy. I mean, you know what the economic impact of printing new money to pay for everything is, don't you?

I think there was a huge bipartisan overreaction in Covid stimulus spending that’s coming home to roost. I got a check I didn’t need under Trump— but both parties supported it. I never got a Covid check under Biden, so it was at least more targeted, but all payments under both Presidents were ripe with abuse and put to much money in the economy without sufficiently helping those who needed it most.
 

The UK is now averaging $125 to fill a tank, however. Inflation is 73% in Turkey.

Trump bullied the Fed to keep rates close to zero to juice the economy on his watch. The Fed should have been slowly inching up rates for the last 6 years or so. Many things contribute to our current dilemma.

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1 hour ago, Rednilla said:

@TexasTiger Note, however, that I agree with you that Bruce shouldn't tweet such polarizing political things, whether I agree with them or not.

That said, I suspect he endeared himself all the more to most of his fan base.

Probably. But it’s still polarizing. Folks like Tim Cook are less likely to get involved as well as less known folks. If I was coach, I wouldn’t want to alienate Trump voters. It’s not smart for Auburn. He has “free speech” but high profile folks tied to institutions shouldn’t be free of sound judgment.

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15 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

If I was coach, I wouldn’t want to alienate Trump voters.

I think I understand what you're getting at here, but (A) most people who voted for Biden weren't voting for Biden, they were voting against Trump, and (B) I'm pretty sure that the Auburn coach alienating Trump voters would go over a lot worse for him than alienating Biden voters.

Neither of those points negate my agreement that he shouldn't be taking political stances like this, but if the shoe were on the other foot, say Trump had won in 2020 (which, as bad as things are right now, I still don't think things would be any better with Trump) and Bruce had made a post like this against him, would you have still started this thread? You don't have to answer me, because I doubt I'll believe you if you say yes, I just want to raise the point with it for you to consider for yourself.

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14 minutes ago, Rednilla said:

I think I understand what you're getting at here, but (A) most people who voted for Biden weren't voting for Biden, they were voting against Trump, and (B) I'm pretty sure that the Auburn coach alienating Trump voters would go over a lot worse for him than alienating Biden voters.

Neither of those points negate my agreement that he shouldn't be taking political stances like this, but if the shoe were on the other foot, say Trump had won in 2020 (which, as bad as things are right now, I still don't think things would be any better with Trump) and Bruce had made a post like this against him, would you have still started this thread? You don't have to answer me, because I doubt I'll believe you if you say yes, I just want to raise the point with it for you to consider for yourself.

I think it’s stupid to be as blatantly partisan as this post was so something truly analogous would be equally stupid. I know some folks got upset with coaches taking stances against racism and police misconduct in wake of George Floyd being killed— I don’t see that as analogous. There are positions that are arguably political, but not overtly partisan. I think it would be really dumb for an Auburn coach to slam Trump in a tweet like this because it would alienate donors & fans. Slamming Biden probably alienates fewer fans & donors, but may alienate more players, their family & faculty. Why go out of one’s way to alienate anyone in the Auburn family if you’re a coach or administrator? Sports used to be unifying— why destroy that?

You’ve already decided I’m lying by saying this, so believe what you will.

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17 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

I think it’s stupid to be as blatantly partisan as this post was so something truly analogous would be equally stupid. I know some folks got upset with coaches taking stances against racism and police misconduct in wake of George Floyd being killed— I don’t see that as analogous. There are positions that are arguably political, but not overtly partisan. I think it would be really dumb for an Auburn coach to slam Trump in a tweet like this because it would alienate donors & fans. Slamming Biden probably alienates fewer fans & donors, but may alienate more players, their family & faculty. Why go out of one’s way to alienate anyone in the Auburn family if you’re a coach or administrator? Sports used to be unifying— why destroy that?

I agree with everything in this paragraph.
 

19 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

You’ve already decided I’m lying by saying this, so believe what you will.

First of all, I didn't say you would lie, I said I wouldn't believe you if you said you would have made this post if the situation was reversed.

Second of all, I didn't mean that you wouldn't think it was a stupid move, I meant that you wouldn't have been the one to start this thread. You might have weighed in on it if someone else had started the thread, but you wouldn't have been the one to do it because as stupid as it would be to make the tweet, you would have agreed with it at least in spirit.

Now, tell me I'm wrong. If you can give a reasonably convincing answer, I might believe you this time.

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2 minutes ago, Rednilla said:

I agree with everything in this paragraph.
 

First of all, I didn't say you would lie, I said I wouldn't believe you if you said you would have made this post if the situation was reversed.

Second of all, I didn't mean that you wouldn't think it was a stupid move, I meant that you wouldn't have been the one to start this thread. You might have weighed in on it if someone else had started the thread, but you wouldn't have been the one to do it because as stupid as it would be to make the tweet, you would have agreed with it at least in spirit.

Now, tell me I'm wrong. If you can give a reasonably convincing answer, I might believe you this time.

I really don’t care if you believe me. Certainly not enough to take the time to persuade you. But whether I was the first to start the thread depends on a number of variables. Someone could beat me to it. If I made the same point in a thread, what real difference would that make?

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6 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

I really don’t care if you believe me. Certainly not enough to take the time to persuade you. But whether I was the first to start the thread depends on a number of variables. Someone could beat me to it. If I made the same point in a thread, what real difference would that make?

My point was not that you wouldn't start the thread as quickly as someone else, it was that you wouldn't have made the thread at all, even if no one else had started it.

The difference it would make is that you wouldn't have been all gung ho about Pearl being a reckless jerk if you agreed with him.

*NOTE* I could be wrong. This is my first foray into the political forum in many years, so I don't really know if you would have made the post or not, I just think it's worth pointing out that I don't think your attitude would be so hostile if you didn't hate what he said on a political level.

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19 hours ago, CoffeeTiger said:

 

Oh, I'm sure there were plenty of people on this forum who were seething when he joined the team for a BLM march, 

but personally I think that participating in a social justice march together with your players and sending lone tweets directly criticizing the President's policies are two totally different things. 

Why would anyone on this forum be seething? It appeared to me CBP saw the pain in the players and their respective families and responded accordingly. You saw something different?

And back the current OP, perhaps this is the case once again? You don't think some of the players and their families are affected by inflation? Maybe coach got their back?