It is just like the entire nation forgot Orwell...

[DKW 86 7,932]

I feel like this was written just to mock the narrative clowns here on this forum. 

 

[DKW 86 7,932]

I can actually hear the SFs now:

"Well that wasnt written about us, and now. That was written 70+ years ago and doesnt apply to here and now."

"Orwell was a kook..." 

Dave, you are just a clown, worrying about the parties....Just because we are pulling down statues, renaming streets and building and colleges, just like Orwell said we would. 

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4 hours ago, DKW 86 said:

...Just because we are pulling down statues, renaming streets and building and colleges, just like Orwell said we would. 

Deciding not to continue venerating someone with a public memorial is not even remotely the same as retroactively erasing them from the historical record.

Orwell would agree with that. Should see what he thought of Lenin and Stalin. 

[icanthearyou 4,468]

I believe Orwell was envisioning a single party dominating all of society.

Politics is about the distribution of power.  It is "civilized" class warfare.

There are real differences between our two parties, big differences. 

I believe the "Orwellian" warning is more about totalitarianism.

 

Historically, both parties have had their moments of absolute power (nationally, regionally).  The results are fairly obvious.

The real problem with our system is not Orwellian.  Our problem is more about the obscene amount of money in the political system.  Our problem is more about a government that can be bought.  It has created an environment which public servants, statesmen/women are replaced with corrupt, self serving opportunists.

All of that being said, recognizing the concentration of economic and political power does cause a sense of real concern.  We are creating an environment ripe for the rise of a group of hyper-"ambitious", sociopaths as well as the real socialists, the real communists, the anarchists.

The good news is, we've been here before, the beginning of the 20th century.  Capitalism and democracy survived.  The bad news is, it took a lot of human suffering for basic decency, common sense, sheer luck to overcome power and ideologues competing for power.

 

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Orwell was a democratic socialist himself. 

[DKW 86 7,932]

11 hours ago, DKW 86 said:

I can actually hear the SFs now:

"Well that wasnt written about us, and now. That was written 70+ years ago and doesnt apply to here and now."

"Orwell was a kook..." 

Dave, you are just a clown, worrying about the parties....Just because we are pulling down statues, renaming streets and building and colleges, just like Orwell said we would. 

Man did I get that right…..

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8 hours ago, DKW 86 said:

Man did I get that right…..

This is David these days. 

[aubiefifty 18,398]

i used to call him oh well now i call him oh crap................see how witty i am david? i am the bomb...............lol

[CoffeeTiger 5,925]

[icanthearyou 4,468]

On 5/19/2022 at 10:54 AM, AUDub said:

Orwell was a democratic socialist himself. 

Exactly.  No one forgot Orwell.  Too few ever understood Orwell.

[DKW 86 7,932]

2 hours ago, CoffeeTiger said:

We can always count on you coffee

[icanthearyou 4,468]

1 hour ago, DKW 86 said:

We can always count on you coffee

Please, don't do this.  The premise of the OP was bad and, insulting.

 

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4 hours ago, icanthearyou said:

Please, don't do this.  The premise of the OP was bad and, insulting.

LMAO....