Gowebb11 9,946 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mikey said: There were three new head coaches in the SEC last season. In 2020 there were 3 new head coaches. Pittman and Leach won 3 or 4 games each. Kiffin finished 5-5. This year all 3 went bowling, Pittman’s Hawgs finished ranked, and Kiffin took a 10 win team to the Sugar Bowl. Between year 1 and 2 Leach experienced mass defections of players. None of those 3 came close to recruiting at a high level early on. Each case is different. Each season in the SEC is different. So is Harsin’s and time will tell. Edited March 19, 2022 by Gowebb11 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 34,939 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Arguing logic vs emotion will never end. It is an act of futility 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWALA Tiger 3,695 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 4 hours ago, Mikey said: It's not too early to compare his results with other first year SEC coaches. I've already done that for you, see above. Too early to make judgments on them too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFE12 9,351 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Fun coach? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWALA Tiger 3,695 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 7 hours ago, Mikey said: It's not too early to compare his results with other first year SEC coaches. I've already done that for you, see above. Dang, Mikey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowebb11 9,946 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 hour ago, WFE12 said: Fun coach? Treating them like dogs again. 😅 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,781 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 11 hours ago, Gowebb11 said: In 2020 there were 3 new head coaches. Pittman and Leach won 3 or 4 games each Kiffin finished 5-5. Please. Think it through before posting. They only had 10 games and all were SEC games. Add three gimme games to their records and Kiffin finishes 8-5, the others finish with six or seven wins and all go to bowl games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 34,939 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 6 hours ago, WFE12 said: Fun coach? He was hittin it though lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowebb11 9,946 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Mikey said: Please. Think it through before posting. They only had 10 games and all were SEC games. Add three gimme games to their records and Kiffin finishes 8-5, the others finish with six or seven wins and all go to bowl games. Take away the gimme games and your guy had several 5 win seasons at AU and at least one losing season. It’s called revising history by deciding which games do and don’t count in different seasons for different teams and coaches. Edited March 20, 2022 by Gowebb11 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowebb11 9,946 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 7 hours ago, DAG said: He was hittin it though lol I swear I heard the guy next to him say he should have the media out there. Lol. I’m glad our guy dances on the field instead of gyrating with recruits on a spinning dish like LSUs guy. 😅 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowebb11 9,946 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 7 hours ago, Mikey said: the others finish with six or seven wins and all go to bowl games. Who else did this last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aucanucktiger 1,896 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Interesting how "treachery" has been submitted for "ineptness". Job reviews are necessary. Childish cluelessnes re media damage control by hired professional 3d parties during a job review is hickish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 34,939 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Gowebb11 said: I swear I heard the guy next to him say he should have the media out there. Lol. I’m glad our guy dances on the field instead of gyrating with recruits on a spinning dish like LSUs guy. 😅 That was so awkward and he didn’t even get the recruit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevon67 2,368 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 9:41 AM, bigbird said: Have you ever ran a practice? Rarely do things ever end right on time. A lot of the time periods will get reset, clocks will get paused, and drills/work will be rerun. Ending on time indicates that each position coach was organized and run effectively enough to end together. Yep....even way back in the day....85/86 when shorts and helmet practice ever seemed to end pretty consitent.....others seemed to depend on the pratice itself and if extra bleacher running or wind sprints were required to send a message Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevon67 2,368 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Also should note the above is in reference to my HS days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,979 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 2 hours ago, kevon67 said: Also should note the above is in reference to my HS days. Who knew you went to high school? Good info 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,781 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, Gowebb11 said: Who else did this last season? The new coaches at Tennessee and South Carolina. Edited March 21, 2022 by Mikey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,781 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 14 hours ago, Gowebb11 said: Take away the gimme games and your guy had several 5 win seasons at AU and at least one losing season. It’s called revising history by deciding which games do and don’t count in different seasons for different teams and coaches. I suppose you're talking about Gus with the "my guy" comment. This discussion is about new coaches in their first year. "My guy" took a 3-9 team and turned it into an SEC champion that played for the national title in his first year. Again, think before posting. The 2020 new coaches, unlike this past year's guys, didn't have the luxury of playing three or four small schools. That's why your comparison of 2020 and 2021 new coaches doesn't work. For 2021, the only new SEC coach who took over a program with a winning record in 2020 (Auburn) is also the only new coach that had a losing record in 2021. That's not impressive. Harsin still has another year to show improvement and I, as should all AU fans, hope he succeeds. Do I think he'll succeed? No, as I've seen nothing that indicates improvement in any major area. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU-24 3,130 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Mikey said: I suppose you're talking about Gus with the "my guy" comment. This discussion is about new coaches in their first year. "My guy" took a 3-9 team and turned it into an SEC champion that played for the national title in his first year. Again, think before posting. The 2020 new coaches, unlike this past year's guys, didn't have the luxury of playing three or four small schools. That's why your comparison of 2020 and 2021 new coaches doesn't work. For 2021, the only new SEC coach who took over a program with a winning record in 2020 (Auburn) is also the only new coach that had a losing record in 2021. That's not impressive. Harsin still has another year to show improvement and I, as should all AU fans, hope he succeeds. Do I think he'll succeed? No, as I've seen nothing that indicates improvement in any major area. Notice when you reply with exact facts, statistics, wins and losses, there are crickets from the Harsin Apologists? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU-24 3,130 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 18 hours ago, Gowebb11 said: Take away the gimme games and your guy had several 5 win seasons at AU and at least one losing season. It’s called revising history by deciding which games do and don’t count in different seasons for different teams and coaches. What he is talking about is because of the Covid season, it was all SEC games. Their were no Alabama State or Georgia State on the schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU-24 3,130 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 11:12 PM, Mikey said: Love is earned, not gifted. The love won't come until and unless a number of things are reversed. The losing streak is snapped, recruiting above 9th in the SEC, transfer portal additions ranked better than 29th, player retention in the portal doing better than losing 20 while gaining five, an end to fruit-basket turnover in the coaching staff.... To date, there's not a lot of reason to show any love. Again, all facts; their response, all crickets! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU-24 3,130 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 7:16 PM, bigbird said: One of your boys assistant coaches quoted here: Hoke added that he overheard Coach Ike say "it's a s***show today” On a Harsin positive: he sure is consistent with his assistant coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bigbird 60,942 Posted March 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2022 On 3/21/2022 at 2:07 AM, AU-24 said: One of your boys assistant coaches quoted here: Hoke added that he overheard Coach Ike say "it's a s***show today” On a Harsin positive: he sure is consistent with his assistant coaches. 8 years of s*** creation from "your boy" and the receiver position would be THE reason that, after 15 months, it isn't fixed. You're flimsy perceived criticism is, a coach, that has been on the staff for about a month, is critical and disappointed by the lack of talent, depth, or skill/talent? Hahaha, okay. Scathing analysis... Your pattern of behavior is very well known and you're transparent shrill is beyond tiresome and laughable. Sad. I would think you would be hoping for the best and support the team... Guess not. You are more interested in continuing the drumbeat of those that rather have had Auburn remain relegated to the consistent 4-5 loss team we were the previous 8 years of insufferable mediocrity. It's okay to admit it, we all know it already. During the now debunked and illogical rumors, you flooded the boards with your incessant rhetoric trying, as slyly as possible, to push your obvious agenda. It was hilarious to see you and the anti-CBH squad rush in to try and sink CBH. Chasing every single emotionally charged, salacious detail that was being floated had y'all drooling. Y'all's fingers were burning up your keyboards. However, as soon as it came out as false or, at best, hyperinflated and CBH had successfully stayed off those, like you, that had only the intent to undermined, tarnish, and remove, then you absolutely just disappeared along with the majority of the others pushing your narrative. I can't wait to hear what clever and completely false reason you'll give for that happening. For me, I don't know if CBH will be the long term answer. I hope he is. He has proven to me more to why he can be successful than he has proven why he can't. In fact, his ability to stand up to and remain steadfast in the storm gives me even more hope of a successful tenure. However, If or when it becomes obvious he isn't going to be able to get it done, I will support his removal...for the betterment of Auburn. 3...6...9...15 months isn't enough time to make a fair assessment of his abilities or his vision and therefore won't be acted upon. Anyone knowing half of what he stepped into understands that and is willing to give the benefit of the doubt and subsequent time necessary to prove one way or the other. Unfortunately for you and your ilk, you will have to remain in the shadows, hoping daily for something negative to come out so you can again attempt to trash our HC. So please, slink away, regroup, come back with something original and then continue to inform us all about what a bad person and coach CBH is. I love how it continues to prove out just exactly the way you've been saying... I can't wait to hear next about how CBH kicks puppies, is a practicing warlock, squeezes the toothpaste in the middle, and only chews Dentyne... 11 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,942 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 2 hours ago, AU-24 said: Notice when you reply with exact facts, statistics, wins and losses, there are crickets from the Harsin Apologists? Interesting...you sure didn't want to listen to stats and figures the previous 8 years. Why the sudden change is your metrics? I know...I know...CBH bad, Gus Good. Carry on with you unbiasedness. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevon67 2,368 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 17 hours ago, augolf1716 said: Who knew you went to high school? Good info Yes sir same as you........only difference being horse and buggy wasn't main mode of transportation😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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