Popular Post TitanTiger 21,583 Posted February 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2022 The other thread was dumped because certain people can't stay within decent boundaries. I'll post this to keep the discussion in one place, but there are some guidelines (which may be added to later). All three of the Auburn pay site admins are saying there is definitely some kind of move afoot to try and move on from Harsin. But details are sketchy. They are saying that it might be "for cause," meaning that we wouldn't owe any buyout. There are various rumors out there as to what that "cause" might be. Some are racy and salacious. We will not be discussing that here in detail. Suffice it to say that there does appear to be real smoke regarding Harsin's status as football coach at Auburn and since it is being corroborated by multiple, named, and trustworthy sources, we will allow the discussion here. But... You will not post photos, links to photos, or suggest where one might find photos of anyone (other than CBH) associated with those salacious rumors. You will not put the names, job positions, former job positions, or any other personally identifying information about anyone associated with these rumors. Any attempt interpreted by the mods/admins to skirt these guidelines by being clever will result in an immediate suspension and possible permanent banning. I know that limits things a bit and if substantiated information comes out about what's going on with some of this stuff we can adjust. But for now these are the boundaries. If people can't stay within them, this one might get canned too until there's more substantiation in the details. 12 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWALA Tiger 3,754 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Thanks, makes it alot easier to keep up with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWALA Tiger 3,754 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Titan do u have a timeline on when we know something one way or the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 21,583 Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 Just now, NWALA Tiger said: Titan do u have a timeline on when we know something one way or the other? Not yet. Jay Tate had a live stream video thing last night (since deleted because some idiots in the comments making trouble) and he suggested that if it's happening, it's going down very soon (as in the next 1-3 days). But I don't think anyone knows for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravejd 3,311 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Really hope this move to get rid of Harsin is not true. As down as I am on our direction at the moment. I really don’t see how we pull a decent option as coach right now. It’ll either be a guy who doesn’t have a job or a coordinator with no experience. I think staying course and making a move next season is the way to go. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowebb11 10,099 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) There are 2 possible endings in my opinion: 1. CBH did something really terrible that is tangible and can be proven and he will be fired. 2. Jetgate part 2 is happening and we will again look ridiculous and our program will be very damaged. Both of these are equally sad chapters for our program. The difference is in case 1, we can find a coach to come in and start fixing things. If it is #2, or perceived to be #2, good luck finding a high caliber coach to come to AU. Brent Venables recent comments about our program may be more relevant than we care to admit. It is going to be an interesting couple of days to see how it plays out. Edited February 4, 2022 by Gowebb11 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcware 1,365 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Gowebb11 said: There are 2 possible endings in my opinion: 1. CBH did something really terrible that is tangible and can be proven and he will be fired. 2. Jetgate part 2 is happening and we will again look ridiculous and our program will be further damaged. Both of these are equally sad chapters for our program. I completely agree. Whatever it is. Sad day for Auburn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CameronCrazy 1,111 Posted February 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2022 IF the speculation is true and Harsin is fired with cause, Auburn’s first call should be…. Brian Flores. 1. Dude can coach (nearly took the Dolphins to the playoffs the past 2 years). 2. First Black Head Coach in Auburn History. 3. He’s burning his bridges with the NFL as we speak, so why not Auburn swoop in and save the day. (Big PR boost IMO). 4. NFL connections 5. I believe he’ll have players and coaches lined up to play/coach for him with the stand he’s taken against the NFL. 10 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AuburnEagle79 2,227 Posted February 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2022 Thank goodness for Bruce Pearl, Suni Lee, and horses. If this is true I'm super ticked either way it turns out. Failure on CBH end will be frustrating as he was entrusted to a gray job with great pay, and if this falls on the PTB, it's even more maddening. 8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TitanTiger 21,583 Posted February 4, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2022 If this thing continues to have legs for the next couple of days, I start to wonder how Harsin stays even if the rumors aren't true. Just knowing people would go to such lengths to get rid of you wouldn't make me want to stay. Obviously if anything worthy of a "for cause" firing is true, you have to do it. Either way, it's a PR black eye for Auburn. Leave it to us to find a way to steer the news away from our #1 ranked basketball team with some sort of coaching drama in football. 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodford 3,783 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, CameronCrazy said: IF the speculation is true and Harsin is fired with cause, Auburn’s first call should be…. Brian Flores. 1. Dude can coach (nearly took the Dolphins to the playoffs the past 2 years). 2. First Black Head Coach in Auburn History. 3. He’s burning his bridges with the NFL as we speak, so why not Auburn swoop in and save the day. (Big PR boost IMO). 4. NFL connections 5. I believe he’ll have players and coaches lined up to play/coach for him with the stand he’s taken against the NFL. He’s not “taking a stand” he’s trying to get a check 4 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 21,583 Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, woodford said: He’s not “taking a stand” he’s trying to get a check He was getting a check anyway. They had to pay him the rest of his contract when they fired him. And if one thinks he's just trying to get a check from winning a lawsuit, you also have to believe that he's willing to basically torch his career as a football coach to do so. No one in the NFL will hire this guy and most colleges wouldn't touch him either. That said, no on Flores. He has zero college experience and while I don't think he deserved to get fired for performance by Miami, it's not like he lit the world on fire. 4 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcware 1,365 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, TitanTiger said: If this thing continues to have legs for the next couple of days, I start to wonder how Harsin stays even if the rumors aren't true. Just knowing people would go to such lengths to get rid of you wouldn't make me want to stay. Obviously if anything worthy of a "for cause" firing is true, you have to do it. Either way, it's a PR black eye for Auburn. Leave it to us to find a way to steer the news away from our #1 ranked basketball team with some sort of coaching drama in football. If it’s true, I agree you have to fire for cause. If it’s not true and this is just some crap made up by some guys with too much money, I will have a hard time supporting our football program for some time. I am sure I would eventually come back around but you don’t just destroy families because you think a bad hire was made. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardin Drake 2,091 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Gowebb11 said: There are 2 possible endings in my opinion: 1. CBH did something really terrible that is tangible and can be proven and he will be fired. 2. Jetgate part 2 is happening and we will again look ridiculous and our program will be very damaged. Both of these are equally sad chapters for our program. The difference is in case 1, we can find a coach to come in and start fixing things. If it is #2, or perceived to be #2, good luck finding a high caliber coach to come to AU. Brent Venables recent comments about our program may be more relevant than we care to admit. It is going to be an interesting couple of days to see how it plays out. I don't think those are equally sad outcomes. #1 is a disastrous hiring mistake that can be rectified by hiring the right guy. #2 is a black eye for the program that will repel coaches, fans, and players for a long, long time. But no matter what, if we can't get a coach that is on the same page as the boosters that create and fund NIL deals, we are destined for a long stay at the bottom of the SEC west. Edited February 4, 2022 by Cardin Drake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcware 1,365 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cardin Drake said: I don't think those are equally sad outcomes. #1 is a disastrous hiring mistake that can be rectified by hiring the right guy. #2 is a black eye for the program that will repel coaches, fans, and players for a long, long time. By no matter what, if we can't get a coach that is on the same page as the boosters that create and fund NIL deals, we are destined for a long stay at the bottom of the SEC west. Yes! I didn’t anticipate this side of NIL. If the money people don’t like a coach, they can just hold their money and not help get recruits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaotic_zx 1,070 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) This better be more than conjecture. If Harsin ends up fired with cause and there is no proof given, I will find other things to do with my fall Saturdays. Edited February 4, 2022 by Chaotic_zx 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aucom96 1,661 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) If rumors are true or even if Harsin is being runnoft for being a bad coach, it's clear our previous job search did an abysmal job of vetting or having and was very short-sighted. Edited February 4, 2022 by aucom96 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU-24 3,139 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 22 minutes ago, Gowebb11 said: There are 2 possible endings in my opinion: 1. CBH did something really terrible that is tangible and can be proven and he will be fired. 2. Jetgate part 2 is happening and we will again look ridiculous and our program will be very damaged. Both of these are equally sad chapters for our program. The difference is in case 1, we can find a coach to come in and start fixing things. If it is #2, or perceived to be #2, good luck finding a high caliber coach to come to AU. Brent Venables recent comments about our program may be more relevant than we care to admit. It is going to be an interesting couple of days to see how it plays out. Comparing this to jet gate is like comparing apples to Asian watermelons. It’s not even close to the same story. If the “purse string holders” are making up scandalous lies and salacious stories to get rid of a coach so they don’t have to pay his buyout, they would be sued in court and if found guilty, possibly jailed. Even in this crazy world, this can’t be possible! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEAugirl 9,649 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 All this Harsin drama doesn’t spell good news for ADAG as well….. You have to think if the PTB are looking to get rid of Harsin before spring ball even starts after one season, Greene is going to go down with that ship as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWALA Tiger 3,754 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 If this goes down, Muschamp is my choice. Recruiting is fixed immediately, could even be long term choice depending on how he does.. 1 2 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEAugirl 9,649 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, AU-24 said: Comparing this to jet gate is like comparing apples to Asian watermelons. It’s not even close to the same story. If the “purse string holders” are making up scandalous lies and salacious stories to get rid of a coach so they don’t have to pay his buyout, they would be sued in court and if found guilty, possibly jailed. Even in this crazy world, this can’t be possible! I think with the Jetgate reference he meant that if they are looking at getting rid of Harsin, they are probably having backchannel talks with whoever they are looking at replacing him….that would not shock me at all. This would be a huge PR hit, they know it, and if this is the plan I think they would want to have someone to swiftly move in and take over whether long term or an interim basis. I don’t think they would do this then engage in a public search. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr82be 15,065 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) I have a very hard time believing that our PTB would fabricate malicious lies to oust a coach no matter how much they may not like him and the condition of our program. If there is any truth to the rumors regarding Harsin's actions then that should take care of it the "for cause". I don't stick my head in the sand but this conspiracy stuff sounds nuts. Can we just make basketball a year round sport? Edited February 5, 2022 by gr82be What a difference a day makes. Looks like I may have given too much benefit of the doubt. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle 9,153 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, AEAugirl said: All this Harsin drama doesn’t spell good news for ADAG as well….. You have to think if the PTB are looking to get rid of Harsin before spring ball even starts after one season, Greene is going to go down with that ship as well. I believe you would be correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcware 1,365 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Come on down Kevin Steele 2 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDUBB4AU 5,379 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, NWALA Tiger said: If this goes down, Muschamp is my choice. Recruiting is fixed immediately, could even be long term choice depending on how he does.. He has flamed out as a HC. Recruiting would improve no question. I’m not sure I can get behind him as a head coach at AU. Short term maybe as you said . Florida went south and SC did as well. Not a bad thought when your options will be extremely limited 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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