Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 34 minutes ago, aucom96 said: It already is. Harsin had better up his recruiting very quickly. Some Auburn fans think they'll tolerate another 5-6 win season now, but the reality will have Harsin's seat blazing hot with a quickness. Pay attention this week. Starting with two names today. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevon67 2,368 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 5 hours ago, bigbird said: You forgot that he has the chance to be much better than Gus as well. I really want to believe that BB.............for the future of AU football sake I hope you're right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MustardSeed Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 50 minutes ago, Brad_ATX said: Pay attention this week. Starting with two names today. It does appear coach has made recruiting a bigger priority than getting an OC quickly. With early signing day it may turn out to actually be a solid plan 🤷♂️ Of course getting an OC quickly may have helped that but I’m starting to honestly believe Hill was the only guy on the list and Harsin already knew he was willing to come and our compliance dept is the one that caused the entire delay (and potentially for legitimate reasons so no fault being placed). I’ve admittedly fallen victim of the hysteria and jumping on Harsin for not getting this done quick enough BUT it appears he likely had it done day 1 but unexpected issues changed the plans and he opted to focus on recruiting. Not sure I disagree with him at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.E.D 11,070 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 7 hours ago, Didba said: The fact that you have King and Finley on there, shows how little you actually know lmao. You expecting 2nd team QB grant loy yo get the reps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Fossum 158 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 minute ago, MustardSeed said: It does appear coach has made recruiting a bigger priority than getting an OC quickly. With early signing day it may turn out to actually be a solid plan 🤷♂️ Of course getting an OC quickly may have helped that but I’m starting to honestly believe Hill was the only guy on the list and Harsin already knew he was willing to come and our compliance dept is the one that caused the entire delay (and potentially for legitimate reasons so no fault being placed). I’ve admittedly fallen victim of the hysteria and jumping on Harsin for not getting this done quick enough BUT it appears he likely had it done day 1 but unexpected issues changed the plans and he opted to focus on recruiting. Not sure I disagree with him at this point. No, not bringing in the OC at this point in the recruiting game is a planned move. It has allowed them to keep Trovon Reed on the recruiting trail (only allowed because we do not have an OC). Trovon Reed is one of the best ambassadors Auburn has and recruits love him. Much better than bringing in a guy from the PNW and telling him he’s got a week to make relationships and help close for signing day. I know it’s the craziest thing for the abundance of genius on this site but the coaching staff may actually know what they are doing. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoALtiger 3,875 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 God some of you have your head in the sand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.E.D 11,070 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Can't blame him, Harsin did nearly nothing to help the OL in year one, which everyone knew was going to be a disaster. Year 2 and it's not looking any better. Not sure why any decent transfer QB/RB will come to us when we are in back to back cycles taking 1 OL, perpetuating Gus awful OL recruiting, and seem to have little traction with any Portal OL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 minute ago, W.E.D said: Can't blame him, Harsin did nearly nothing to help the OL in year one, which everyone knew was going to be a disaster. Year 2 and it's not looking any better. Not sure why any decent transfer QB/RB will come to us when we are in back to back cycles taking 1 OL, perpetuating Gus awful OL recruiting, and seem to have little traction with any Portal OL We aren't taking 1 OL this cycle. The cycle doesn't end until February. Three OL targets we are in on don't even announce until then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchids 227 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Much worse loss than Bo. Most naturally talented player on our team. This loss is going to hurt. I guess he got tired of running behind an o line who has converted d linemen in the two deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.E.D 11,070 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Brad_ATX said: We aren't taking 1 OL this cycle. The cycle doesn't end until February. Three OL targets we are in on don't even announce until then. Yeah and Tank or anyone else isn't going to wait on that. We don't even lead for those guys, so it's just a wish. Our OL recruiting is a disaster. Spin it all you want. A coaches son was the best OL that showed us any true interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnphan 6,050 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 21 minutes ago, MustardSeed said: It does appear coach has made recruiting a bigger priority than getting an OC quickly. With early signing day it may turn out to actually be a solid plan 🤷♂️ Of course getting an OC quickly may have helped that but I’m starting to honestly believe Hill was the only guy on the list and Harsin already knew he was willing to come and our compliance dept is the one that caused the entire delay (and potentially for legitimate reasons so no fault being placed). I’ve admittedly fallen victim of the hysteria and jumping on Harsin for not getting this done quick enough BUT it appears he likely had it done day 1 but unexpected issues changed the plans and he opted to focus on recruiting. Not sure I disagree with him at this point. It was also brought up that with the outcome of the basketball situation known behind the scenes that bringing in Hill was gonna be way to big of a risk. The entire athletic department is on probation and bringing in Hill and if he were to get implicated with things at ASU that would somehow also go against Auburn. sorry for the poor wording of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarEagleHunter1221 1,690 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Can’t blame him but ouch. I’m going to be honest, I don’t really care about the Bo news but this one hurts. Expected but hurts nonetheless. I’ll root for his success wherever he goes so long as he ain’t wearing red and black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuMarine 1,372 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 If Tank goes.. good luck to him and wish him the best. I am sure he is making the best decision for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, W.E.D said: Yeah and Tank or anyone else isn't going to wait on that. We don't even lead for those guys, so it's just a wish. Our OL recruiting is a disaster. Spin it all you want. A coaches son was the best OL that showed us any true interest Talk to me about this again in February. Edited December 13, 2021 by Brad_ATX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowebb11 9,548 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 7 hours ago, AU-24 said: Maybe so but you have to admit: he’s not exactly off to one hell of a start! He’s off to a perfectly normal start for a HC replacing a guy who drove the program into a perpetual cycle of mediocrity and was being left in the dust by his biggest rivals. Terry Bowden and Gus got off to spectacular starts right before they flamed out and left our program in need of rebuild. Roster turnover is a constant in any new coaching staff, some good and some bad. Hell, Pat Dye had about 40% roster turnover his first year or two. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gman87 404 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 28 minutes ago, NoALtiger said: God some of you have your head in the sand. Lol, I was thinking somewhere else. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.E.D 11,070 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Brad_ATX said: Talk to me aboutnl this again in February. Again, we don't have time to wait another 3 months. 90% of top level kids sign this week. Waiting until Feb to show you you've got is too late. Ppl are leaving b/c it isn't being addressed now and we're really going to struggle Back to back 6-6 seasons isn't going to make recruiting any easier. I don't think our recruiting as a whole is really that bad. But our OL is horrendous and we should be ashamed of it's current status 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MustardSeed Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, W.E.D said: Ppl are leaving b/c it isn't being addressed now Tank had a visibly bad attitude in game 3 and quite often from then on. Highly doubt recruiting is his deciding factor. Also he had 4.8 ypc this year and Hunter had 6.9 ypc. O line issues may be just a tad overblown… play calling on the other hand…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.E.D 11,070 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 We're over here hyping Jalen Farmer, Anez Cooper, and DL Tae Woody as the saviors to our horrendous recruiting on the OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e808 3,028 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 I understand some are saying that Coach Dye didn’t start well but when each coach comes in situations are different. U didn’t have the same teams in the conference and additions that are about to be made. There was no NIL, early signing day or portal. Something has to pick up sooner rather than later 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, W.E.D said: Again, we don't have time to wait another 3 months. 90% of top level kids sign this week. Waiting until Feb to show you you've got is too late. Ppl are leaving b/c it isn't being addressed now and we're really going to struggle Back to back 6-6 seasons isn't going to make recruiting any easier. I don't think our recruiting as a whole is really that bad. But our OL is horrendous and we should be ashamed of it's current status Let me ask you this. Lets say we signed 5 blue chip HS O linemen right now. Does Tank or Bo stay? Answer is probably not because those guys aren't likely to play immediately. 2023 recruiting is looking very strong so far. 6-6 means nothing on that front. Texas hasn't won **** in years and is showing you can recruit just fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.E.D 11,070 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Just now, MustardSeed said: Tank had a visibly bad attitude in game 3 and quite often from then on. Highly doubt recruiting is his deciding factor. Also he had 4.8 ypc this year and Hunter had 6.9 ypc. O line issues may be just a tad overblown… play calling on the other hand…. I think the OL was an issue, but also play selection and utilization at times were really bad. 100% agree. I can't fault a player being upset, when he's literally the best player on our offense, for being upset when he's number isn't call when we need a bit play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e808 3,028 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, MustardSeed said: Tank had a visibly bad attitude in game 3 and quite often from then on. Highly doubt recruiting is his deciding factor. Also he had 4.8 ypc this year and Hunter had 6.9 ypc. O line issues may be just a tad overblown… play calling on the other hand…. That’s no a fair assessment. Tank had double the attempts running a porous oline and bad play calling. Hunter wasn’t really effective as the season progressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.E.D 11,070 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Brad_ATX said: Texas hasn't won **** in years and is showing you can recruit just fine. Texas is paying money. We aren't. We'll never recruit like UT does being as bad as we are. Also, Sark has loads of hype behind him from putting up prolific offenses at Bama and we've got a G5 coach. The situation aren't close to being the same. 2 minutes ago, Brad_ATX said: Lets say we signed 5 blue chip HS O linemen right now. Does Tank or Bo stay? That wasn't my argument. If we actually signed kids out of HS last year, took good OL tranfers vs rolled with the crap we had...then had guys lined up this year and needed just a piece vs 5 starting OL...then yeah, that changes things. Doesn't address poor play calling from Tank, but maybe we never get there 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnphan 6,050 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 minute ago, W.E.D said: I think the OL was an issue, but also play selection and utilization at times were really bad. 100% agree. I can't fault a player being upset, when he's literally the best player on our offense, for being upset when he's number isn't call when we need a bit play. I thin his frustrations were with minor injuries not allowing him to play his game and seeing the success of Hunter knowing that should be him. He has a workhorse mentality. Unfortunately for him most teams in the NFL are going to two back systems limiting reps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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