If you still don’t see it was an attempted coup

[Grumps 3,706]

5 hours ago, TexasTiger said:

Pull your head out and consume some actual facts:

 

They should have just left piles of bricks around for them to throw.

[TexasTiger 14,365]

33 minutes ago, Grumps said:

They should have just left piles of bricks around for them to throw.

Did you read this?

[DKW 86 7,914]

6 hours ago, TexasTiger said:

Pull your head out and consume some actual facts:

 

So, lets compare here.

A cartoonish attempt at something that never had a.1% chance of success. We arent even really sure what was the point.

For the record, these are the uniformed and militarily armed people...

That did this....

That lead to this:

[TexasTiger 14,365]

1 hour ago, DKW 86 said:

So, lets compare here.

A cartoonish attempt at something that never had a.1% chance of success. We arent even really sure what was the point.

For the record, these are the uniformed and militarily armed people...

That did this....

That lead to this:

You clearly aren’t following this story even when I lay it in front of you. You’re a relentless dog with a bone.

[Grumps 3,706]

9 hours ago, TexasTiger said:

Did you read this?

Only some Tweet where someone says there were going to be some guns and that it was TheDonald's fault. What did I miss?

[DKW 86 7,914]

7 hours ago, TexasTiger said:

You clearly aren’t following this story even when I lay it in front of you. You’re a relentless dog with a bone.

[aubiefifty 18,322]

JJ says they were stock piling bb guns. grins

[I_M4_AU 8,981]

10 hours ago, TexasTiger said:

You clearly aren’t following this story even when I lay it in front of you. You’re a relentless dog with a bone.

Follow what story?  This is a conspiracy theory from the left, if there were evidence of this don’t you think it would have been brought to light by now?  Or is the DNC waiting to reveal this breaking news right before the midterms?

The walls are closing in.  Any minute now we will find out the truth and Trump will go to jail.

[TexasTiger 14,365]

13 minutes ago, I_M4_AU said:

Follow what story?  This is a conspiracy theory from the left, if there were evidence of this don’t you think it would have been brought to light by now?  Or is the DNC waiting to reveal this breaking news right before the midterms?

The walls are closing in.  Any minute now we will find out the truth and Trump will go to jail.

I doubt Trump goes to jail. But this is from a federal indictment of Oath Keepers:

 

[jj3jordan 2,172]

4 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

I doubt Trump goes to jail. But this is from a federal indictment of Oath Keepers:

 

Sounds like notes Comey made while reminiscing his firing.

[Grumps 3,706]

12 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

I doubt Trump goes to jail. But this is from a federal indictment of Oath Keepers:

 

Do we know why they did not move the weapons into D.C?

[I_M4_AU 8,981]

4 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

I doubt Trump goes to jail. But this is from a federal indictment of Oath Keepers:

 

I read that, but I also read the private posting from marrowlane which leads me to believe this is just blown up hooey.  If there were QRF teams outside of DC with caches of guns and weapons why haven’t we heard about this.  I know we are hearing about it now, but a year later?

This smack of Merrick Garland and the school board domestic terrorist lie.  He is doubling down on the domestic terrorist angle.  I hate being so cynical, but it is the way we all have been treated for the last 16 years or so in this country.  I can’t believe a thing the press/social media say about all the sensational stories floating around.

[TexasTiger 14,365]

7 minutes ago, jj3jordan said:

Sounds like notes Comey made while reminiscing his firing.

You sound like a mental patient.

[TexasTiger 14,365]

3 minutes ago, Grumps said:

Do we know why they did not move the weapons into D.C?

What I’ve heard was they we’re waiting to see if they could initially breach security. If not, they didn’t want to be caught with weapons. Do we know why the National Guard was directed to stand down?

[TexasTiger 14,365]

6 minutes ago, I_M4_AU said:

I read that, but I also read the private posting from marrowlane which leads me to believe this is just blown up hooey.  If there were QRF teams outside of DC with caches of guns and weapons why haven’t we heard about this.  I know we are hearing about it now, but a year later?

This smack of Merrick Garland and the school board domestic terrorist lie.  He is doubling down on the domestic terrorist angle.  I hate being so cynical, but it is the way we all have been treated for the last 16 years or so in this country.  I can’t believe a thing the press/social media say about all the sensational stories floating around.

Why would you have already heard the evidence unfolded by a criminal investigation? They typically get folks to cooperate and share info. They get warrants for messaging apps. These investigations aren’t public.

[Grumps 3,706]

5 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

What I’ve heard was they we’re waiting to see if they could initially breach security. If not, they didn’t want to be caught with weapons. Do we know why the National Guard was directed to stand down?

 

5 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

What I’ve heard was they we’re waiting to see if they could initially breach security. If not, they didn’t want to be caught with weapons. Do we know why the National Guard was directed to stand down?

As easily as they breached the Capitol, I would have thought that the weapons would have been brought in if they were available.

I have no idea why the Capitol Police were ridiculously unprepared and even escorted some of the rioters in to the Capitol and I have no idea why the National Guard took so long to respond. I hope both of those questions are answered truthfully.

Edited January 15, 2022 by Grumps

[I_M4_AU 8,981]

3 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

Why would you have already heard the evidence unfolded by a criminal investigation? They typically get folks to cooperate and share info. They get warrants for messaging apps. These investigations aren’t public.

Because it is DC and nothing remains a secret in DC unless it is helpful to the ruling class.  An example of this is where is Epps, the guy that was stirring the pot on the 5th and 6th?  So this particular incident is helpful to the ruling class, so why is it being leaked at this time?

It just smacks of a controlled leak to garner a narrative that may or may not be true.

As to the National Guard, here is something from Newsweek:

On Thursday, December 31, says the current accepted narrative, the District of Columbia mayor rang an alarm about protests at the Joint Session of Congress. In fact, the opposite is true. What the mayor did, was ask for the minimal number of National Guardsmen and women to help out the Metropolitan Police Department, and she warned that those troops should be unarmed and not directly involve themselves in any protests.

https://www.newsweek.com/dc-mayor-muriel-bowser-thought-she-needed-just-few-hundred-national-guard-unarmed-1661320

[TexasTiger 14,365]

10 minutes ago, Grumps said:

 

As easily as they breached the Capitol, I would have thought that the weapons would have been brought in if they were available.

I have no idea why the Capitol Police were ridiculously unprepared and even escorted some of the rioters in to the Capitol and I have no idea why the National Guard took so long to respond. I hope both of those questions are answered truthfully.

Why have weapons cached around DC at all?

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a38439573/january-6-national-guard-delayed-trump-pentagon-officials/

[jj3jordan 2,172]

1 hour ago, TexasTiger said:

You sound like a mental patient.

You don't sound like a doctor.

[Grumps 3,706]

11 hours ago, TexasTiger said:

Why have weapons cached around DC at all?

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a38439573/january-6-national-guard-delayed-trump-pentagon-officials/

I don't know that they did. It seems obvious that if they have weapons then they were at least considering using them or threatening to use them.

[DKW 86 7,914]

17 hours ago, TexasTiger said:

I doubt Trump goes to jail. But this is from a federal indictment of Oath Keepers:

 

You sound like a mental patient.

An indictment means literally almost nothing. I understand your concerns, but it never happened and never had any chance to ever happen. Why did they not deploy, IF THEY ARE EVEN THERE TO DEPLOY? Idea: There was nothing illegal happening if they didnt deploy. What was the point of the Indictment again?

I got questions for you.

Where were these QRF Teams? Street Addresses please?
What were the numbers and types of weapons they had? 
Number of rounds of ammunition?
Numbers of people available?
What was the training level of each member?
Who trained them and where?
What was the TAC-OPS plan for deployment?
What was the deployment code word?
Who had authorization to deploy the QRF Teams?
Where did the Authorization come from?
How were they communicating?
Who paid for their training and travel?

You know what I really think? I think that the Dems have realized that their guys suck at governing just as bad as the Reps do. We are entering another election cycle AND they have no clue how to face down what looks from here to be certain defeat. So they are grasping at any and every straw in the arsenal. They took over total control of DC based on "We Aint Trump!" That was a seriously bad and sad mistake. Now, DTP, The SCM Crisis, Inflation, The Great Resignation, Lockdowns and Mandates are out of control and COVID Deaths continue to climb, Biden's Poll Numbers are in the shitter, Harris never had any poll numbers, their poll numbers are sssooo bad that there is actual talk in DC of running HRC yet again, etc etc etc. And these crazy ass foot notes in an indictment that may never even see the inside of a courtroom are just gnat straining BS for those obsessed with staying in power while at the same time they fail to get anything done for the people in the nation. 

You want to win? Get something tangible done. Get something done you can run on. Set policies that attract voters. Screaming "We Aint Trump!" only goes so far when you are losing even your base minority voters. Go ask Terry McAuliffe how well that strategy works...

Edited January 16, 2022 by DKW 86

[TexasTiger 14,365]

4 hours ago, DKW 86 said:

You sound like a mental patient.

An indictment means literally almost nothing. I understand your concerns, but it never happened and never had any chance to ever happen. Why did they not deploy, IF THEY ARE EVEN THERE TO DEPLOY? Idea: There was nothing illegal happening if they didnt deploy. What was the point of the Indictment again?

I got questions for you.

Where were these QRF Teams? Street Addresses please?
What were the numbers and types of weapons they had? 
Number of rounds of ammunition?
Numbers of people available?
What was the training level of each member?
Who trained them and where?
What was the TAC-OPS plan for deployment?
What was the deployment code word?
Who had authorization to deploy the QRF Teams?
Where did the Authorization come from?
How were they communicating?
Who paid for their training and travel?

You know what I really think? I think that the Dems have realized that their guys suck at governing just as bad as the Reps do. We are entering another election cycle AND they have no clue how to face down what looks from here to be certain defeat. So they are grasping at any and every straw in the arsenal. They took over total control of DC based on "We Aint Trump!" That was a seriously bad and sad mistake. Now, DTP, The SCM Crisis, Inflation, The Great Resignation, Lockdowns and Mandates are out of control and COVID Deaths continue to climb, Biden's Poll Numbers are in the shitter, Harris never had any poll numbers, their poll numbers are sssooo bad that there is actual talk in DC of running HRC yet again, etc etc etc. And these crazy ass foot notes in an indictment that may never even see the inside of a courtroom are just gnat straining BS for those obsessed with staying in power while at the same time they fail to get anything done for the people in the nation. 

You want to win? Get something tangible done. Get something done you can run on. Set policies that attract voters. Screaming "We Aint Trump!" only goes so far when you are losing even your base minority voters. Go ask Terry McAuliffe how well that strategy works...

You sound like a mental inpatient.

[DKW 86 7,914]

14 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

You sound like a mental inpatient.

[TexasTiger 14,365]

58 minutes ago, DKW 86 said:

It’s more than your drivel warrants.

[homersapien 12,265]

23 hours ago, I_M4_AU said:

I read that, but I also read the private posting from marrowlane which leads me to believe this is just blown up hooey.  If there were QRF teams outside of DC with caches of guns and weapons why haven’t we heard about this.  I know we are hearing about it now, but a year later?

I remember hearing about it.

https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2021/09/trump-extremists-guns-january-6-insurrection-congress-domestic-terrorism/   (Sept. 30, 2021)

https://abcnews.go.com/US/oath-keepers-stashed-weapons-hotel-potential-jan-violence/story?id=77048420  (Apr. 13, 2021)

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/13/prosecutors-oath-keepers-comfort-inn-481098 (Apr. 13, 2021)

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/13/politics/oath-keepers-comfort-inn/index.html  Apr. 14 2021)

 

And you don't get indictments with "blown up hooey".  But we won't hear the details until the trials.