Do you love the lie or love the truth? 10 Media Lies about Kyle Rittenhouse Debunked

[DKW 86 7,932]

WTF Happened to the media in this country?

10 heinous lies about Kyle Rittenhouse debunked

https://nypost.com/2021/11/17/10-debunked-heinous-lies-about-kyle-rittenhouse-devine/

Of all the willful lies and omissions in the media’s coverage of the Steele dossier, Brian Sicknick, the Covington kids, Jussie Smollett, the Wuhan lab, Hunter Biden’s laptop and so on, nothing beats the evil propaganda peddled about Kyle Rittenhouse.

They try to make the Rittenhouse case about race, but it’s about class, punching down at the white working-class son of a single mother because they don’t see him as fully human, and it makes them feel good. 

They lie about him because they can.

The central media narrative is that Kyle Rittenhouse is a white supremacist whose mother drove him across state lines with an AR-15 to shoot Black Lives Matter protesters. All lies.

“A white, Trump-supporting, MAGA-loving Blue Lives Matter social media partisan, 17 years old, picks up a gun, drives from one state to another with the intent to shoot people,” was typical from John Heilemann, MSNBC’s national affairs analyst.

So, let’s go through 10 lies about Rittenhouse, debunked in court:

1. HE KILLED TWO BLACK BLM protesters. All three of the men he shot in self-defense during violent riots in Kenosha on Aug. 25 last year were white.

2. He crossed state lines. He lived 20 miles from Kenosha in Antioch, Ill., with his mother and sisters. But his father, grandmother, aunt, uncle, cousins and best friend live in Kenosha. He had a job as a lifeguard in Kenosha and worked a shift on Aug. 25 before helping clean graffiti left by rioters at a local school. There, he and his friend were invited to join other adults who had been asked by the owners of a used car lot in Kenosha to guard the property after 100 cars had been torched the previous night, when police abandoned the town to rioters. Kyle took his gun to protect himself, since the rioters were violent and armed, including, for instance, Antifa medic Gaige Grosskreutz, who lunged at him with a loaded Glock pointed at his head before he was shot in the arm. 

 

So, Do you love the truth, or do you love the lie?

Kyle Rittenhouse rightfully defended the Kenosha community while legally possessing an AR-15 rifle.

Adam Rogan/The Journal Times via AP)

Footage shows Kyle Rittenhouse defending himself from angry rioters on Sheridan Road in Kenosha, Wisconsin, during the riots.

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3. Rittenhouse took an AR-15 across state lines. Esquire accused him of “terrorist tourism.” False. His rifle was kept in a safe at his best friend’s stepfather’s house in Kenosha.

4. The gun was illegal. Wrong. Under Wisconsin law, he was entitled to possess the AR-15 as a 17-year-old. The judge dismissed the gun charge, which the prosecution never should have brought.

5. Rittenhouse’s mother drove him across state lines to the riot. Wendy Rittenhouse, 46, never went to Kenosha. She slept late the morning of Aug. 25 after working a 16-hour shift at a nursing home near her home in Antioch, she told the Chicago Tribune. Kyle had already gone to his job in Kenosha when she woke up.

Assistant District Attorney Thomas Binger holds Kyle Rittenhouse’s gun as he gives the state’s closing argument during the trial.

Sean Krajacic/The Kenosha News via AP, Pool

6. He was an “active shooter” who took his gun to a riot looking for trouble. “A 17-year-old kid just running around shooting and killing protesters,” said MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough, “who drove across state lines with an AR-15 and started shooting people up.” On Friday, after evidence in court already had debunked his talking points, Scarborough called Rittenhouse a “self-appointed militia member … unloading 60 rounds.” When the defense called out the lie in closing arguments, Scarborough had the gall to tweet that he was “embarrassed” for the lawyer.

7. Rittenhouse is a “white supremacist,” as then-candidate Joe Biden labeled him in a tweet showing the teenager’s photograph. When White House press secretary Jen Psaki was asked to explain why recently, she slyly slimed Rittenhouse again, without naming him, as a “vigilante.”

Gaige Grosskreutz was not a “victim” after testifying that he provided aid as a trained medic to Black Lives Matter protesters amid the Kenosha riots.

Mark Hertzberg/Pool Photo via AP

In one story, the Intercept used the term “white supremacist” 16 times. The accusation has become holy writ, but there is zero evidence. The FBI scoured Kyle’s phone and found nothing about white supremacy or militias, the court heard. All they saw were pro-police, “Blue Lives Matter” posts from a kid who had been a police and fire department cadet, wanted to be a police officer or paramedic and once sat near the front of a Trump rally. That was enough for the media to brand him a white supremacist.

8. He “flashed white power signs” with Proud Boys. After spending three months in jail, Kyle was freed on $2 million bail two days after his 18th birthday last year, and went to a bar for a beer, with his mother and other adults, which is legal in Wisconsin. He posed for selfies with strangers at the bar, who the media say are Proud Boys, and was pictured making the OK sign with his thumb and forefinger. The false claim that this is a white supremacist sign comes from a 2017 hoax on the website 4chan, to punk liberals, who keep falling for it. Biden uses the gesture frequently. It was unwise to pose for the photo, but it does not mean Kyle is associated with white supremacists.

9. He wore surgical gloves “to cover his fingerprints.” This pearl was spread by Matthew Modine, another celebrity bigmouth. Kyle wore gloves because he was giving first aid to protesters. His face was bare, so he was hardly hiding.

The liberal media and then-Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden smeared Kyle Rittenhouse as a “white supremacist.”

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Wendy Rittenhouse, Kyle’s mother, was not present with her son when he traveled to Kenosha, Wisconsin.

Sean Krajacic/The Kenosha News via AP, Pool

10. Judge Bruce Schroeder is a “Trumpy” racist biased toward the defense. This slur is based on the fact he would not let the prosecution use the term “victim” — common practice when the jury has not ruled on a case. He told a lame joke about Asian food for lunch being held up by the supply-chain crisis, and his phone’s ring tone sounds like a 1980s ditty played at Trump rallies. Ridiculous. In fact, Schroeder is a Democrat, has run as a Democrat for the Wisconsin Senate and was first appointed by a Democratic governor. Bias was also perceived in what the Chicago Tribune said was his “highly unusual” decision to allow Kyle to draw names randomly out of a container at the end of the trial to determine which 12 of the 18 jurors would decide his fate. It’s something this judge always does, he told the court.

Honestly, even i fell for this s***.

Kyle Rittenhouse proved he used his AR-15 for self-defense against hostile Black Lives Matter protesters during riots in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

Mark Hertzberg/Pool Photo via AP

On the second day of jury deliberations Wednesday, the judge railed against media distortions, although he seemed most aggrieved about attacks on his reputation, rather than Kyle’s. He threatened to stop trials from being televised, but that’s exactly the wrong solution. 

Judge Bruce Schroeder railed against the prosecution’s snobby evidence against Kyle Rittenhouse.

Sean Krajacic/Pool via REUTERS/File Photo

Only because the public was able to hear the evidence for themselves did they become aware of the malevolent dishonesty of the media coverage, which has threatened a fair trial and ensured riots if Kyle is justly acquitted.

Edited November 19, 2021 by DKW 86

[I_M4_AU 9,022]

1 hour ago, DKW 86 said:

WTF Happened to the media in this country?

Some posters on here have been saying the media is left leaning and always has been.  It is now apparent, especially after the Russia Hoax, that the MSM now are a slave to the narrative they are trying to get across to the public.  Yes, this includes FOX and the other usual suspects.  It makes it very difficult to distinguish the truth.  I have tried to find sources that is acceptable as *approved* and not get into the weeds with fringe media, but very few *trusted* sources have balanced articles.

[CoffeeTiger 5,929]

In your eternal quest to try and prove that MSM is an evil conspiracy, keep in mind that the NYPOST (which is hardly a bastion of honest journalism itself), isn't actually referencing many MSM outlets in it's claims.  

1. No source cited. I've personally never heard this claim 

2. He did cross state lines. He lived in Illinois with his mother. The riot and shootings took place in Wisconsin. 

3. Esquire is a mens culture magazine. Not a MSM or a traiditional news outlet .

4. 50/50. Law is murky. The law was meant to allow 16/17 year old's to posses guns to legally hunt. The charge was dismissed not because the judge believed it was 100% legal to posses the weapon, but because the law he was being charged under was not thoroughly written or explained. 

5. No source cited for this claim 

6. MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough. a "entertainment" partisan commentator. not a news source. 

7. Jo Biden is not a MSM news source. 

8. No source cited. I don't know about the hand signal, but Kyle WAS hanging out with far-right militia members who include white supremacists among their number. This was not false.  

9. Matthew Modine is a celebrity, not a news source or journalist. 

10. No source cited for this 'slur

I don't see how this article is in any way an indictment on overall Media. It's just a Conservative media outlet posting a bias article to try and paint Kyle in the best possible light for it's audience. 

Edited November 19, 2021 by CoffeeTiger

[I_M4_AU 9,022]

1 hour ago, CoffeeTiger said:

In your eternal quest to try and prove that MSM is an evil conspiracy, keep in mind that the NYPOST (which is hardly a bastion of honest journalism itself), isn't actually referencing many MSM outlets in it's claims.  

1. No source cited. I've personally never heard this claim 

2. He did cross state lines. He lived in Illinois with his mother. The riot and shootings took place in Wisconsin. 

3. Esquire is a mens culture magazine. Not a MSM or a traiditional news outlet .

4. 50/50. Law is murky. The law was meant to allow 16/17 year old's to posses guns to legally hunt. The charge was dismissed not because the judge believed it was 100% legal to posses the weapon, but because the law he was being charged under was not thoroughly written or explained. 

5. No source cited for this claim 

6. MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough. a "entertainment" partisan commentator. not a news source. 

7. Jo Biden is not a MSM news source. 

8. No source cited. I don't know about the hand signal, but Kyle WAS hanging out with far-right militia members who include white supremacists among their number. This was not false.  

9. Matthew Modine is a celebrity, not a news source or journalist. 

10. No source cited for this 'slur

I don't see how this article is in any way an indictment on overall Media. It's just a Conservative media outlet posting a bias article to try and paint Kyle in the best possible light for it's audience. 

Are you kidding?  The whole article is about the perception that this kid is pure evil WITHOUT any evidence.  The articles cited have been believed by people based on assumptions because that is what these *news* outlets want you to believe.  It’s like the Russian Hoax as it sets the narrative without facts and could affect the outcome of this trial.  The only reason this kid is on trial is because the media has demanded it.

No such thing has occurred in Ga with the Aubrey trial, see the difference?

[CoffeeTiger 5,929]

1 minute ago, I_M4_AU said:

Are you kidding?  The whole article is about the perception that this kid is pure evil WITHOUT any evidence.  The articles cited have been believed by people based on assumptions because that is what these *news* outlets want you to believe.  It’s like the Russian Hoax as it sets the narrative without facts and could affect the outcome of this trial.  The only reason this kid is on trial is because the media has demanded it.

No such thing has occurred in Ga with the Aubrey trial, see the difference?

 

Then write an article citing directly the false information you allege MSM spread instead of an article naming off random "perceptions" and opinions that you just attribute to resulting from lying media. This article cites claims from Esquire, celebrities', and the opinion of Joe Biden instead of the actual MSM it's attacking.

 

The Russian deal also wasn't a hoax. The Muller report and investigations resulting from it was pretty damning in what it did find. 

[I_M4_AU 9,022]

9 minutes ago, CoffeeTiger said:

 

Then write an article citing directly the false information you allege MSM spread instead of an article naming off random "perceptions" and opinions that you just attribute to resulting from lying media. This article cites claims from Esquire, celebrities', and the opinion of Joe Biden instead of the actual MSM it's attacking.

 

The Russian deal also wasn't a hoax. The Muller report and investigations resulting from it was pretty damning in what it did find. 

@DKW 86 just did post an article citing these things, I know you read it, you commented on it.  What is your definition of MSM?  Joe Biden ran a campaign add on MSM depicting this kid as a white supremacist, according to rules in place at the time, this add should not have been allowed.

And, oh by the way, he was just found not guilty.

The information that started the Muller investigation did not have anything substantiated to get the FISA warrants, therefore, there should not have been an investigation.

[aubiefifty 18,398]

at the end of the day i think most folks want the truth. we already know from jan 6 how the media and or the perception of the media messes with joe public. the more outlandish the story the more coverage they get which means a bigger payday. me? if that kid is innocent  then leave him alone. and until we hold ALL news sources to the truth bull**** is going to walk. if a media source is telling whoppers for clicks and someone gets killed then they should be held accountable. i am pretty sure most libs want the truth. i do. and i have quite a few lib friends who feel like i do. but it is harmful. when i first heard it i wanted the kid to pay dearly. but lets be honest a minute. how many of us are demanding the truth including myself? it would sure help this country and calm things down quite a bit.

[DKW 86 7,932]

3 hours ago, CoffeeTiger said:

In your eternal quest to try and prove that MSM is an evil conspiracy, keep in mind that the NYPOST (which is hardly a bastion of honest journalism itself), isn't actually referencing many MSM outlets in it's claims.  

1. No source cited. I've personally never heard this claim 

2. He did cross state lines. He lived in Illinois with his mother. The riot and shootings took place in Wisconsin. 

3. Esquire is a mens culture magazine. Not a MSM or a traiditional news outlet .

4. 50/50. Law is murky. The law was meant to allow 16/17 year old's to posses guns to legally hunt. The charge was dismissed not because the judge believed it was 100% legal to posses the weapon, but because the law he was being charged under was not thoroughly written or explained. 

5. No source cited for this claim 

6. MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough. a "entertainment" partisan commentator. not a news source. 

7. Jo Biden is not a MSM news source. 

8. No source cited. I don't know about the hand signal, but Kyle WAS hanging out with far-right militia members who include white supremacists among their number. This was not false.  

9. Matthew Modine is a celebrity, not a news source or journalist. 

10. No source cited for this 'slur

I don't see how this article is in any way an indictment on overall Media. It's just a Conservative media outlet posting a bias article to try and paint Kyle in the best possible light for it's audience. 

Ladies and Gentlemen, When you you stop listening to facts, you get this. Every point was refuted in the article. 

[DKW 86 7,932]

 

5 hours ago, CoffeeTiger said:

 

Then write an article citing directly the false information you allege MSM spread instead of an article naming off random "perceptions" and opinions that you just attribute to resulting from lying media. This article cites claims from Esquire, celebrities', and the opinion of Joe Biden instead of the actual MSM it's attacking.

 

The Russian deal also wasn't a hoax. The Muller report and investigations resulting from it was pretty damning in what it did find. 

 

Edited November 19, 2021 by DKW 86

[DKW 86 7,932]

And...the kid was just found not guilty on all charges.

Why, because the jury of his peers looked at the evidence and saw through the BS. Wished some here could do the same. But I have long since given up on a few posters here. Truth and fact do not matter to any of these people, only the narrative matters and it is more precious than life itself.

Edited November 19, 2021 by DKW 86

[CoffeeTiger 5,929]

 

7 hours ago, DKW 86 said:

 

8. He “flashed white power signs” with Proud Boys. After spending three months in jail, Kyle was freed on $2 million bail two days after his 18th birthday last year, and went to a bar for a beer, with his mother and other adults, which is legal in Wisconsin. He posed for selfies with strangers at the bar, who the media say are Proud Boys, and was pictured making the OK sign with his thumb and forefinger. The false claim that this is a white supremacist sign comes from a 2017 hoax on the website 4chan, to punk liberals, who keep falling for it. Biden uses the gesture frequently. It was unwise to pose for the photo, but it does not mean Kyle is associated with white supremacists.

 

 Wanna see something funny? 

https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/kyle-rittenhouse-flashes-white-power-sign-with-proud-boys/

The NEW YORK POST ITSELF  Reported on Kyle hanging out with the proud boys and flashing the white power sign with them in multiple pictures. 

This opinion writer is also wrong that the sign is just a hoax with no meaning. It DID start on 4chan in 2017, but it's pretty well established now that it has been adopted and is actively used by far right hate groups. When you are hanging out with a far right militia and you are flashing the symbol it has a meaning and purpose. and that purpose is hate. Even the conservative publication this opinion writer publishes in has admitted and reported on what the hand sign means. 

This article and this writer you are posting has just as much bias and agenda as anyone. It may be "facts and truth" to you, but that doesn't mean it actually is facts and truth. 

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And No, I'm not saying that Kyle is a white supremacist. I think he's just a dumb kid who's in over his head and has been taken advantage of by the right for political purposes, be careful what you call "truth and facts" because it's very rarely as clear cut as you want to make it seem. 

Kyles not as big of a villain as some on the lefts want to make him out to be, but he's also certainly not the hero and innocent medic that the right, like this article writer, wants to paint him as either. 

 

 

Edited November 19, 2021 by CoffeeTiger

[DKW 86 7,932]

1 hour ago, CoffeeTiger said:

 

 Wanna see something funny? 

https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/kyle-rittenhouse-flashes-white-power-sign-with-proud-boys/

The NEW YORK POST ITSELF  Reported on Kyle hanging out with the proud boys and flashing the white power sign with them in multiple pictures. 

This opinion writer is also wrong that the sign is just a hoax with no meaning. It DID start on 4chan in 2017, but it's pretty well established now that it has been adopted and is actively used by far right hate groups. When you are hanging out with a far right militia and you are flashing the symbol it has a meaning and purpose. and that purpose is hate. Even the conservative publication this opinion writer publishes in has admitted and reported on what the hand sign means. 

This article and this writer you are posting has just as much bias and agenda as anyone. It may be "facts and truth" to you, but that doesn't mean it actually is facts and truth. 

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And No, I'm not saying that Kyle is a white supremacist. I think he's just a dumb kid who's in over his head and has been taken advantage of by the right for political purposes, be careful what you call "truth and facts" because it's very rarely as clear cut as you want to make it seem. 

Kyles not as big of a villain as some on the lefts want to make him out to be, but he's also certainly not the hero and innocent medic that the right, like this article writer, wants to paint him as either. 

Yea, Death to All White Supremacists....whatever man....wtf-ever

[CoffeeTiger 5,929]

20 minutes ago, DKW 86 said:

Yea, Death to All White Supremacists....whatever man....wtf-ever

 

So where these pictures of Biden taken when he was hanging out with right wing militia members? 

Or are you saying that you don’t believe that a hand Gesture can have different meanings depending on context and on who is using it?

Read the New York Post article that I referenced. It explains what it means and it’s history. 

Edited November 19, 2021 by CoffeeTiger

[TexasTiger 14,475]

[TexasTiger 14,475]

I truly wish Republicans weren’t so batsh*t crazy.

[I_M4_AU 9,022]

29 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

I truly wish Republicans weren’t so batsh*t crazy.

Your not much into sarcasm are you?

[TexasTiger 14,475]

57 minutes ago, I_M4_AU said:

Your not much into sarcasm are you?

 

[bigbird 60,963]

On 11/19/2021 at 12:02 PM, CoffeeTiger said:

The Russian deal also wasn't a hoax.

[bigbird 60,963]

On 11/19/2021 at 7:56 PM, TexasTiger said:

On #2...

If the rioters weren't there it wouldn't have happened either.

The effort to demonize from the left is just as dangerous. A very slippery slope.

Hero? Hell no!

Innocent of murder? Hell yeah!  

[bigbird 60,963]

2 hours ago, bigbird said:

@icanthearyou, 

[CoffeeTiger 5,929]

2 hours ago, bigbird said:

 

We have proof it wasn't a hoax....that proof is the Mueller Report. 

 

It clearly lays out that Russia did interfere with the election, that Trumps campaign knew about Russias involvement and welcomed it, and that Trump officials were connected in various ways to the Russia Government. The overall picture was ultimately unclear because of deleted, encrypted, and "missing" files and documents and coordinated efforts by Trumps team to obstruct the investigation and lie to investigators. 

 

 

[bigbird 60,963]

8 minutes ago, CoffeeTiger said:

 

We have proof it wasn't a hoax....that proof is the Mueller Report. 

 

It clearly lays out that Russia did interfere with the election, that Trumps campaign knew about Russias involvement and welcomed it, and that Trump officials were connected in various ways to the Russia Government. The overall picture was ultimately unclear because of deleted, encrypted, and "missing" files and documents and coordinated efforts by Trumps team to obstruct the investigation and lie to investigators. 

 

 

[CoffeeTiger 5,929]

1 minute ago, bigbird said:

 

No seriously...you can go read it yourself...it's on the internet. 

You don't have to just believe what Bill Barr and Trump told you it says. 

[I_M4_AU 9,022]

2 hours ago, bigbird said:

This never gets old in conjunction with the Russia Hoax.

[bigbird 60,963]

3 hours ago, CoffeeTiger said:

 

No seriously...you can go read it yourself...it's on the internet. 

You don't have to just believe what Bill Barr and Trump told you it says.