Why is Trump running for president again? To stay out of jail

[aubiefifty 17,487]

Column: Why is Trump running for president again? To stay out of jail

 

Doyle McManus

Sun, October 24, 2021, 6:00 AM

 

 

 

Former President Trump's company is under criminal investigation by a district attorney in a New York City suburb into whether it misled officials to cut taxes for a golf course there, according to the New York Times. (Seth Wenig / Associated Press)

Throughout his epic, scandal-ridden career, Donald Trump has compiled an astonishing record of impunity, constantly staying one jump ahead of prosecutors, plaintiffs and creditors.

He is the only president to be impeached twice, and acquitted twice by the votes of Republican senators.

He spent almost three years under investigation for what looked like collusion with Russia, only to walk away scot-free.

His former lawyer, Michael Cohen, went to prison for paying hush money to an adult entertainer known as Stormy Daniels, but “Individual-1,” the man who ordered him to write the check, was never held accountable.

 

That record of escapes would make Houdini envious.

But Trump remains under the gun. He's still in search of escape routes.

A House committee is examining his attempts to overturn last year’s presidential election, including his actions when a mob of his supporters stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6.

A prosecutor in Georgia is investigating whether he violated state law against soliciting election fraud when he demanded that officials “find 11,780 votes” — the number he needed to undo Joe Biden’s victory in that state.

And prosecutors in New York are looking into allegations that Trump, or at least the closely held family business he runs, committed tax and bank fraud.

But don’t count him out.

“His life has been a series of lessons showing that with aggressive lawyering and a lot of chutzpah, you can achieve almost total immunity,” Norman Eisen, a counsel to the House Judiciary Committee during Trump’s first impeachment, told me.

The former president’s most visible battles are against the Democratic-led House of Representatives, which asked the Justice Department last week to prosecute his former aide Stephen K. Bannon after Bannon refused to comply with a subpoena.

Trump has ordered Bannon and other former associates to stonewall on the grounds that all of his conversations with them are protected by executive privilege.

That’s the legal doctrine that allows a president to protect internal White House deliberations from congressional snooping, a claim Trump asserted broadly when he was president.

In this case, the claim sounds far-fetched: How can a former president assert executive privilege, especially over conversations with someone like Bannon, who wasn’t a government official at the time?

But constitutional lawyers say Trump has several arguments he can make. He’ll probably try them all.

First, a former president does have the right to assert executive privilege. Trump can thank former President Nixon for that, fittingly enough. In 1977, Nixon tried to block the federal government from releasing his presidential papers; he lost, but in deciding the case, the Supreme Court declared that former presidents can assert the privilege under some circumstances.

As for Bannon, the Justice Department has long argued that executive privilege can protect a president’s meetings with nonemployees as long as the discussion covers official business. In January, Bannon reportedly urged Trump to block Congress from certifying Biden’s election, then told listeners of his Jan. 5 podcast: “All hell is going to break loose tomorrow.”

“If the cases are argued on the merits, Trump and Bannon are unlikely to prevail,” Jonathan Shaub, a former Justice Department lawyer who now teaches at the University of Kentucky's law school, told me.

“Executive privilege doesn’t apply to acts taken in a personal or political capacity, and it doesn’t apply when there are concrete allegations of wrongdoing.”

But winning may not be the point.

“In the end, this is all about delay,” Shaub said.

Trump and his supporters know that if they can tie the House committee in knots until the 2022 congressional election, there’s a good chance Republicans will win control of the chamber and kill the investigation.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco) and committee Chairman Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) know that too. That’s a major reason they asked the Justice Department to prosecute Bannon for criminal contempt; it’s faster than a civil suit.

The next step is up to Atty. Gen. Merrick Garland, who has exasperated some Democrats by keeping his distance from the Trump investigations.

President Biden said last week that he thinks Garland should prosecute Bannon and others who reject congressional subpoenas. That was an improper, Trump-style act of presidential jawboning; Garland pushed back, saying he wanted to return the Justice Department to its apolitical norm.

But Biden was right on the merits; without the threat of prosecution, Bannon and others will continue to stonewall.

Meanwhile, Trump has made his defense almost entirely political, not only denouncing the House investigation but praising the mob that invaded the capital.

“The insurrection took place on Nov. 3, election day,” he said in a written statement last week. “Jan. 6 was the protest!”

He’s used the investigation to raise money for his political action committee, which has collected millions.

“The Left will never stop coming after me,” he wrote in an email to donors last week. “Please contribute ANY AMOUNT IMMEDIATELY to make a statement to the Left that you’ll ALWAYS stand with YOUR President.”

And there, no matter how the legal wrangles turn out, lies the answer to a persistent question about Trump: What makes him run?

Ego, surely, in part. A desire to take revenge on his adversaries too.

But two practical reasons, as well.

One is money. Political contributions may be the most reliable revenue stream the Trump family enterprise has at the moment.

The other, equally important, is to bolster his legal defense. As long as he’s running (or even sort of running), Trump can denounce every inquest and subpoena as just another part of a political vendetta. It’s a way to hold his troops together — and to make every prosecutor think twice.

He's notching up another presidential first: He’s running for reelection to stay out of jail.

This story originally appeared in Los Angeles Times.

[CoffeeTiger 5,382]

 

This man is literally insane. I don't think Trump really has any plans or ideas or strategies. Trump just wakes up, poops, applies his orange face makeup and then goes out and just does or says whatever feels right in the moment without any other care or thought in the world. The problem is less Trump and more the 40% of American voters who are willing to follow the man off a cliff. 

[wdefromtx 3,182]

24 minutes ago, CoffeeTiger said:

 

This man is literally insane. I don't think Trump really has any plans or ideas or strategies. Trump just wakes up, poops, applies his orange face makeup and then goes out and just does or says whatever feels right in the moment without any other care or thought in the world. The problem is less Trump and more the 40% of American voters who are willing to follow the man off a cliff. 

Did he have this posted somewhere or did you have to go to his site to find it? I have all but had him fade into a distance memory for myself....LOL

[CoffeeTiger 5,382]

5 minutes ago, wdefromtx said:

Did he have this posted somewhere or did you have to go to his site to find it? I have all but had him fade into a distance memory for myself....LOL

Yeah, it's on his webpage press releases. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/news-wy6nbwfhkp911It's what he'd in the past be posting on twitter....but...you know.

 

And don't be so coy. Republicans on here like to pretend DJT is a "thing of the past" and is "irrelevant", but we all know good and well you'll be filling his name in on the voter card for the 2024 presidential election. 

 

[wdefromtx 3,182]

28 minutes ago, CoffeeTiger said:

Yeah, it's on his webpage press releases. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/news-wy6nbwfhkp911It's what he'd in the past be posting on twitter....but...you know.

 

And don't be so coy. Republicans on here like to pretend DJT is a "thing of the past" and is "irrelevant", but we all know good and well you'll be filling his name in on the voter card for the 2024 presidential election. 

 

LOL, but you are the one visiting his website........not me!! 

 

[Grumps 3,706]

9 hours ago, aubiefifty said:

Column: Why is Trump running for president again? To stay out of jail

 

 

 

Doyle McManus

Sun, October 24, 2021, 6:00 AM

 

 

 

Former President Trump's company is under criminal investigation by a district attorney in a New York City suburb into whether it misled officials to cut taxes for a golf course there, according to the New York Times. (Seth Wenig / Associated Press)

Throughout his epic, scandal-ridden career, Donald Trump has compiled an astonishing record of impunity, constantly staying one jump ahead of prosecutors, plaintiffs and creditors.

He is the only president to be impeached twice, and acquitted twice by the votes of Republican senators.

He spent almost three years under investigation for what looked like collusion with Russia, only to walk away scot-free.

His former lawyer, Michael Cohen, went to prison for paying hush money to an adult entertainer known as Stormy Daniels, but “Individual-1,” the man who ordered him to write the check, was never held accountable.

 

That record of escapes would make Houdini envious.

But Trump remains under the gun. He's still in search of escape routes.

A House committee is examining his attempts to overturn last year’s presidential election, including his actions when a mob of his supporters stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6.

A prosecutor in Georgia is investigating whether he violated state law against soliciting election fraud when he demanded that officials “find 11,780 votes” — the number he needed to undo Joe Biden’s victory in that state.

And prosecutors in New York are looking into allegations that Trump, or at least the closely held family business he runs, committed tax and bank fraud.

But don’t count him out.

“His life has been a series of lessons showing that with aggressive lawyering and a lot of chutzpah, you can achieve almost total immunity,” Norman Eisen, a counsel to the House Judiciary Committee during Trump’s first impeachment, told me.

The former president’s most visible battles are against the Democratic-led House of Representatives, which asked the Justice Department last week to prosecute his former aide Stephen K. Bannon after Bannon refused to comply with a subpoena.

Trump has ordered Bannon and other former associates to stonewall on the grounds that all of his conversations with them are protected by executive privilege.

That’s the legal doctrine that allows a president to protect internal White House deliberations from congressional snooping, a claim Trump asserted broadly when he was president.

In this case, the claim sounds far-fetched: How can a former president assert executive privilege, especially over conversations with someone like Bannon, who wasn’t a government official at the time?

But constitutional lawyers say Trump has several arguments he can make. He’ll probably try them all.

First, a former president does have the right to assert executive privilege. Trump can thank former President Nixon for that, fittingly enough. In 1977, Nixon tried to block the federal government from releasing his presidential papers; he lost, but in deciding the case, the Supreme Court declared that former presidents can assert the privilege under some circumstances.

As for Bannon, the Justice Department has long argued that executive privilege can protect a president’s meetings with nonemployees as long as the discussion covers official business. In January, Bannon reportedly urged Trump to block Congress from certifying Biden’s election, then told listeners of his Jan. 5 podcast: “All hell is going to break loose tomorrow.”

“If the cases are argued on the merits, Trump and Bannon are unlikely to prevail,” Jonathan Shaub, a former Justice Department lawyer who now teaches at the University of Kentucky's law school, told me.

“Executive privilege doesn’t apply to acts taken in a personal or political capacity, and it doesn’t apply when there are concrete allegations of wrongdoing.”

But winning may not be the point.

“In the end, this is all about delay,” Shaub said.

Trump and his supporters know that if they can tie the House committee in knots until the 2022 congressional election, there’s a good chance Republicans will win control of the chamber and kill the investigation.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco) and committee Chairman Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) know that too. That’s a major reason they asked the Justice Department to prosecute Bannon for criminal contempt; it’s faster than a civil suit.

The next step is up to Atty. Gen. Merrick Garland, who has exasperated some Democrats by keeping his distance from the Trump investigations.

President Biden said last week that he thinks Garland should prosecute Bannon and others who reject congressional subpoenas. That was an improper, Trump-style act of presidential jawboning; Garland pushed back, saying he wanted to return the Justice Department to its apolitical norm.

But Biden was right on the merits; without the threat of prosecution, Bannon and others will continue to stonewall.

Meanwhile, Trump has made his defense almost entirely political, not only denouncing the House investigation but praising the mob that invaded the capital.

“The insurrection took place on Nov. 3, election day,” he said in a written statement last week. “Jan. 6 was the protest!”

He’s used the investigation to raise money for his political action committee, which has collected millions.

“The Left will never stop coming after me,” he wrote in an email to donors last week. “Please contribute ANY AMOUNT IMMEDIATELY to make a statement to the Left that you’ll ALWAYS stand with YOUR President.”

And there, no matter how the legal wrangles turn out, lies the answer to a persistent question about Trump: What makes him run?

Ego, surely, in part. A desire to take revenge on his adversaries too.

But two practical reasons, as well.

One is money. Political contributions may be the most reliable revenue stream the Trump family enterprise has at the moment.

The other, equally important, is to bolster his legal defense. As long as he’s running (or even sort of running), Trump can denounce every inquest and subpoena as just another part of a political vendetta. It’s a way to hold his troops together — and to make every prosecutor think twice.

He's notching up another presidential first: He’s running for reelection to stay out of jail.

This story originally appeared in Los Angeles Times.

Why not just put him in jail now?

[aubiefifty 17,487]

1 hour ago, Grumps said:

Why not just put him in jail now?

i am all for it...

[homersapien 11,683]

1 hour ago, Grumps said:

Why not just put him in jail now?

You are apparently not familiar with our legal system, particularly regarding to how the wealthy are treated within it.

[homersapien 11,683]

3 hours ago, CoffeeTiger said:

Yeah, it's on his webpage press releases. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/news-wy6nbwfhkp911It's what he'd in the past be posting on twitter....but...you know.

Are you serious?  This is legit?! 

I actually thought it was satire.  (And my expectations of Trump couldn't be any lower.)

Edited October 26, 2021 by homersapien

[CoffeeTiger 5,382]

20 minutes ago, homersapien said:

Are you serious?  This is legit?! 

I actually thought it was satire.  (And my expectations of Trump couldn't be any lower.)

Trump is a living, breathing Saturday Night Live sketch. 

 

In 100 years people reading about him in history books won’t believe he actually existed. It’s incredible. 

[I_M4_AU 8,323]

11 hours ago, CoffeeTiger said:

Trump is a living, breathing Saturday Night Live sketch. 

Interestingly enough, the actor that played Trump on SNL just shot and killed someone.  Trump said he could kill someone and get away with it; I wonder if the actor can do the same thing?  

Inquiring minds want to know.

[aubiefifty 17,487]

On 10/26/2021 at 7:43 AM, I_M4_AU said:

Interestingly enough, the actor that played Trump on SNL just shot and killed someone.  Trump said he could kill someone and get away with it; I wonder if the actor can do the same thing?  

Inquiring minds want to know.

you are so low class. you and trump jr. that man was in tears and he just uses the prop gun other people are supposed to ensure it is safe and make sure guidelines are followed. you just want to see him hurt because he spoke out against your darling trump. AND most of you claim to be christian. it is a bad look. and of all the vile stuff trump has said and done and that would be ok but lets get the guy that did comedy sketches and spoke out. wow. trump has worn you guys down and some of you act just like him. you should be praying for him instead of laughing and trying to smear the man. ok mr" make america gag again".

[aubiefifty 17,487]

On 10/26/2021 at 7:43 AM, I_M4_AU said:

Interestingly enough, the actor that played Trump on SNL just shot and killed someone.  Trump said he could kill someone and get away with it; I wonder if the actor can do the same thing?  

Inquiring minds want to know.

Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, the 24-year-old armorer who handled weapons on the set of Alec Baldwin’s “Rust,” was the subject of numerous complaints on her previous film just two months earlier after she discharged weapons without warning and infuriated star Nicolas Cage, a crew member told TheWrap.

Stu Brumbaugh, who served as key grip on the Cage Western “The Old Way” this summer, told TheWrap that Gutierrez upset both Cage and other crew members on the Montana production by failing to follow basic gun safety protocols like announcing the arrival and usage of weapons onto the set.

After firing a gun near the cast and crew for a second time in three days without warning, Brumbaugh said that Cage yelled at her, “Make an announcement, you just blew my f—ing eardrums out!” before walking off set in a rage. “I told the AD, ‘She needs to be let go,’” Brumbaugh, adding, “After the second round I was pissed off. We were moving too fast. She’s a rookie.”

It was only after alerting his superiors that the production needed a more experienced armorer who did not make these kinds of basic safety mistakes that he learned it was Gutierrez’s very first movie. While her LinkedIn profile bills her as a videographer whose experience as an armorer dates to March 2021, she is the daughter of Thell Reed, a weapons expert and fast-draw exhibition shooter who is well known in Hollywood and has previously worked with actors like Brad Pitt.

Gutierrez-Reed could not be reached by TheWrap and appears to have removed most of her social media presence. She did not immediately respond to an attempt to reach her via her LinkedIn page.

Clayton Turnage, the first assistant director listed on the IMDb page for “The Old Way,” and reps for Cage did not respond to requests for comment.

Reached Tuesday by TheWrap, a producer of “The Old Way” denied the incidents and denied that anyone ever asked for the armorer’s dismissal. “I have no such recollection of this event on our set. I asked my partners the same,” the producer said. “The details on some of these accounts specifically when it pertains to ‘The Old Way’ have been blown out of proportion.”

The producer said Gutierrez-Reed worked underneath a veteran property master, Jeffrey W. Crow, who oversaw her work. Crow did not respond to a request for comment from TheWrap, but he previously defended Gutierrez-Reed in an interview with the Los Angeles Times and said he was “surprised” that any of the accidents on “Rust” “happened on her watch.”

“I told them there was no way any person could do props and armory on a gunfighter movie safely because there were too many guns,” Crow said. “All the armorers I know and tried to bring in were working already, so I left it up to producers. I had never heard about Hannah until I was informed she would be my armorer, but my skepticism of her initially, about her lack of experience, was allayed after I’d worked with her.”

 

Nicolas Cage (Getty Images)

 

Despite those remarks, others on the set disputed this view.

The incidents detailed by Brumbaugh and one other person on the set “put the cast and crew in several unnecessary and dangerous situations,” according to the latter person. Brumbaugh confirmed that the following incidents occurred, including:

• Gutierrez-Reed walked onto the set with live rounds of blanks and no public announcement to the cast and crew, breaking established safety protocols.

• She tucked pistols under her armpits and carried rifles in each hand that were ready to be used in a scene. Firearms were aimed at people. She turned around and the pistols that were tucked under her armpits were pointing back at people.

• She twice fired guns on the set without giving any warning to the cast and crew, as required. The first time she was demonstrating the gun volume to see if the loud sound would startle the horses when without warning the gun went off.

Gutierrez-Reed previously downplayed her inexperience as an armorer. Speaking on a recent “Voices of the West” podcast just a month before the “Rust” tragedy, Gutierrez-Reed said that while she had picked up some details of the job from her father, she described working on “The Old Way” as a “really badass way” to start her career, but said she learned on her own the process of loading blanks into firearms, calling it “the scariest thing.”

“It was also my first time being head armorer as well. You know, I was really nervous about it at first, and I almost didn’t take the job because I wasn’t sure if I was ready, but, doing it, like, it went really smoothly,” she said in September. “The best part about my job is just showing people who are normally kind of freaked out by guns how safe they can be and how they’re not really problematic unless put in the wrong hands.”

Gutierrez-Reed also said on the podcast that prior to becoming an armorer she considered being an actor or a cinematographer but found she more of a knack for weapons work. She had also been a presence on social media under the username on Instagram @no_son_of_a_gun, but within recent days of the accident, virtually all of her social media accounts have been disabled.

Like many in the Hollywood production community, Brumbaugh was distraught that someone so inexperienced was in charge on firearms the “Rust” set, and said it was a function of independent budgets being too tight to maintain safety. “The tragedy is it boils down to the producers,” he said. “It’s been happening more and more. As producers refuse to bring more experienced people because their rates are higher, they demand we take our time and (producers) don’t want to pay it. So they hire a newbie who is energetic and wants the job and will do it with less people.”

He went on: “The problem is she didn’t have help. I would have had minimum two more people. She was doing everything by herself in that movie and on the other movie. If there was one more person in the other movie the tragedy wouldn’t have happened. A second person would have inspected to make sure the barrels were clear.”

Given the tight budget and the demands of the job, Brumbaugh understood how deadly mistakes could happen. “You have an AD screaming at you,” he said. “You’re 24 and energetic and don’t want to be yelled at. So you rush in and start arming people.”

[I_M4_AU 8,323]

6 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

you are so low class. you and trump jr. that man was in tears and he just uses the prop gun other people are supposed to ensure it is safe and make sure guidelines are followed. you just want to see him hurt because he spoke out against your darling trump. AND most of you claim to be christian. it is a bad look. and of all the vile stuff trump has said and done and that would be ok but lets get the guy that did comedy sketches and spoke out. wow. trump has worn you guys down and some of you act just like him. you should be praying for him instead of laughing and trying to smear the man. ok mr" make america gag again".

Forgive me fifty for I have sinned.  Are you serious????  All the posts you make about Trump the last four years and I’m suppose to feel bad about the guy who made a living out of playing Trump on SNL and who was an avid NRA hater?

It’s pure irony, the man knows next to nothing about guns and gun safety and he shoots and kills a person.  I do pray for the victims and their family and Baldwin, as he is torn up inside, but he is ultimately responsible for the death of one person and wounding another.  Will he ever take responsibility for his actions?  Somehow I doubt it and that puts him in the same category as Trump.

Even if you are handed a gun that someone say its *cold*, all you have to do is check it yourself before you discharge the weapon.  How long does that take?  If you trust a 24 year old as the armorer when you are the executive producer of a film (which Baldwin was) you are a special kind of stupid. 

Alec Baldwin may be held criminally or civilly liable for the accidental shooting on the "Rust" set in New Mexico last week, but as a producer rather than an actor, according to experts. Baldwin inadvertently killed a cinematographer and injured a director when he pulled the trigger on a prop gun loaded with live rounds.

https://www.newsweek.com/alec-baldwin-could-held-liable-rust-shooting-producer-not-actor-experts-1642730

I feel sorry for the dude as he could have prevented the whole thing by taking a little time to inspect the gun.  It was a tragic accident where safety protocols were not followed.  He will be wiser for going through this, but in the meantime he will have to go through a lot of pain I would not wish on anyone.

Get this through your head; Trump is yesterday’s news and the only people keeping him alive are the MSM, because it’s all about the ratings.  In 3 and 1/2 years (after the Biden debacle) America will not be so anxious to elect a 78 year old to the highest office in the land. 

[homersapien 11,683]

It sounds like there's lots of blame to go around, but no one should ever pick up a gun and simulate firing it without clearing it first.   That includes the supposition it is loaded with blanks.  But that's just me.

I feel sorry for everyone involved.  This was a needless tragedy.

 

Edited October 28, 2021 by homersapien

[homersapien 11,683]

On 10/27/2021 at 12:08 PM, I_M4_AU said:

Forgive me fifty for I have sinned.  Are you serious????  All the posts you make about Trump the last four years and I’m suppose to feel bad about the guy who made a living out of playing Trump on SNL and who was an avid NRA hater?

It’s pure irony, the man knows next to nothing about guns and gun safety and he shoots and kills a person.  I do pray for the victims and their family and Baldwin, as he is torn up inside, but he is ultimately responsible for the death of one person and wounding another.  Will he ever take responsibility for his actions?  Somehow I doubt it and that puts him in the same category as Trump.

Even if you are handed a gun that someone say its *cold*, all you have to do is check it yourself before you discharge the weapon.  How long does that take?  If you trust a 24 year old as the armorer when you are the executive producer of a film (which Baldwin was) you are a special kind of stupid. 

Alec Baldwin may be held criminally or civilly liable for the accidental shooting on the "Rust" set in New Mexico last week, but as a producer rather than an actor, according to experts. Baldwin inadvertently killed a cinematographer and injured a director when he pulled the trigger on a prop gun loaded with live rounds.

https://www.newsweek.com/alec-baldwin-could-held-liable-rust-shooting-producer-not-actor-experts-1642730

I feel sorry for the dude as he could have prevented the whole thing by taking a little time to inspect the gun.  It was a tragic accident where safety protocols were not followed.  He will be wiser for going through this, but in the meantime he will have to go through a lot of pain I would not wish on anyone.

Get this through your head; Trump is yesterday’s news and the only people keeping him alive are the MSM, because it’s all about the ratings.  In 3 and 1/2 years (after the Biden debacle) America will not be so anxious to elect a 78 year old to the highest office in the land. 

Blah blah blah.  Fifty's right.  Go back and read your post.

[I_M4_AU 8,323]

16 minutes ago, homersapien said:

Blah blah blah.  Fifty's right.  Go back and read your post.

Well, I did say I sinned according to Fifty.  The next sentence should tell you what I think about his hypocrisy and I’m not really seriously asking for his forgiveness.

19 minutes ago, homersapien said:

It sounds like there's lots of blame to go around, but no one should ever pick up a gun and simulate firing it without clearing it first.   That includes the supposition it is loaded with blanks.  But that's just me.

I feel sorry for everyone involved.  This was a needless tragedy.

 

 

On 10/27/2021 at 12:08 PM, I_M4_AU said:

Even if you are handed a gun that someone say its *cold*, all you have to do is check it yourself before you discharge the weapon.  How long does that take?

It seems we are in agreement here.

Edited October 28, 2021 by I_M4_AU

[SaltyTiger 8,119]

4 hours ago, homersapien said:

It sounds like there's lots of blame to go around, but no one should ever pick up a gun and simulate firing it without clearing it first.   That includes the supposition it is loaded with blanks.  But that's just me.

I feel sorry for everyone involved.  This was a needless tragedy.

 

Unbelievable something like that could happen on a set. Surely there is a process for requirements and checks in the industry. I would think you are correct in “lots of blame”.