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Thousands of Alabama teachers worried about reopening schools

By Trisha Powell Crain | tcrain@al.com

7-9 minutes

As Alabama pushes to reopen schools in a couple of weeks, and coronavirus cases continue to rise, some teachers are asking whether it’s really safe to go back into the classroom right now.

“I’m really scared,” said high school chemistry teacher Jacqueline Edwards in Jefferson County. “Teachers are the guinea pigs. We are the experiment.”

While some teachers welcome reopening, posting online that they are excited to return for fall, others are worried for their health. And thousands have joined a Facebook group opposed to reopening.

“Virtual learning is the only low-risk form of learning right now,” said Tracey Davis, a speech language pathologist in Montgomery County Schools.

Davis last month started a private Facebook group, called Alabama Teachers Against COVID-19 as a way to find out whether teachers felt safe going back inside classrooms. The group now has nearly 5,400 members, many of whom post regularly about their concerns. Those posting in the group agree with Davis' take on virtual learning.

"We are all child advocates," Davis said, "and it is our responsibility to promote virtual learning because it can save lives."

Davis, a 23-year veteran of public schools, said this is the time of year most teachers would be purchasing school supplies and decorating classrooms, and not doing those things is very difficult. "Don't make me cry," she said as we discussed that topic.

The vast majority of Alabama districts are reopening classrooms. Nearly all offer students two choices: traditional in-person school or virtual learning. Some schools are opening for in-person learning as early as the first week of August.

Others are opting for virtual only. One at a time, 13 districts from Selma to Mobile have announced plans to start online and reassess the situation in 9 weeks or so.

Related: All Huntsville-area schools to begin classes remotely

Davis said members of the group, who she now calls her "5,000 besties," are reaching out to school, district, and state education officials as well as their local lawmakers to express their concerns.

The Facebook group is not connected with either the Alabama Education Association or the Alabama Federation of Teachers, though there are members of each organization that are a part of the group.

Lauren Smith, also a member of the Facebook group, teaches special education in Birmingham City schools and said she, too, feels like teachers' safety isn't being considered. "Teachers have played many roles," she said, "but I don't feel we need to be the petri dish, the experiment to see how this goes."

"There are so many questions and so many what-ifs," Smith said, "that it's just going to be overkill trying to plan for all of the what-ifs when we could safely stay home and teach."

Alabama's coronavirus cases have continued to rise, and while Gov. Kay Ivey ordered masks be worn statewide, there's no way to predict what the community spread might be when schools open in a couple of weeks.

"The CDC recommended the seven-day positivity rate be at 5%," Smith said. Alabama Department of Public Health data shows over the past 14 days, Alabama's positivity rate to be 14%.

Decisions to reopen schools safely should be made based on data, Smith said, not solely on the need for children to be at school so parents can go back to work.

Related: Reopening Alabama’s K-12 schools: Here are the plans

"I completely understand that they want the economy to go back and all of that," Smith added. "However, if we open schools, they're just a breeding ground of germs. The virus is going to spread more rapidly, and the economy is going to go down longer and longer."

To be clear, Edwards said, teachers would rather be going back to classrooms.

"We don't want to just sit at home," Edwards said. "We chose this profession because we want to educate students. We want to be there with them. We miss them."

But Edwards said 11 her family members have already had COVID-19, and five---three cousins, an aunt and an uncle—died. Her Jefferson County school is scheduled to open Aug. 25.

Both Edwards and Davis said virtual teaching is more difficult for educators. “It’s 10 times harder than face-to-face,” Davis said, “but partly because we’re not used to doing it.”

Edwards, who is starting her 16th year as a teacher, said teachers have spent time over the summer learning how to teach school virtually to get ready for the new school year.

If a virus enters the school, she said, it won't only be teachers who are impacted. "It's going to put parents in harm's way. It's going to put the community in harm's way."

Another problem, Edwards said, is that many schools aren’t set up to meet safety guidelines promoted by experts. “Our hallways are so small,” she said, “and our windows don’t even open.” As a result, social distancing and getting fresh air circulating will be a problem.

Who teaches kids when teachers get sick?

One of the topics that really isn't getting talked about, both teachers said, is what happens to classrooms full of students when teachers get sick.

"We already have a substitute teacher shortage," Edwards said. "Who is going to teach the students when teachers are out?"

Teachers have sick days they can use, and some can tap into community sick leave banks, but they are also eligible for federal sick leave if they contract the coronavirus at work.

Federal guidelines also allow employees to take extended leave under certain circumstances, such as if they have a medical condition that makes them at higher risk for severe complications.

Some teachers will likely be able to choose to teach remotely. State Superintendent Eric Mackey said 30% of students in Alabama have chosen virtual school so far.

Students choosing virtual school will need teachers, and that means some teachers uncomfortable returning to in-person teaching could be able to teach remotely.

Alabama also has an overall teacher shortage, and one in four Alabama teachers is 50 years old or older, putting them at higher risk for complications of coronavirus.

While some worried the fear of returning to classrooms might bring on a rash of teacher retirements, officials with the Retirement Systems of Alabama told AL.com there have not seen an unusual number of teacher retirements compared with this time last year.

The Alabama State Department of Education issued guidance for school officials to consider when crafting school opening plans but stopped short of mandating actions like requiring masks for students. Those decisions are left up to local school officials.

Some school districts are tying their school opening plans to the Alabama Department of Public Health’s county dashboard, shown below, which currently shows a majority of counties are at a very high level of risk of spread, while most of the rest are considered high risk of spread.

Edwards said she is putting her faith in science and in God as she continues to prepare for the new school year.

"I don't want it to affect my family anymore," Edwards said referring to losing five family members to the virus and the lasting medical struggles recovering family members are dealing with. "I'm very nervous. I'm very anxious."

“This virus is not a hoax. It is real.”

 

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Imma just leave this here....

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10 hours ago, aubiefifty said:

Thousands of Alabama teachers worried about reopening schools

By Trisha Powell Crain | tcrain@al.com

7-9 minutes

As Alabama pushes to reopen schools in a couple of weeks, and coronavirus cases continue to rise, some teachers are asking whether it’s really safe to go back into the classroom right now.

“I’m really scared,” said high school chemistry teacher Jacqueline Edwards in Jefferson County. “Teachers are the guinea pigs. We are the experiment.”

While some teachers welcome reopening, posting online that they are excited to return for fall, others are worried for their health. And thousands have joined a Facebook group opposed to reopening.

“Virtual learning is the only low-risk form of learning right now,” said Tracey Davis, a speech language pathologist in Montgomery County Schools.

Davis last month started a private Facebook group, called Alabama Teachers Against COVID-19 as a way to find out whether teachers felt safe going back inside classrooms. The group now has nearly 5,400 members, many of whom post regularly about their concerns. Those posting in the group agree with Davis' take on virtual learning.

"We are all child advocates," Davis said, "and it is our responsibility to promote virtual learning because it can save lives."

Davis, a 23-year veteran of public schools, said this is the time of year most teachers would be purchasing school supplies and decorating classrooms, and not doing those things is very difficult. "Don't make me cry," she said as we discussed that topic.

The vast majority of Alabama districts are reopening classrooms. Nearly all offer students two choices: traditional in-person school or virtual learning. Some schools are opening for in-person learning as early as the first week of August.

Others are opting for virtual only. One at a time, 13 districts from Selma to Mobile have announced plans to start online and reassess the situation in 9 weeks or so.

Related: All Huntsville-area schools to begin classes remotely

Davis said members of the group, who she now calls her "5,000 besties," are reaching out to school, district, and state education officials as well as their local lawmakers to express their concerns.

The Facebook group is not connected with either the Alabama Education Association or the Alabama Federation of Teachers, though there are members of each organization that are a part of the group.

Lauren Smith, also a member of the Facebook group, teaches special education in Birmingham City schools and said she, too, feels like teachers' safety isn't being considered. "Teachers have played many roles," she said, "but I don't feel we need to be the petri dish, the experiment to see how this goes."

"There are so many questions and so many what-ifs," Smith said, "that it's just going to be overkill trying to plan for all of the what-ifs when we could safely stay home and teach."

Alabama's coronavirus cases have continued to rise, and while Gov. Kay Ivey ordered masks be worn statewide, there's no way to predict what the community spread might be when schools open in a couple of weeks.

"The CDC recommended the seven-day positivity rate be at 5%," Smith said. Alabama Department of Public Health data shows over the past 14 days, Alabama's positivity rate to be 14%.

Decisions to reopen schools safely should be made based on data, Smith said, not solely on the need for children to be at school so parents can go back to work.

Related: Reopening Alabama’s K-12 schools: Here are the plans

"I completely understand that they want the economy to go back and all of that," Smith added. "However, if we open schools, they're just a breeding ground of germs. The virus is going to spread more rapidly, and the economy is going to go down longer and longer."

To be clear, Edwards said, teachers would rather be going back to classrooms.

"We don't want to just sit at home," Edwards said. "We chose this profession because we want to educate students. We want to be there with them. We miss them."

But Edwards said 11 her family members have already had COVID-19, and five---three cousins, an aunt and an uncle—died. Her Jefferson County school is scheduled to open Aug. 25.

Both Edwards and Davis said virtual teaching is more difficult for educators. “It’s 10 times harder than face-to-face,” Davis said, “but partly because we’re not used to doing it.”

Edwards, who is starting her 16th year as a teacher, said teachers have spent time over the summer learning how to teach school virtually to get ready for the new school year.

If a virus enters the school, she said, it won't only be teachers who are impacted. "It's going to put parents in harm's way. It's going to put the community in harm's way."

Another problem, Edwards said, is that many schools aren’t set up to meet safety guidelines promoted by experts. “Our hallways are so small,” she said, “and our windows don’t even open.” As a result, social distancing and getting fresh air circulating will be a problem.

Who teaches kids when teachers get sick?

One of the topics that really isn't getting talked about, both teachers said, is what happens to classrooms full of students when teachers get sick.

"We already have a substitute teacher shortage," Edwards said. "Who is going to teach the students when teachers are out?"

Teachers have sick days they can use, and some can tap into community sick leave banks, but they are also eligible for federal sick leave if they contract the coronavirus at work.

Federal guidelines also allow employees to take extended leave under certain circumstances, such as if they have a medical condition that makes them at higher risk for severe complications.

Some teachers will likely be able to choose to teach remotely. State Superintendent Eric Mackey said 30% of students in Alabama have chosen virtual school so far.

Students choosing virtual school will need teachers, and that means some teachers uncomfortable returning to in-person teaching could be able to teach remotely.

Alabama also has an overall teacher shortage, and one in four Alabama teachers is 50 years old or older, putting them at higher risk for complications of coronavirus.

While some worried the fear of returning to classrooms might bring on a rash of teacher retirements, officials with the Retirement Systems of Alabama told AL.com there have not seen an unusual number of teacher retirements compared with this time last year.

The Alabama State Department of Education issued guidance for school officials to consider when crafting school opening plans but stopped short of mandating actions like requiring masks for students. Those decisions are left up to local school officials.

Some school districts are tying their school opening plans to the Alabama Department of Public Health’s county dashboard, shown below, which currently shows a majority of counties are at a very high level of risk of spread, while most of the rest are considered high risk of spread.

Edwards said she is putting her faith in science and in God as she continues to prepare for the new school year.

"I don't want it to affect my family anymore," Edwards said referring to losing five family members to the virus and the lasting medical struggles recovering family members are dealing with. "I'm very nervous. I'm very anxious."

“This virus is not a hoax. It is real.”

 

I am proud of the way we are doing it here. If any staff member hits one of six criteria then they aren’t required to be in the classroom. We aren’t making any high risk staff members come into the school building. Here 78% of our students have elected to return to school while 22% have selected online. 

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19 hours ago, aubiefifty said:

Thousands of Alabama teachers worried about reopening schools

By Trisha Powell Crain | tcrain@al.com

7-9 minutes

As Alabama pushes to reopen schools in a couple of weeks, and coronavirus cases continue to rise, some teachers are asking whether it’s really safe to go back into the classroom right now.

“I’m really scared,” said high school chemistry teacher Jacqueline Edwards in Jefferson County. “Teachers are the guinea pigs. We are the experiment.”

While some teachers welcome reopening, posting online that they are excited to return for fall, others are worried for their health. And thousands have joined a Facebook group opposed to reopening.

“Virtual learning is the only low-risk form of learning right now,” said Tracey Davis, a speech language pathologist in Montgomery County Schools.

Davis last month started a private Facebook group, called Alabama Teachers Against COVID-19 as a way to find out whether teachers felt safe going back inside classrooms. The group now has nearly 5,400 members, many of whom post regularly about their concerns. Those posting in the group agree with Davis' take on virtual learning.

"We are all child advocates," Davis said, "and it is our responsibility to promote virtual learning because it can save lives."

Davis, a 23-year veteran of public schools, said this is the time of year most teachers would be purchasing school supplies and decorating classrooms, and not doing those things is very difficult. "Don't make me cry," she said as we discussed that topic.

The vast majority of Alabama districts are reopening classrooms. Nearly all offer students two choices: traditional in-person school or virtual learning. Some schools are opening for in-person learning as early as the first week of August.

Others are opting for virtual only. One at a time, 13 districts from Selma to Mobile have announced plans to start online and reassess the situation in 9 weeks or so.

Related: All Huntsville-area schools to begin classes remotely

Davis said members of the group, who she now calls her "5,000 besties," are reaching out to school, district, and state education officials as well as their local lawmakers to express their concerns.

The Facebook group is not connected with either the Alabama Education Association or the Alabama Federation of Teachers, though there are members of each organization that are a part of the group.

Lauren Smith, also a member of the Facebook group, teaches special education in Birmingham City schools and said she, too, feels like teachers' safety isn't being considered. "Teachers have played many roles," she said, "but I don't feel we need to be the petri dish, the experiment to see how this goes."

"There are so many questions and so many what-ifs," Smith said, "that it's just going to be overkill trying to plan for all of the what-ifs when we could safely stay home and teach."

Alabama's coronavirus cases have continued to rise, and while Gov. Kay Ivey ordered masks be worn statewide, there's no way to predict what the community spread might be when schools open in a couple of weeks.

"The CDC recommended the seven-day positivity rate be at 5%," Smith said. Alabama Department of Public Health data shows over the past 14 days, Alabama's positivity rate to be 14%.

Decisions to reopen schools safely should be made based on data, Smith said, not solely on the need for children to be at school so parents can go back to work.

Related: Reopening Alabama’s K-12 schools: Here are the plans

"I completely understand that they want the economy to go back and all of that," Smith added. "However, if we open schools, they're just a breeding ground of germs. The virus is going to spread more rapidly, and the economy is going to go down longer and longer."

To be clear, Edwards said, teachers would rather be going back to classrooms.

"We don't want to just sit at home," Edwards said. "We chose this profession because we want to educate students. We want to be there with them. We miss them."

But Edwards said 11 her family members have already had COVID-19, and five---three cousins, an aunt and an uncle—died. Her Jefferson County school is scheduled to open Aug. 25.

Both Edwards and Davis said virtual teaching is more difficult for educators. “It’s 10 times harder than face-to-face,” Davis said, “but partly because we’re not used to doing it.”

Edwards, who is starting her 16th year as a teacher, said teachers have spent time over the summer learning how to teach school virtually to get ready for the new school year.

If a virus enters the school, she said, it won't only be teachers who are impacted. "It's going to put parents in harm's way. It's going to put the community in harm's way."

Another problem, Edwards said, is that many schools aren’t set up to meet safety guidelines promoted by experts. “Our hallways are so small,” she said, “and our windows don’t even open.” As a result, social distancing and getting fresh air circulating will be a problem.

Who teaches kids when teachers get sick?

One of the topics that really isn't getting talked about, both teachers said, is what happens to classrooms full of students when teachers get sick.

"We already have a substitute teacher shortage," Edwards said. "Who is going to teach the students when teachers are out?"

Teachers have sick days they can use, and some can tap into community sick leave banks, but they are also eligible for federal sick leave if they contract the coronavirus at work.

Federal guidelines also allow employees to take extended leave under certain circumstances, such as if they have a medical condition that makes them at higher risk for severe complications.

Some teachers will likely be able to choose to teach remotely. State Superintendent Eric Mackey said 30% of students in Alabama have chosen virtual school so far.

Students choosing virtual school will need teachers, and that means some teachers uncomfortable returning to in-person teaching could be able to teach remotely.

Alabama also has an overall teacher shortage, and one in four Alabama teachers is 50 years old or older, putting them at higher risk for complications of coronavirus.

While some worried the fear of returning to classrooms might bring on a rash of teacher retirements, officials with the Retirement Systems of Alabama told AL.com there have not seen an unusual number of teacher retirements compared with this time last year.

The Alabama State Department of Education issued guidance for school officials to consider when crafting school opening plans but stopped short of mandating actions like requiring masks for students. Those decisions are left up to local school officials.

Some school districts are tying their school opening plans to the Alabama Department of Public Health’s county dashboard, shown below, which currently shows a majority of counties are at a very high level of risk of spread, while most of the rest are considered high risk of spread.

Edwards said she is putting her faith in science and in God as she continues to prepare for the new school year.

"I don't want it to affect my family anymore," Edwards said referring to losing five family members to the virus and the lasting medical struggles recovering family members are dealing with. "I'm very nervous. I'm very anxious."

“This virus is not a hoax. It is real.”

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/23/health/cdc-coronavirus-school-guidelines-new/index.html
 

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18 hours ago, wdefromtx said:

Imma just leave this here....

Yep, all options are variations of a turd sandwich.

We're starting...I am SO VERY excited to greet ~180 students via Zoom/Teams/whatever platform we're using. 😐 

Just glad I don't teach kindergarten...

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On 7/23/2020 at 12:27 PM, aubiefifty said:

Thousands of Alabama teachers worried about reopening schools

By Trisha Powell Crain | tcrain@al.com

7-9 minutes

As Alabama pushes to reopen schools in a couple of weeks, and coronavirus cases continue to rise, some teachers are asking whether it’s really safe to go back into the classroom right now.

“I’m really scared,” said high school chemistry teacher Jacqueline Edwards in Jefferson County. “Teachers are the guinea pigs. We are the experiment.”

While some teachers welcome reopening, posting online that they are excited to return for fall, others are worried for their health. And thousands have joined a Facebook group opposed to reopening.

“Virtual learning is the only low-risk form of learning right now,” said Tracey Davis, a speech language pathologist in Montgomery County Schools.

Davis last month started a private Facebook group, called Alabama Teachers Against COVID-19 as a way to find out whether teachers felt safe going back inside classrooms. The group now has nearly 5,400 members, many of whom post regularly about their concerns. Those posting in the group agree with Davis' take on virtual learning.

"We are all child advocates," Davis said, "and it is our responsibility to promote virtual learning because it can save lives."

Davis, a 23-year veteran of public schools, said this is the time of year most teachers would be purchasing school supplies and decorating classrooms, and not doing those things is very difficult. "Don't make me cry," she said as we discussed that topic.

The vast majority of Alabama districts are reopening classrooms. Nearly all offer students two choices: traditional in-person school or virtual learning. Some schools are opening for in-person learning as early as the first week of August.

Others are opting for virtual only. One at a time, 13 districts from Selma to Mobile have announced plans to start online and reassess the situation in 9 weeks or so.

Related: All Huntsville-area schools to begin classes remotely

Davis said members of the group, who she now calls her "5,000 besties," are reaching out to school, district, and state education officials as well as their local lawmakers to express their concerns.

The Facebook group is not connected with either the Alabama Education Association or the Alabama Federation of Teachers, though there are members of each organization that are a part of the group.

Lauren Smith, also a member of the Facebook group, teaches special education in Birmingham City schools and said she, too, feels like teachers' safety isn't being considered. "Teachers have played many roles," she said, "but I don't feel we need to be the petri dish, the experiment to see how this goes."

"There are so many questions and so many what-ifs," Smith said, "that it's just going to be overkill trying to plan for all of the what-ifs when we could safely stay home and teach."

Alabama's coronavirus cases have continued to rise, and while Gov. Kay Ivey ordered masks be worn statewide, there's no way to predict what the community spread might be when schools open in a couple of weeks.

"The CDC recommended the seven-day positivity rate be at 5%," Smith said. Alabama Department of Public Health data shows over the past 14 days, Alabama's positivity rate to be 14%.

Decisions to reopen schools safely should be made based on data, Smith said, not solely on the need for children to be at school so parents can go back to work.

Related: Reopening Alabama’s K-12 schools: Here are the plans

"I completely understand that they want the economy to go back and all of that," Smith added. "However, if we open schools, they're just a breeding ground of germs. The virus is going to spread more rapidly, and the economy is going to go down longer and longer."

To be clear, Edwards said, teachers would rather be going back to classrooms.

"We don't want to just sit at home," Edwards said. "We chose this profession because we want to educate students. We want to be there with them. We miss them."

But Edwards said 11 her family members have already had COVID-19, and five---three cousins, an aunt and an uncle—died. Her Jefferson County school is scheduled to open Aug. 25.

Both Edwards and Davis said virtual teaching is more difficult for educators. “It’s 10 times harder than face-to-face,” Davis said, “but partly because we’re not used to doing it.”

Edwards, who is starting her 16th year as a teacher, said teachers have spent time over the summer learning how to teach school virtually to get ready for the new school year.

If a virus enters the school, she said, it won't only be teachers who are impacted. "It's going to put parents in harm's way. It's going to put the community in harm's way."

Another problem, Edwards said, is that many schools aren’t set up to meet safety guidelines promoted by experts. “Our hallways are so small,” she said, “and our windows don’t even open.” As a result, social distancing and getting fresh air circulating will be a problem.

Who teaches kids when teachers get sick?

One of the topics that really isn't getting talked about, both teachers said, is what happens to classrooms full of students when teachers get sick.

"We already have a substitute teacher shortage," Edwards said. "Who is going to teach the students when teachers are out?"

Teachers have sick days they can use, and some can tap into community sick leave banks, but they are also eligible for federal sick leave if they contract the coronavirus at work.

Federal guidelines also allow employees to take extended leave under certain circumstances, such as if they have a medical condition that makes them at higher risk for severe complications.

Some teachers will likely be able to choose to teach remotely. State Superintendent Eric Mackey said 30% of students in Alabama have chosen virtual school so far.

Students choosing virtual school will need teachers, and that means some teachers uncomfortable returning to in-person teaching could be able to teach remotely.

Alabama also has an overall teacher shortage, and one in four Alabama teachers is 50 years old or older, putting them at higher risk for complications of coronavirus.

While some worried the fear of returning to classrooms might bring on a rash of teacher retirements, officials with the Retirement Systems of Alabama told AL.com there have not seen an unusual number of teacher retirements compared with this time last year.

The Alabama State Department of Education issued guidance for school officials to consider when crafting school opening plans but stopped short of mandating actions like requiring masks for students. Those decisions are left up to local school officials.

Some school districts are tying their school opening plans to the Alabama Department of Public Health’s county dashboard, shown below, which currently shows a majority of counties are at a very high level of risk of spread, while most of the rest are considered high risk of spread.

Edwards said she is putting her faith in science and in God as she continues to prepare for the new school year.

"I don't want it to affect my family anymore," Edwards said referring to losing five family members to the virus and the lasting medical struggles recovering family members are dealing with. "I'm very nervous. I'm very anxious."

“This virus is not a hoax. It is real.”

 

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/07/13/watch-msnbcs-melvin-stunned-top-pediatricians-unanimously-saying-they-would-send-kids-back-to-school/

 

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i do not read bretbart sorry.

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20 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

i do not read bretbart sorry.

You don't have to read it.  The clip is from MSNBC when several pediatricians told the interviewer they would absolutely send their children back to school now. I didn't think you had an open mind.  Thanks for confirming.  

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1 hour ago, SocialCircle said:

You don't have to read it.  The clip is from MSNBC when several pediatricians told the interviewer they would absolutely send their children back to school now. I didn't think you had an open mind.  Thanks for confirming.  

you keep hammering at me like i am going to change my mind. we are not ready yet period. i do not care if john wayne said it was safe.i would rather see a child set back a school year than dead. pretty simple. the covid also causes damages to the body and they have not figured that all out. you want to help put kids at risk that is on you gomer.

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1 minute ago, aubiefifty said:

you keep hammering at me like i am going to change my mind. we are not ready yet period. i do not care if john wayne said it was safe.i would rather see a child set back a school year than dead. pretty simple. the covid also causes damages to the body and they have not figured that all out. you want to help put kids at risk that is on you gomer.

My intuition says this is could end up being a bad idea, and I've had several convos with @SocialCircle on that topic. It still matters that the CDC has changed their stance though. It's enough to warrant looking for more information on the topic when I have time imo. Here's the press release the CDC put out:

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/p0723-new-resources-tools-schools.html

Whether or not this will be enough to keep the virus in a contained state is way beyond what I can figure out on my own, though. Hopefully better sources will weigh in soon.

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57 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

you keep hammering at me like i am going to change my mind. we are not ready yet period. i do not care if john wayne said it was safe.i would rather see a child set back a school year than dead. pretty simple. the covid also causes damages to the body and they have not figured that all out. you want to help put kids at risk that is on you gomer.

So you are a science denier. You know better than the CDC, these pediatricians interviewed by MSNBC, the American Pediatrics Academy, and the Georgia Dept. of Public Health. 
 

The fact is this age group is more likely to die because they ride in a car or with the flu than with Covid-19. 

I have an open mind and study many different sources and look at many different perspectives including the fact that over 95% of our local taxpayers want schooling to start in August. Over 3/4 of them have elected the option of sending their students back to the school for their education. 
 

Closed minded people like you are emotionally and politically driven. We are making data driven decisions weighing in many factors. 
 

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7 hours ago, aubiefifty said:

you keep hammering at me like i am going to change my mind. we are not ready yet period. i do not care if john wayne said it was safe.i would rather see a child set back a school year than dead. pretty simple. the covid also causes damages to the body and they have not figured that all out. you want to help put kids at risk that is on you gomer.

According to people whose profession it is to know such things, children are at greater risk of long-term harm from NOT returning to school.

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14 hours ago, SocialCircle said:

So you are a science denier. You know better than the CDC, these pediatricians interviewed by MSNBC, the American Pediatrics Academy, and the Georgia Dept. of Public Health. 
 

The fact is this age group is more likely to die because they ride in a car or with the flu than with Covid-19. 

I have an open mind and study many different sources and look at many different perspectives including the fact that over 95% of our local taxpayers want schooling to start in August. Over 3/4 of them have elected the option of sending their students back to the school for their education. 
 

Closed minded people like you are emotionally and politically driven. We are making data driven decisions weighing in many factors. 
 

you are so full of s*** dude. you cherry pick which scientists you want to believe that fit your political beliefs. crack on me all you want to but i am trying to help save a childs life. so take that and shove it where the sun does not shine. people have already admitted states opened up too soon and stuff is spiking again. also this is just the first wave. but you go ahead and try to brainwash people into going back to school too early. you will be responsible for their deaths just like they are. hell you are one of the people i bet that is ok with kids in cages. you never say a word about them so you must be ok with it right? you accused me of being for something i was not because we had not discussed it yet remember? and the other difference is you are a trump guy who is all in on the kids being in cages. and yes i know obama did it and i am on record on this very site saying he sucked for doing it. i will remember your name when kids die from going to school. life is precious.......your opinion is not. you want everyone on here to see how wonderful you are with promoting trumps talking points. all i see is a dummy standing on the bodies of children.

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thank you to whomever edited my post. i admit i get mad over children............

[SocialCircle 570]

1 hour ago, aubiefifty said:

you are so full of s*** dude. you cherry pick which scientists you want to believe that fit your political beliefs. crack on me all you want to but i am trying to help save a childs life. so take that and shove it where the sun does not shine. people have already admitted states opened up too soon and stuff is spiking again. also this is just the first wave. but you go ahead and try to brainwash people into going back to school too early. you will be responsible for their deaths just like they are. hell you are one of the people i bet that is ok with kids in cages. you never say a word about them so you must be ok with it right? you accused me of being for something i was not because we had not discussed it yet remember? and the other difference is you are a trump guy who is all in on the kids being in cages. and yes i know obama did it and i am on record on this very site saying he sucked for doing it. i will remember your name when kids die from going to school. life is precious.......your opinion is not. you want everyone on here to see how wonderful you are with promoting trumps talking points. all i see is a dummy standing on the bodies of children.

I don’t think we opened up too soon. I don’t care what Trump says on this or any other politician for that matter.You are driven by hate to the point of being irrational and that is a dangerous thing. 

[Mikey 16,781]

1 hour ago, aubiefifty said:

..... crack on me all you want to but i am trying to help save a childs life.

B.S.  If you cared about children's lives, you would be agitating to get them back in school full term.

[aubiefifty 18,231]

22 minutes ago, Mikey said:

B.S.  If you cared about children's lives, you would be agitating to get them back in school full term.

you still drinking the trump koolaid i see. kids cannot learn anything if they are dead. but then you were fine with the kids in cages.

[aubiefifty 18,231]

39 minutes ago, SocialCircle said:

I don’t think we opened up too soon. I don’t care what Trump says on this or any other politician for that matter.You are driven by hate to the point of being irrational and that is a dangerous thing. 

ok gomer. i hope you have no kids or grandkids going to school too early. and i honestly hope nothing bad happens to them but if it does it is on you buddy...........

[SocialCircle 570]

1 hour ago, aubiefifty said:

ok gomer. i hope you have no kids or grandkids going to school too early. and i honestly hope nothing bad happens to them but if it does it is on you buddy...........

My youngest daughter has been at school all this week already with her fellow band members at band camp. She will be back in high school in the building starting August 10th unless our guidance from the CDC and the Georgia Dept. of Health and others changes. Here we are listening to and following the advice of the medical experts and not allowing politicians to influence our decisions at all. Shame on you for doing so and for allowing your hatred drive you as opposed to what is better overall for students.

[Mikey 16,781]

22 hours ago, aubiefifty said:

you still drinking the trump koolaid i see. kids cannot learn anything if they are dead. but then you were fine with the kids in cages.

This has nothing to do with President Trump or any other politician or politics. The professional pediatric community and CDC are unanimous in stating that children will be better off attending full time school. Your political hatred is blinding you to the facts. If the welfare of children is important to you, then you'll want them back in school full time when the fall term starts.

[aubiefifty 18,231]

1 hour ago, Mikey said:

This has nothing to do with President Trump or any other politician or politics. The professional pediatric community and CDC are unanimous in stating that children will be better off attending full time school. Your political hatred is blinding you to the facts. If the welfare of children is important to you, then you'll want them back in school full time when the fall term starts.

this has everything to do with trump. he pushed to open early so he could win reelection and most people realize this.