homersapien 12,353 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 4 hours ago, TitanTiger said: It's the same continuation of stuff that also happened under Bush - a fundamental lack of understanding of how to deal with the Middle East and miscalculating how things will go if you choose one side or the other. Stupidly thinking we know who the "good guys" are. Bush and Cheney did it believing we'd be greeted at liberators and heroes. Obama did it in Egypt and Libya. Seems to be an overall American foreign policy failure than anything else. Amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 4,174 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 1 minute ago, homersapien said: Amen! Indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveEmElle 1,559 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Birther rumor was not started by Clinton. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/23/donald-trump/hillary-clinton-obama-birther-fact-check/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,137 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 12 hours ago, GiveEmElle said: Birther rumor was not started by Clinton. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/23/donald-trump/hillary-clinton-obama-birther-fact-check/ The story appears to have started with supporters of Clinton, an important distinction. Easy enough to " officially " distance them from the Hillary campaign proper... because, you, the optics and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveEmElle 1,559 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 6 minutes ago, AURaptor said: The story appears to have started with supporters of Clinton, an important distinction. Easy enough to " officially " distance them from the Hillary campaign proper... because, you, the optics and such. Nothing to me if it makes you feel better to blame Clinton. Does NOT change the fact that Trump jumped on it and ran, making a fool of himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 21,583 Posted July 22, 2016 Author Share Posted July 22, 2016 12 minutes ago, AURaptor said: The story appears to have started with supporters of Clinton, an important distinction. Easy enough to " officially " distance them from the Hillary campaign proper... because, you, the optics and such. Same sort of "official" distance Trump has from the white supremacist wackos campaigning for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,137 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Just now, TitanTiger said: Same sort of "official" distance Trump has from the white supremacist wackos campaigning for him? Probably. But while the MSM gives the white wackos all manner of credence, not so w/ the Hillary started the Birther movement. The Left are all about equality, except when it comes to coverage of their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aujeff11 6,243 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, AURaptor said: The story appears to have started with supporters of Clinton, an important distinction. Easy enough to " officially " distance them from the Hillary campaign proper... because, you, the optics and such. A Hillary supporting volunteer in Texas circulating garbage doesn't indicate that Hillary was "all in" with the birther claims. Typical of Drumph spreading lies though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 12,353 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 3 hours ago, AURaptor said: The story appears to have started with supporters of Clinton, an important distinction. Easy enough to " officially " distance them from the Hillary campaign proper... because, you, the optics and such. That's some good weaseling there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 12,353 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 2 hours ago, AURaptor said: Probably. But while the MSM gives the white wackos all manner of credence, not so w/ the Hillary started the Birther movement. The Left are all about equality, except when it comes to coverage of their own. Weaseling lie from a weaseling liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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