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Gene Chizik's family still lives in Auburn. He may not have been the best HC but look what he did as DC at NC.

CWM ad TRob are both gone to SC - announced tomorrow.

Time to move on.,.

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JDUBB4AU Founding Father

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Either way Muschamp wants to be a HC and Trob a DC. They got what they wanted at a place where expectations aren't as high. Good luck to both, but it's time for an AU gut check. Why are the rumors flying about jacobs? What's going on ? Can it be fixed ??

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Well I see that T-Rob is going to join Muschamp at SC.

Indeed. And just for the record, that was already posted. So no one owes you an apology just because you posted it, too.

I like you, as a poster, a4e, most of the time. I don't question your Auburn loyalty at all. I just wish you'd read through threads before posting.

War Eagle!

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1) Chizik given new contract after 1 (championship admittedly)season when there is no sign he is a candidate for any possible job. Runs program in the ground with 3-9 season, off the field issues galore and finlly whole staff is fired with huge buyouts.

2) Malzahn is hired, has a great 1st season. Old contract torn up, given deal with large buyout when there is no sign he is a candidate for any possible job. Looks to be on the hot seat next season.

3) Galloway is hired amid numerous reports of being very difficult to work with. Rumors after 1 season he may be fired. Is finally fired after supposedly having AU employees spying on him to find reasons to fire him with cause, eliminating any buyout money. Not surprisingly he hires a lawyer who holds a bizarre press conference with Galloway to discuss how AU has done his client wrong. Looks to be headed to court unless AU decides to make bad press go away with settlement.

4) Matthew Davis, an athletics department employee is fired after reportedly informing AU officials of ticket discrepancies occuring in Tigers Unlimited. University claims he was involved in some sort of athlete injury information leading to his dismissal. Lawyer goes to the press. Looks headed to court barring a settlement.

Tuberville and Muschamp left Auburn by most accounts being unhappy with the way administration handled aspects of the program. Bruce was a home-run hire without a doubt. I would only ask Dr Gouge and BOT members if they really think this is the best person to keep leading a multi-million dollar business in the future.

To be fair he also hired Clint Myers, Bruce Pearl, Terri Williams-Flournoy and Nick Clinard, all pretty good coaches. Some hits, some misses...

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So, the Muschamp hire now appears to be a gamble that Auburn lost big on. Don't get me wrong, I was 100% on the Will Muschamp bandwagon last year. Like most everyone else, I was drunk on the thought that with a little help on defense, Auburn was a serious contender to win a national championship. Gus had himself, JJ and CWM convinced that Jeremy Johnson & Co. had the pieces together to bring home the hardware if Muschamp could help the defense only marginally. We swung for the fences, and now it appears that we've missed.

It also appears that Auburn took on all the risk. Clearly, Will Muschamp didn't need to build a great defense, or spend 3 years removed from Florida to get another good HC offer. I think Will did a good job this past year. I still love the guy, and I can't blame him for leaving. However, Auburn is now going to enter its third season in a row with a different D.C. What to show for it? The Birmingham Bowl, uncertainty and instability. That's not to say its all lost. I do believe that Will was at least beginning to change the defensive culture at Auburn. He recruited some fine young players. There are positives to build on. Yet, I would trade all of those for stability at this point. I hope that this next hire/promotion is made with stability in mind.

Its hard for me to blame Gus or Jay Jacobs for hiring Will Muschamp, given what they believed at this time last year. After all, if Jeremy Johnson would have panned out, and Duke Williams would have stepped into his anticipated role, Auburn very well could be having its own "pizza party" today. But, that's not how it turned out. Now, I can't help but feel foolish for believing hiring Muschamp was the best hire Auburn could make. We all convinced ourselves that Will would never leave after just one year, and that no program worth its salt would risk hiring him so soon. Now we know.

I just hope that the next hire Auburn makes is made with the long-run in mind. I hope its a decision that is made wisely and quickly. If not, the positives that Muschamp did leave behind might not count for much. We can't afford to remain stagnate on the defensive side of the ball, and we certainly can't afford to hang our hat on another quick fix.

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Y'all are insane for thinking chizik would come back to work under the guy who was his OC and his replacement when he got fired.

Paul rhoads, Randy Shannon, and honestly lance Thompson would be nice, with Thompson being the most likely, as well as what could most likely keep a similar scheme and our recruiting class together.

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I hope Galloway and his lawyer drags Jacobs through the dirt with the media watching.

And in turn makes the university look awful. Great idea.

Yeah, no.

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My top 4 look like Dave Aranda, Jeremy Pruitt, Randy Shannon, or Paul Rhodes. Wouldn't mind Manny Diaz if we could pull him from Moo St. though.

Manny Diaz?

BYU 550 Yards Rushing vs. Texas?

The one Mack Brown fired in desperation to try and cling to his Texas head coaching job?

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At this point I am kinda hoping for an in-house promotion to keep continuity and recruits. Who says it had to be T-Rob to work. Let's do it Gus and get back to work for next year. WDE!

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So, the Muschamp hire now appears to be a gamble that Auburn lost big on. Don't get me wrong, I was 100% on the Will Muschamp bandwagon last year. Like most everyone else, I was drunk on the thought that with a little help on defense, Auburn was a serious contender to win a national championship. Gus had himself, JJ and CWM convinced that Jeremy Johnson & Co. had the pieces together to bring home the hardware if Muschamp could help the defense only marginally. We swung for the fences, and now it appears that we've missed.

It also appears that Auburn took on all the risk. Clearly, Will Muschamp didn't need to build a great defense, or spend 3 years removed from Florida to get another good HC offer. I think Will did a good job this past year. I still love the guy, and I can't blame him for leaving. However, Auburn is now going to enter its third season in a row with a different D.C. What to show for it? The Birmingham Bowl, uncertainty and instability. That's not to say its all lost. I do believe that Will was at least beginning to change the defensive culture at Auburn. He recruited some fine young players. There are positives to build on. Yet, I would trade all of those for stability at this point. I hope that this next hire/promotion is made with stability in mind.

Its hard for me to blame Gus or Jay Jacobs for hiring Will Muschamp, given what they believed at this time last year. After all, if Jeremy Johnson would have panned out, and Duke Williams would have stepped into his anticipated role, Auburn very well could be having its own "pizza party" today. But, that's not how it turned out. Now, I can't help but feel foolish for believing hiring Muschamp was the best hire Auburn could make. We all convinced ourselves that Will would never leave after just one year, and that no program worth its salt would risk hiring him so soon. Now we know.

I just hope that the next hire Auburn makes is made with the long-run in mind. I hope its a decision that is made wisely and quickly. If not, the positives that Muschamp did leave behind might not count for much. We can't afford to remain stagnate on the defensive side of the ball, and we certainly can't afford to hang our hat on another quick fix.

Agree with almost all of this, Barnacle. My problem is that the one hire who would've been both stable in the short term and a long-term prospect was TRob.

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Y'all are insane for thinking chizik would come back to work under the guy who was his OC and his replacement when he got fired.

Paul rhoads, Randy Shannon, and honestly lance Thompson would be nice, with Thompson being the most likely, as well as what could most likely keep a similar scheme and our recruiting class together.

I don't think it would happen (Chizik) but I'd like for it to. I think Chizik is as good if not better than WM. Chizik has been apart of a few undefeated seasons isn't it 3, 2 at Auburn?
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Y'all are insane for thinking chizik would come back to work under the guy who was his OC and his replacement when he got fired.

Paul rhoads, Randy Shannon, and honestly lance Thompson would be nice, with Thompson being the most likely, as well as what could most likely keep a similar scheme and our recruiting class together.

I don't think it would happen (Chizik) but I'd like for it to. I think Chizik is as good if not better than WM. Chizik has been apart of a few undefeated seasons isn't it 3, 2 at Auburn?

He's great, and I think he would do a good job as DC, but that is a ton of pride to swallow to come back to AU that way. I just don't see it happening.

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Agree with almost all of this, Barnacle. My problem is that the one hire who would've been both stable in the short term and a long-term prospect was TRob.

Which makes question the Muschamp hire even more. I get it, hindsight is 20/20, but the situation that is quickly unfolding today is one that was very likely to occur. I really think everyone (Gus, JJ, alumni, fans, analysts, etc.) were so drunk on the illusion of Jeremy Johnson that we just turned a blind eye to the very real possibility that Will would be one and done, and that he'd likely take his guys with him.

I never thought Will was that bad of a HC. Look at Florida against Alabama on Saturday. That looked exactly like a Will Muschamp coached team. I think McElwain is going to do very well there, especially once he gets his QB back, but as we all know, if you don't have a QB you don't have a prayer. Florida probably made the right move, but Will was never going to stick around long.

Like I said, I was one of the people who thought hiring Will was the right move. There were many around here who questioned it for these exact reasons, and I feel foolish for not agreeing.

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I hope Galloway and his lawyer drags Jacobs through the dirt with the media watching.

OK a4e your just being a pot stirrer. Cut it out or it may be time for a vacation

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