Will Muschamp (Combined Thread)

[tiger88 934]

Sure is a lot of noise this afternoon about Muschamp not returning to Auburn regardless. He'll be at UGA as DC or the S. Carolina head coach according to these reports on Twitter and Kevin Scarbinsky (who also says bammer is a possible destination).

I still don't think I believe he'll leave for another coordinator position, but if he does he's dead to me. It's a slap in the face to Auburn fans to leave for a lateral position at one of our two biggest rivals.

I have no way of knowing this, but if he leaves for a coordinator position or less I have to believe he is not a fan of the way Gus is handling business.

He is all business and Gus is more like Mrs. Doubtfire on the sidelines with his demeanor.

Why does it have to be Gus? And Will's pedigree as a HC or Coordinator is no better than Gus in any fashion. Maybe Gus wanted a commitment from Will not to seek these opportunities so soon hence why he may not come back regardless. It's amazing how quick the torch and pitchfork crowd want to mob Gus and show all this loyalty to a coach who has left AU before for a lateral move. Will did not break the mold on defense, there are several good DC's out there who drive to AU once he leaves....

Are you Christy Malzahn for crying out loud? Lol. I'm just pointing out there personalities on the sidelines are polar opposites and Ixm guessing it translates into other areas of how they conduct their business.

People with angry personalities often don't care for those who stay calm all the time.

If Boom goes, I hope Gus gets a great replacement and we barely miss a beat. I am for AU andvI want Gus yo succeed. I just see some significant warning signs, and don't be shocked if some potential coordinators do to. Of course, jj will probably just pay them 3 times what they're worth to get them to come.

No one in a position to know says that there is any personal animosity between Gus and Will at all.

Yeah, I stated that myself, but thanks. If the dude leaves for a coordinator job, there is something very rotten in Denmark, IMO. Animosity, irreconcilible differences, whatever.

[autigeremt 7,240]

The smoke is building that Boom is gone. Things change fast in 18 hours. If it happens I don't think it's fair to condemn Gus until he's proven he couldn't handle the situation. But I know he'll be crucified regardless.

Have to say it but he is in charge of program so it's all going to fall on him.

I know.......but having a relationship with he and his family outside of sports makes it tough to swallow. He's a determined, loyal and compassionate man.

I'm sure he's a great guy. But he's also paid to do a job, with that pay being more than 99% of the working people in the country. It's a tough profession without a lot of long-term stability. Gus knows that which is why he's willingly left Arkansas, Auburn, and Arkansas State in the past after relatively short stays at each. If he doesn't right the ship any criticism he receives is what he's earned and deserves.

I wish that worked for politicians...lol I get it.

[cooltigger21 0]

You can work with people you aren't buddies with. Saban and Kiffin are polar opposites. They don't really like each other but they both are professional enough to not let that interfere with doing the job.

[autigeremt 7,240]

If he goes to SC good on him. If he takes a DC job yes, we are in trouble.

You are a real bright spot...............

[Never2Yield 1,077]

Golf, do you know and the other mods what's going on in the program?

I don't think anyone in the know will speak. Perhaps it's best they don't. If there are major issues, clean house and start over. We may never recover, but it's a risk that may need to happen to have future sustainable success.

Gus has had one bad year of O in his college career. It sucked, but it is fixable. Mushamp's struggle was not with scheme, but with talent. I believe he see's that it will be a few recruiting class fix. He may not want to wait that long. Ellis Johnson recruited poorly for Muschamp's system. Heck, Ellis Johnson recruited poorly for his system. We will never ever sustain success at Auburn if we jump ship at the first bad season a coach has. Chiz's team quit on him. This team did not quit on Gus. Two very different things.

I agree with you. I'm just saying we need consistency, and it may hurt in the near term to get that.

I don't know about you, but I'm tired of the roller coaster that Auburn is on.

[milehighfan 1,254]

Auburn made CWM the highest paid assistant coach in the country and now this. How many times did I have to read I am in this for the long haul. If you are going wma hurry up and haul a$$ and take J. Jacobs with you. Hopefully, this will be the biggest thing I have to worry about the rest of my life.

[gctiger 991]

Sure is a lot of noise this afternoon about Muschamp not returning to Auburn regardless. He'll be at UGA as DC or the S. Carolina head coach according to these reports on Twitter and Kevin Scarbinsky (who also says bammer is a possible destination).

I still don't think I believe he'll leave for another coordinator position, but if he does he's dead to me. It's a slap in the face to Auburn fans to leave for a lateral position at one of our two biggest rivals.

I have no way of knowing this, but if he leaves for a coordinator position or less I have to believe he is not a fan of the way Gus is handling business.

He is all business and Gus is more like Mrs. Doubtfire on the sidelines with his demeanor.

Why does it have to be Gus? And Will's pedigree as a HC or Coordinator is no better than Gus in any fashion. Maybe Gus wanted a commitment from Will not to seek these opportunities so soon hence why he may not come back regardless. It's amazing how quick the torch and pitchfork crowd want to mob Gus and show all this loyalty to a coach who has left AU before for a lateral move. Will did not break the mold on defense, there are several good DC's out there who drive to AU once he leaves....

It was Gus (and JJ) that hired WM fully aware of his past transgressions. They negotiated an open ended contract which was low risk for WM and potentially higher risk for Auburn, but likely had to do that in order to sign him. At this juncture, it appears that it may not have been a wise decision. These things happen sometimes, but someone has to be held accountable.

I was a huge fan of Gus and I still am, but I've been extremely disappointed with the product that he put on the field this season. It's his responsibility as head coach to recruit quality players and develop sufficient depth but that hasn't happened. I'm a second generation Auburn Grad and I still want Gus to be enormously successful but if this mess continues for much longer I will begin voting with my billfold.

[cooltigger21 0]

There's just too many moving parts to get a handle on this. Just have to let it all unfold and see where things stand then.

My personal opinion is that Carolina hires an offensive minded coach and that Wil doesn't make a lateral move anywhere.

[AU64 10,122]

Coaches have been coming and going at Au forever.....sometimes the HC or sometimes coordinators...but the school has not closed and we have not shut down the football program.....and the level of despair from some folks is hard to fathom.

I'm back to my original premise....CWM was a one year plan by Gus to win a championship THIS year. Didn't work .....too bad ...but I doubt Gus expected to have him past this year. If Gus actually believed an ambitious guy like CWM was going to play second fiddle more than a year, he was dreaming IMO.

Get off the ledge folks....we will have a team next season and I predict will have a better record too.

[Farmer Brown 2,464]

I was admonished last night for quoting Travis Haney on what is come to the light today. The way I see it, if Muschamp leaves this soon for a lateral move, then there is, in all probability, trouble between him and Gus or the administration. Could it be related to his melt down on the sidelines in the bammer game?

[Never2Yield 1,077]

Auburn made CWM the highest paid assistant coach in the country and now this. How many times did I have to read I am in this for the long haul. If you are going wma hurry up and haul a$$ and take J. Jacobs with you. Hopefully, this will be the biggest thing I have to worry about the rest of my life.

If so, then the rest of your life would be okay! I take that!

[sogaaufan 27]

If Will takes a coordinators job, I would have to believe that there must be some type of philosophical difference between Gus and Will (not necessarily animosity). He is making great money playing for a coach that leaves him alone to do his thing (as far as we know).

BTW, if TRob leaves for another position job, I would be concerned also.

[autigeremt 7,240]

I was admonished last night for quoting Travis Haney on what is come to the light today. The way I see it, if Muschamp leaves this soon for a lateral move, then there is, in all probability, trouble between him and Gus or the administration. Could it be related to his melt down on the sidelines in the bammer game?

Nope. Gus wasn't upset with Will.

[WarEagle10 77]

I was admonished last night for quoting Travis Haney on what is come to the light today. The way I see it, if Muschamp leaves this soon for a lateral move, then there is, in all probability, trouble between him and Gus or the administration. Could it be related to his melt down on the sidelines in the bammer game?

Everything is pure speculation now. I don't care who it is coming from. That being said, I saw where Will wanted a staff change and that hasn't happened. Looks like it likely won't. Will was not happy about that.

[AU64 10,122]

Sure is a lot of noise this afternoon about Muschamp not returning to Auburn regardless. He'll be at UGA as DC or the S. Carolina head coach according to these reports on Twitter and Kevin Scarbinsky (who also says bammer is a possible destination).

I still don't think I believe he'll leave for another coordinator position, but if he does he's dead to me. It's a slap in the face to Auburn fans to leave for a lateral position at one of our two biggest rivals.

I have no way of knowing this, but if he leaves for a coordinator position or less I have to believe he is not a fan of the way Gus is handling business.

He is all business and Gus is more like Mrs. Doubtfire on the sidelines with his demeanor.

Why does it have to be Gus? And Will's pedigree as a HC or Coordinator is no better than Gus in any fashion. Maybe Gus wanted a commitment from Will not to seek these opportunities so soon hence why he may not come back regardless. It's amazing how quick the torch and pitchfork crowd want to mob Gus and show all this loyalty to a coach who has left AU before for a lateral move. Will did not break the mold on defense, there are several good DC's out there who drive to AU once he leaves....

It was Gus (and JJ) that hired WM fully aware of his past transgressions. They negotiated an open ended contract which was low risk for WM and potentially higher risk for Auburn, but likely had to do that in order to sign him. At this juncture, it appears that it may not have been a wise decision. These things happen sometimes, but someone has to be held accountable.

I was a huge fan of Gus and I still am, but I've been extremely disappointed with the product that he put on the field this season. It's his responsibility as head coach to recruit quality players and develop sufficient depth but that hasn't happened. I'm a second generation Auburn Grad and I still want Gus to be enormously successful but if this mess continues for much longer I will begin voting with my billfold.

Afraid I differ here.....CWM being here just one year was always a strong possibility....and Gus was desperate to rebound from 8-5 and win a championship and rolled the dice on CWM. JJ opened the pocketbook to give Gus what he wanted.....what else could he have done? Gus was absolutely begging CWM to take the job....and then we are going to negotiate some tight contract ? get real.

[TitanTiger 21,342]

I was admonished last night for quoting Travis Haney on what is come to the light today. The way I see it, if Muschamp leaves this soon for a lateral move, then there is, in all probability, trouble between him and Gus or the administration. Could it be related to his melt down on the sidelines in the bammer game?

You weren't admonished. Travis Haney's record of unreliable info was.

And from what I'm seeing elsewhere, there isn't a rift between he and Gus.

[Farmer Brown 2,464]

I was admonished last night for quoting Travis Haney on what is come to the light today. The way I see it, if Muschamp leaves this soon for a lateral move, then there is, in all probability, trouble between him and Gus or the administration. Could it be related to his melt down on the sidelines in the bammer game?

I was admonished last night for quoting Travis Haney on what is come to the light today. The way I see it, if Muschamp leaves this soon for a lateral move, then there is, in all probability, trouble between him and Gus or the administration. Could it be related to his melt down on the sidelines in the bammer game?

You weren't admonished. Travis Haney's record of unreliable info was.

And from what I'm seeing elsewhere, there isn't a rift between he and Gus.

Oh. OK.

[thaitopher 807]

Boy this thread blew up. Boom!!!!!

[AU-24 3,130]

For what it means, if anything. Of all the coaches being interviewed by USCe: Four different pictures of Muschamp up on USCe rivals page.

[Farmer Brown 2,464]

Travis Haney might not be reliable on everything, but he was spot on on this. HE didn't say there was a rift between Gus and Will, but that he wouldn't be back regardless. We will see in time. LOL

[Never2Yield 1,077]

Coaches have been coming and going at Au forever.....sometimes the HC or sometimes coordinators...but the school has not closed and we have not shut down the football program.....and the level of despair from some folks is hard to fathom.

I'm back to my original premise....CWM was a one year plan by Gus to win a championship THIS year. Didn't work .....too bad ...but I doubt Gus expected to have him past this year. If Gus actually believed an ambitious guy like CWM was going to play second fiddle more than a year, he was dreaming IMO.

Get off the ledge folks....we will have a team next season and I predict will have a better record too.

Not on the ledge, just tired of the roller coaster.

[War Knight 514]

Not. Going. Anywhere.

[AUIH1 1,515]

I was admonished last night for quoting Travis Haney on what is come to the light today. The way I see it, if Muschamp leaves this soon for a lateral move, then there is, in all probability, trouble between him and Gus or the administration. Could it be related to his melt down on the sidelines in the bammer game?

You weren't admonished. Travis Haney's record of unreliable info was.

And from what I'm seeing elsewhere, there isn't a rift between he and Gus.

I don't believe there is a rift between Muschamp and Gus and I will also be pissed at Muschamp for leaving for a lateral position (uga DC or spuat DC), but should Muschamp take another DC job then I think he will do it because he thinks AU is not in a good position going forward regarding Gus and the AD.

wde

[AUIH1 1,515]

Not. Going. Anywhere.

If he does, will you admit you have no objectivity?

wde

[Farmer Brown 2,464]

I wonder what Will thinks of the playcalling this year? DON"T CRUCIFY ME! Just kidding.