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1 hour ago, W.E.D said:

Hopefully he's much less of a brick than Rodgers.

We're lucky if he's 1/2 the QB. 

I don't think Mikey ever said 10 wins would be the number, just that it was a realistic possibility. Without nix going down, he would have been close to the maximum. 

The 5 game total seems more like an actual prediction than a possible ceiling. 

Thats how I've infered it anyways. 

2 hours ago, Hank2020 said:

True, but each individual player is free to go make their own NIL deal just as other pro players are. Making it semi-pro changes nothing to me. I also don’t see how individual universities will be able to be a part of that.

Except pro players are being paid a market value by their organization with nil also being a market value driven marketing approach. There is no return on investment with the current model of college ball. No college NIL is functioning as a legit marketing format. It's all pay for play in the open. Allstate didn't pay Rodgers/Maholms to play but because they are known marketable people. If you're unable or unwilling to see/understand the difference I cannot help you. 

10 hours ago, Hank2020 said:

if it is truly not sustainable, the prices will move down. Its a market.

Only if this stays as a wild west NCAA bound system. With a true semi pro league, whether college based or not, there is an actual profit to be made from the expenditures. Meaning these levels of pay, as a form of salary, can be economically viable. 

3 hours ago, AUDevil said:

The money required to make this “Wild West” model work every year will make Gus’ buyout look like pocket change.  The most powerful employee in the athletic program is no longer the high paid coach, but whoever can run a successful NIL program capable of extracting tens of millions from boosters each year.

The entire model is unsustainable. The people with the net worth to sustain this aren't sitting on scrooge McDuck vaults, but mainly gaining wealth from assets. These people cannot afford to constantly drop 10+ mil a year for new people while continuing to pay the previous 3-4 classes 10+ mil/year

You're looking at greater than 40million a year to maintain these teams. That's just s***ty business. 

This time either marks the end of major college football and even the blue bloods become G5 talent wise or we see the a break-off from the NCAA to create a college owned semi pro league with salary caps, a draft etc. 

2 hours ago, AuCivilEng1 said:

Unless they play QB for Auburn under Gus😏

What QB to play didn't have arm talent?

1 hour ago, woodford said:

Creating more rules will only hurt everyone who is not a blue blood. A “Wild West” model is the best way to give everyone a chance to win. 
 

Why do you think Saban is crying about NIL? He knows that he will actually have to compete with schools other than Georgia, tOSU, Clemson, LSU, OU, etc. 

No he won't. The blue blood and already big named schools are the same ones who are going to be willing and able to pay the money. 

His measurable ability has never been in doubt it's the decision making that has been most questioned. 

At this level, most every scholarship QB is going to have above average to elite arm tallent. 

A lot of defending Kodi by blaming Gus here. About the only thing the WR group did under Kodi was block well. Even with the simplistic route tree and O, we never heard of a WR having polished fundamentals or technique. Things taught by and expected of the coach. 

Potential =/= being qualified. 

Kodi recruited his ass off. No one disputes that. 

3 hours ago, Sizzle said:

Looks like he’s more qualified than you think if he can make a jump to the NFL that fast

You can't equate his current qualifications to then. That's a false equivalency and irrelevant to the discussion on his initial hiring. 

54 minutes ago, Sizzle said:

Even he wasn’t ready He still brought in the recruits. Which this current staff is struggling to do. Also it’s only so much Kodi could accomplish in an offense ran by Gus

A lot of blame does belong to Gus, but that doesn't change the fact he was wholly unqualified for the position.  

11 minutes ago, Sizzle said:

I remember when we hired him and quite a few fans thought it was a bad hire. Now a few years later he’s coaching in the NFL

I was among those and I still am. 

Kodi should not have been hired at Auburn when he was. Potential aside, at that time he wasn't an SEC position coach and I believe that showed often through his time here. 

That being said, I've always been a Kodi fan and I hope he kills it in the league!

The OL 🤡🤡🤡

8 hours ago, GunsmithAU said:

What happened to Harsin's rule of once you enter, you don't come back?

Why am I being down voted? It's an honest question?

4 hours ago, Hank2020 said:

Did he say that or someone just assumed that?

I could have sworn it was something he said. I'll have to research. 

What happened to Harsin's rule of once you enter, you don't come back?

35 minutes ago, GwillMac6 said:

On one of the AU pay sites this week a Auburn mod basically hinted we would not get a single top ten guy from the state of Alabama this cycle. Just so many ooooofs.

If this alone comes to fruition it almost requires Harsin to have a baller record this hear to keep his job. 

2 hours ago, au302 said:

They probably love their jobs, because like any Civil Service employees, they can coast and not be held accountable. I've seen it first hand that type of environment breeds complacency. Probably why they hate it when strong personality figures like Harsin's or Galloways come in and shake things up. Harsin and football aside, I'm surprised that they've remained on this long. You'd think new Presidents and AD's would want to bring in their own people. 

Galloway isn't a good use here. JP was also a dick, but he was the smile to your face and stab you with the other hand kinda guy. He wasn't loved or well liked by the staff or players. 

Galloway on the other hand was just an outward a**hole to all, a little more hard-nosed.  

1 hour ago, Gowebb11 said:

McDonald, Calzada, Asante, James, Jones, and Joseph were all starters at their previous schools so we did add experience at various positions. The majority of the 19 who left were minimal contributors. 

He didn't start, but was a backup. He may have been the one who started, but the starter was injured, otherwise ZC doesn't play.

Asante and Jones didn't started, but played. 

Nit-picky, but an important distinction based on your argument 

2 minutes ago, W.E.D said:

Their o/u is 6.  They aren't the LSU of old. They are depleted and have lost a ton of talent.

New coach, New scheme, New philosophy, etc.  They are the big bad LSU of the last 20 years.

They aren't going to be good.

I didn't say they would be good just that they would be better than us. 

4 hours ago, W.E.D said:

Yes, we're at home.  LSU lost an absolute ton of talent.  I'm pretty sure they had double digit players drafted and also a ton of kids transfer.

Bad team vs bad team....I'm going with home being a slight favorite

 LSU has also out recruited Auburn. A huge coaching upgrade with great tallent already in campus. Even in Jordan-Hare, they probably have the nod. 

1 hour ago, e808 said:

Regarding ZC I am not sure how good or bad he is. Thing that has to be taken into account is that he wasn’t the starter for TAMU and there was a reason for that. So was the oline the issue or the QB. Did King do something better that would have made the oline and WR look better. To many questions u could ask. It’s kind of similar to Bo and TJ . The oline wasn’t stellar but Bo could do things to mask some of the issues.

Bo was able to both mask some issues as well as just be a much better QB than TJ. 

2 hours ago, Hay Field 101 said:

Ok then Basket Weaving. You should have the attitude and perception that you are going to win every basket weaving contest that you are in. How's that? 

Plus quit living your underdog dream movie scenario. 

A can do attitude is the least of Auburn's worries. There are major deficiencies and talent gaps. No amount of this magical I believe changes that. 

So yes it will 100% be a steal for Auburn to beat TAMU, UGA, Bama. It'll be an upset to beat ole miss and probably ark. 

1 hour ago, Hay Field 101 said:

I know that I will draw some heat for this I don't care. I thank God that you guys are not my coach. My attitude is We Can Win Every Damn One Of Them. The only thing stopping us from doing that is Us. Can you imagine a coach saying hey " We might could win this one or that one " especially at Auburn? Now for the " hey Its reality, join the real world, you are in a pipe dream" type of guy I beat you to it. Damn it stop selling yourself and this team short.  

Good thing we aren't coaches 🤷🏼‍♂️

On 5/2/2022 at 11:24 AM, Win4AU said:

Isn’t this what everyone complained about with Gus?  Hopefully Auburn gives Harsin enough time to bring in players and build a team (3 seasons) before they try to pull the rug out and start over.  

The 3 year standard is dead. With NIL and a free for all on transfers, a coach can completely overhaul a team within 2 years. If you don't have positive indicators in the final bit of season 2 you're too late. 

Instead of talking s*** to Mikey, how about you instead refute any of the points he has brought up? Give him some glimmer of hope. 

If you can't do that, is he really wrong in anything being said?