ThurstontheWelshCorgi

Naw you seem to make good sound arguments often around here. It's been a tumultuous two years for us all specific to AU football and I've lashed out a ton but we will get the ball rolling in our favor again soon enough. Good luck in litigating. War eagle!

Hope so. I just want to be rolling toomers corner w my kids a few more times then we got too last season. I'm excited for the incoming qb (or possibly d davis). javarris Johnson was a bright spot also at wr. We've got the defensive side of things on point for the most part.

Thank you sir and yeah I'm definitely not well versed in offensive schematics but I appreciate your response and agree with a lot you have said.

Well first off I said this can be a slightly better than average offensive scheme if we get a phenomenal gun slinger and a stout o-line but that it would not be prolific because it is a pedestrian offense. Is it Bobo's is it harsin's scheme idk I assumed it was Bobo's and hoped Harsin would have something more dynamic for us in 2022. There is nothing unique about this offense, it's a prostyle offense that doesn't cater to our teams roster whatsoever. It's Bobo at Georgia 2.0 Are there route trees yes, are there two tight end sets, yep. Big deal. We are not built for pro style play and won't be in the next two years so I'd rather see us with a different scheme. Now, for the sake of intellectual honesty, I've stated in another thread that I don't know who or what that looks like but for me, watching this team get shut down on offense for much of the year I have concluded that is a basic pedestrian offense and that is why you saw the OC get fired. On to 2022 and what is hopefully a different offensive scheme.

Haha you're hilarious man. I'll see you and those fabulous route trees this time next year. Have a good 2022 Didba

Dude we finished 68th in offense this year. Is there anything more to be said after that stat? No, no there's nothing more to be said.

What? How do we know we had players missing practice prior to a coach being let go end of year.. If we know that then yeah we had a culture issue if not then we had a team that was deflated, conflicted and reeling with apathy after the fact which seems more likely to me which isn't indicative of some long standing systemic culture issue. This isn't some gus apologist angle I am just asking questions and stating my opinion because I hadn't heard of nor did I see some big culture issue within the football team itself during the main portion of the season last year.

Hmm, I hadn't heard that. Good to know. Last I heard was Bigsby missing our first two bowl practices but I assume that was for a reason that was on the up and up.

One of the greater mysteries of life remains, somewhere out there in the dark and foggy aether, that is the mystery of just who Mr jt_flo actually is.

True but was culture and attitude our problem at auburn to begin with? I don't think it was one of the top 3 issues. Pittman has done a great job for sure.

100 percent. And yet we have folks saying if we just get a phenomenal o-line it will suddenly be a "prolific" offense. It will not be that. Sure, if we get a powerhouse o line and a gun slinging bad ass qb we will have a better than average offense but the scheme and play calling was very pedestrian imo.

Only if the games are played at college town universities and not these big soulless neutral sites like Atlanta and Glendale .. That's the only way I could get excited about it

Personally I don't view it as gimmicky. To me it's like a more evolved version of Bobby petrinos offense. Honestly Josh heupel has done a phenomenal job year one at UT especially given how uncertain of a hire he was and really didn't come in with much wind behind the sails. Ive watched them rush the ball for big #'s and throw for big #'s.. Guy seems like a legit coach for them and it's about time.

Haha that is genuinely funny

Could have more do to w Mason than Harsin but it's good all the way around.

It would help a lot if we had a different offensive scheme IMO -- I harken back to when bilema was at Arkansas and he went balls to the wall recruiting the biggest nastiest linemen he could and they couldn't do squat.. Now they didn't have a top receiver and there scheme was worse than ours, sure but I don't foresee us ever getting the chance to build this amazing oline and wr corp at auburn in the next two years. We have to compensate with a highly dynamic offensive coordinator and I don't know who or what that looks like right now.

Agreed.

Because the offensive scheme is not dynamic at all. It's very vanilla and in line with what Bobo has done for years so presumably that and the fact that there is so much film out there regarding bobo's tendencies with such a scheme that makes it easier to coach against. Sure, a top flight tall wr and a bigger stronger o line would help, some.

Fwiw we did get a lucky personal foul call on Houston for the Tony Fair offensive linemen call late in the 4th but that intentional grounding no call was egregious

I never thought we looked like a jv squad although I definitely despised Chad Morris' bubble screen offense which ironically so many were dying for him to be our head coach a few years prior. However this is what I'm talking about with unrealistic expectations at auburn. Bama and Georgia are two programs who are going to have years where they make you look far less capable because they are that loaded. I fully expect this to be the case with Harsin too unfortunately. The issue with Malzahn wasn't losing to those teams, it was losses in the post season, at Florida and at home to Tennessee and on the road at LSU that significantly hurt him in my opinion.

Haven't heard that but it would be a surprise to me if that was true. Bo went to Seth first, always.. To the point that it was like.. Hey bo, stop looking for seth every single pass play. I'd be surprised if he left because of that and would view it as rather weak if true.

The issue I see with the auburn fan base is unrealistic expectations. The sec west is a nightmare so if you have three or four seasons of 4 losses give or take followed by one season of a sec championship run all the while bringing in.. Say top 12 recruiting classes that give you a chance to pop once every four years in this division then you thank your lucky stars otherwise if you don't have a boss of a coach lined up to replace (which we obviously didn't though we got the best we could and we'll wait and see) then you risk a Tennessee death spiral which is what we are trending towards. Gus really needed to win some more of his bowl games, that was a big downer for him but I don't buy the medeocrity talk or that he was okay w medeocricy.

That is true. While the referring has been rough for a lot of games this year, we definitely got a huge call w the Georgia state final drive.

The post Wooten 4th qtr interception w zero points was a bit ridiculous. I loved the first play call going deep but then after that it was nothing. That was a huge missed opportunity in that game.

Having listened to his podcast he seems like an utterly irascible butt head of a pompous coach to coach alongside. It's one thing if your belichek it's another if you're Tony Franklin but touche