Mouthpiece penalty?

[WarTim 3,463]

I see QBs every week with their mouthpiece stuck in their helments. Seems I remember we got a penalty a few years back for this. Anyone know the rule?

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[aucanucktiger 1,820]

Was it in our player's helmet during play?

The one jumping out at me these days is the pants (and kneepads) illegally above the knee. It was a point of emphasis in college about a decade ago and that year one of our receivers got a penalty for it at a very bad time of a game. Wish I could remember who and what game but it either impacted an eventual loss for us or made it scary close. I can see kickers getting a longer leash but it's all over the place in the college game these days.

Rules are rules, I reffed high school and college (MEAC) football for 20 years, but broadly letting that safety one go is a head scratcher IMO.

[wdefromtx 3,317]

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/rules/fielddiagrams/football.pdf

Check pages FR-33 to 34.

It's required, but probably not consistently enforced.

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[AUcivE09 582]

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^^^^That made me laugh. I appreciate the odd fact!

[WarTiger 3,987]

I see QBs every week with their mouthpiece stuck in their helments. Seems I remember we got a penalty a few years back for this. Anyone know the rule?

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Here's a list of required equipment

Mandatory Equipment

ARTICLE 3. All players must wear the following mandatory equipment:

a. Helmet.

b. Hip pads.

c. Jersey.

d. Knee pads.

e. Mouthpiece.

f. Pants.

g. Shoulder pads.

h. Socks.

i. Thigh guards.

Was it in our player's helmet during play?

The one jumping out at me these days is the pants (and kneepads) illegally above the knee. It was a point of emphasis in college about a decade ago and that year one of our receivers got a penalty for it at a very bad time of a game. Wish I could remember who and what game but it either impacted an eventual loss for us or made it scary close. I can see kickers getting a longer leash but it's all over the place in the college game these days.

Rules are rules, I reffed high school and college (MEAC) football for 20 years, but broadly letting that safety one go is a head scratcher IMO.

Frazier rarely if ever puts in his mouthpiece. He leaves it stuck in his helmet most all the time. It's supposed to be mandatory equipment and its also a safety issue. Why anybody wouldn't want to wear one is beyond me. Why the officials don't enforce it is beyond me.

As far as the pants go. Knee pads are required, and they must be covered by the pants, but there is no requirement they cover the knees. Pretty stupid, IMO. It's simply recommended that they cover the knees. Here's the rule as its written.

Specifications: Mandatory Equipment

ARTICLE 4. a. Helmets. 1. The helmet must be fitted with a facemask and

a secured four- or six-point chin strap, all points of which must be secured

whenever the ball is in play.

2. Helmets for all players of a team must be of the same color and design.

3. Helmets must carry a warning label regarding the risk of injury

and a manufacturer’s or reconditioner’s certification indicating

satisfaction of National Operating Committee on Standards for Athletic

Equipment (NOCSAE) test standards. Reconditioned helmets shall show

recertification to indicate satisfaction with the NOCSAE test standard.

b. Hip Pads. Hip pads must include a tailbone protector.

c. Jersey. 1. Design. The jersey must have sleeves that completely cover the

shoulder pads. It must not be altered or designed to tear. It must conform

with Rules 1-4-5 and paragraph 3 below. The jersey must be full-length and

tucked into the pants. Vests and/or a second jersey worn concurrently during

the game are prohibited.

2. Color. See Rule 1-4-5 for specifications regarding colors of jerseys.

3. Numerals. The jersey must have clearly visible, permanent Arabic

numerals measuring at least 8 and 10 inches in height front and back,

respectively, of a color(s) in distinct contrast with the jersey. All players

of a team shall have the same color and style numbers front and back.

The individual bars must be approximately 1-1/2 inches wide. Numbers

on any part of the uniform shall correspond with the mandatory front and

back jersey numbers.

d. Knee Pads. Knee pads must be at least 1/2-inch thick and must be covered

by pants. It is strongly recommended that they cover the knees. No pads or

protective equipment may be worn outside the pants.

e. Mouthpiece. The mouthpiece must be an intra-oral device of any readily

visible color. It must not be white or transparent. It must be made with

FDA-approved base materials (FDCS) and cover all upper teeth. It is

recommended that the mouthpiece be properly fitted.

f. Pants. Players of a team must wear pants of the same color and design.

g. Shoulder pads. There are no specifications for shoulder pads. (See Appendix

E)

h. Socks. Players of a team must wear socks or leg coverings that are identical

in color and design (Exceptions: Unaltered knee braces, tape or a bandage

to protect or prevent an injury, and barefoot kickers).

i. Thigh guards. There are no specifications for thigh guards. (See Appendix

E)

[AuburnGrad97 37]

Moseley keeps his in his helmet for the majority of the time, too. I can see why QB's don't like them, but as much as our QB's are getting sacked this year, I would think they would wear them 24/7.

[AUArchitect 0]

doesn't say they have to wear it properly. just wear it. which I guess counts if you have it stuck in your facemask.

[rtftiger 40]

I believe that I remember Dameyune Craig getting penalized for this very thing in the mid-90's.

[WarTiger 3,987]

doesn't say they have to wear it properly. just wear it. which I guess counts if you have it stuck in your facemask.

Actually it does in the approved ruling section of the rule book. Here's the play situation.

After the ball is ready for play, an official identifies a player(s) who is

obviously not wearing a mouthpiece. RULING: Even though the snap

or free kick may be imminent, a timeout is charged to that player’s

team (Rule 3-3-6). If timeouts are exhausted, a five-yard penalty will

be assessed (Rule 3-4-2-. The clock will start on the snap after the

five-yard penalty unless an unfair timing advantage is possible (Rule

3-4-3). The player(s) may remain in the game if he (they) produces a

legal mouthpiece and the game is not further delayed by that action.

[NLAuburn 7]

Cam Newton never wore a mouth piece.

[WarTim 3,463]

doesn't say they have to wear it properly. just wear it. which I guess counts if you have it stuck in your facemask.

Actually it does in the approved ruling section of the rule book. Here's the play situation.

After the ball is ready for play, an official identifies a player(s) who is

obviously not wearing a mouthpiece. RULING: Even though the snap

or free kick may be imminent, a timeout is charged to that player’s

team (Rule 3-3-6). If timeouts are exhausted, a five-yard penalty will

be assessed (Rule 3-4-2- . The clock will start on the snap after the

five-yard penalty unless an unfair timing advantage is possible (Rule

3-4-3). The player(s) may remain in the game if he (they) produces a

legal mouthpiece and the game is not further delayed by that action.

Thanks WT. I am looking forward to AU being the ONLY NCAA team to be called for this in 2012! ! !